Dimitri LH
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Black Mage would be so awesome to have....Robin is a awesome mage, but techically he is a Magic swordsman in smash. 
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Smash Wii U & 3DS Downloadable Characters Discussion and Information on Smash Ballot
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Wouldn't Geno technically be under the Mario umbrella?
dangeraaron10
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BRILLIANT
Not one mention of Dragon Quest in that whole post smh
dangeraaron10
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You'll have to forgive my ignorance, never played any of the Dragon Quest games.
Yes, but no.
He is fully owned by SE, even though he only appears in (two) Mario games.
Its a strange situation, like Sora, who is owned by Disney (while all the other original KH characters are owned by SE)
I know that, but would he have the Mario symbol if SE let him be in Smash?
Well, I think he would get a unique SE symbol.
Mostly because if anything related to SE but is not related to SMRPG comes with him, those would have no symbol to use
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Now that I think about it, Chocobo makes a decent SE rep too.
UglyRareCharacter
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Not a big fan of *insert company here* Reps because this is not 'Videogames All-Stars,' it's Nintendo's All-Stars.
The series is considered one of the first console RPGs and laid the foundations for JRPGs in general, including Final Fantasy. Unfortunately the name doesn't have quite the impact it should have in the West (in America it was known as Dragon Warrior until 2005 and Europe didn't get the series until DQVIII!) but if Smash is a celebration of videogames history (Ryu and the fighting Mii costumes certainly presented it as such) then Dragon Quest certainly should be considered along side Final Fantasy.
And in some ways it's even closer to Nintendo than Final Fantasy having had the last two mainline games (IX and X) made for Nintendo systems and the only two in the whole series that weren't (VII and VIII) have now been ported to 3DS.
Masked Man
I said wow
As much as I love the Chorus Kids, Tebiri would be pretty damned adorable. I think he might also allow for a moveset that represents the entire franchise, whereas the Chorus Kids only really have their minigame (and perhaps Night Walk). That said, feel free to prove me wrong, Sakurai!
Reminder that Chorus Kids could have been amazing
THEY ARE TOO CUTE.
Guy: "You wanna play ping-pong? I dunno... I don't think you're cut out for it. (You're a little short...)"
Chorus Kids: *snip snip*
Caption: That still didn't solve the problem.
Waluigilicious
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So... Bomberman is far and away my most wanted character and I actually don't have a second most wanted. Yeah I'd like Paper Mario and Waluigi but I'm not too fussed. But.. this week I started playing Kirby and the Rainbow Paintbrush and HOLY GOD. HOLY MOTHER GOD.
We need a DLC pack from this game. The charm. The levels. The music.
What we need:
Waddle Dee as the playable character. A very unique spear based moveset. Unique jumping ability (he can still jump after a few jumps but they get lower rather than higher) and nicely gives the Kirby series 4 characters.
A Rainbow Paintbrush stage. There is so much potential. They could go with anything from the game. Maybe even rainbow lines being drawn that you can dash faster on like in the multiplayer. Maybe the clouds in the sky level that disappear when you jump on them.
Music. 7 songs from the game. 5 brand new songs and 2 remixes from the older game is what I need.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DPGcmmtnpM0
Just listen to the whole thing.
This is now my most wanted thing after Bomberman. Can anyone have played this game and not want this?!
We need a DLC pack from this game. The charm. The levels. The music.
What we need:
Waddle Dee as the playable character. A very unique spear based moveset. Unique jumping ability (he can still jump after a few jumps but they get lower rather than higher) and nicely gives the Kirby series 4 characters.
A Rainbow Paintbrush stage. There is so much potential. They could go with anything from the game. Maybe even rainbow lines being drawn that you can dash faster on like in the multiplayer. Maybe the clouds in the sky level that disappear when you jump on them.
Music. 7 songs from the game. 5 brand new songs and 2 remixes from the older game is what I need.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DPGcmmtnpM0
Just listen to the whole thing.
This is now my most wanted thing after Bomberman. Can anyone have played this game and not want this?!
Masked Man
I said wow
Nocturnowl
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Knew it had to be Great Cave Escape before clicking, it's the standout track of Rainbow Curse/Paintbrush.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
balladofwindfishes
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Square and Nintendo actually seem to have a decent relationship, so it's not out of the question to have a Square Rep. They've made a handful of games together recently and Nintendo still pretty much gets the bulk of Dragon Quest.
Honestly, I think Geno would be a good pick for a SE rep. He could have his own series icon and rep Square entirely, rather than being more Mario based.
Other than that, it'd probably be a Dragon Quest character or monster of some kind. Or maybe even old school Final Fantasy.
Honestly, I think Geno would be a good pick for a SE rep. He could have his own series icon and rep Square entirely, rather than being more Mario based.
Other than that, it'd probably be a Dragon Quest character or monster of some kind. Or maybe even old school Final Fantasy.
I'd love to see a Square rep! Personally, I'd love to see Marina Liteyears or Neku from TWEWY (Lara Croft or Gex would be nice, too, but they're not as relevant to Nintendo, and not as interesting, IMO), but between that being the core part of their relationship with Nintendo and the fact that they picked generic NES FF classes to be in the Mario Basketball Games, I'd either see a Black/White Mage, a Moogle, or a Slime.
I'd want Slime. It could rep the whole DQ series well while still having its own game to pull moves from (the Rocket Slime spin-offs). Plus I'm honestly a huge fan of the Rocket Slime spin-offs and would love to see them get repped.
balladofwindfishes
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Slime would be cool just based on how different his mobility would be.
It would almost be like having Ditto as a character.
It would almost be like having Ditto as a character.
I'd love to see *anyone* from dragon quest tbh!
I'd die if we got Terry with a slime that acted like a midpoint between rosalina and olimar! :3
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IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Could anyone explain me why Mewtwo is right before Pikachu in Smash Bros 3DS' All-Star mode?
I thought it would be like this, Pikachu > Charizard > Jigglypuff > Mewtwo.
I thought it would be like this, Pikachu > Charizard > Jigglypuff > Mewtwo.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
How so? I don't see any optimism about it other than repeat the information that we already know.
balladofwindfishes
Member
This isn't quite what was said
The actual text said
The tone is different. In the first, it's saying they'll just keep making characters until the team disbands. On the second, proper, translation, he's actually saying they can't really make characters forever, so only expect a few more.
They're all from the same game, during the same fight, so I guess order never really mattered to them there.
I think I figured out how All-Star could work as DLC causes the mode to become a marathon, by the way: Keep each character organized in chronological order, give each character a "home stage" like in Melee, remove characters until there're only 50 of them, and then divide those 50 characters between 7 fights (6 fights with 7 opponents, with 8 for the last) while keeping them in chronological order. Each fight will take place on one of the 7-8 characters' home stage. For people that don't have any DLC, maybe they can update it so that 3 default Mii Fighters are added to the rotation, too?
balladofwindfishes
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Not for Smash 4, but for Smash 5, if the roster is like 65 fighters, I could see All Star being set up more like 100 man Smash, rather than a stage system.
Only on Battlefield, enemies spawn in chronological order, have higher knockback (scales with difficulty), and it's more of an endurance thing. 50% through a Max Tomato spawns or something.
Only on Battlefield, enemies spawn in chronological order, have higher knockback (scales with difficulty), and it's more of an endurance thing. 50% through a Max Tomato spawns or something.
UglyRareCharacter
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Better yet, make it like one of those Melee "All-Star" event matches where you fight however many foes per stage, then the stage just fades to the next one. No tedious rest stage or anything except a healing item maybe between rounds.
balladofwindfishes
Member
The knockback and AI scales with the number of characters in the round.
DLC actually made hard All Star way easier because the round with Lucas and Roy the CPUs are set to like level 3 and die in two Smash attacks. Ryu, bless his soul, made a round that was annoying with projectiles everywhere into something more manageable because he breaks up the onslaught of projectiles between Link, Zelda, Samus, ROB and Duck Hunt. Holy god that round is annoying, Ryu at least makes their AI go down and they die way faster.
It made 2002-2006 have idiotic AI, no matter the setting. It's almost funny. I was in Hard and Alph just stood and stared at me while I charged a Roy netural B into his face. And this was Hard mode lol.
Sadly this means the last round is tough as nails because it has the least amount of fighters in it and they're all spammy garbage characters, two of which have OHKOs and know how to use them (Game and Watch spams Judge like nobody's business and Little Mac can get scary with KO Punch). Thank GOD for the ceiling on Luigi's Mansion. Got KO Punched and hit the ceiling with hilarious force, and I teched on the way down and ended up saving the run. We need an ancient arcade hero to come and make the last stage better.
DLC actually made hard All Star way easier because the round with Lucas and Roy the CPUs are set to like level 3 and die in two Smash attacks. Ryu, bless his soul, made a round that was annoying with projectiles everywhere into something more manageable because he breaks up the onslaught of projectiles between Link, Zelda, Samus, ROB and Duck Hunt. Holy god that round is annoying, Ryu at least makes their AI go down and they die way faster.
It made 2002-2006 have idiotic AI, no matter the setting. It's almost funny. I was in Hard and Alph just stood and stared at me while I charged a Roy netural B into his face. And this was Hard mode lol.
Sadly this means the last round is tough as nails because it has the least amount of fighters in it and they're all spammy garbage characters, two of which have OHKOs and know how to use them (Game and Watch spams Judge like nobody's business and Little Mac can get scary with KO Punch). Thank GOD for the ceiling on Luigi's Mansion. Got KO Punched and hit the ceiling with hilarious force, and I teched on the way down and ended up saving the run. We need an ancient arcade hero to come and make the last stage better.
balladofwindfishes
Member
tbh, I think Jr is the best rep for the Donkey Kong series, because the classic arcade games are only repped by two items and the worst level in the entire series.
DKC has more than enough representation in Smash, compared to Arcade DK.
UglyRareCharacter
Member
I think 75m and those stupid spring items are enough reason to not want anything more from the arcade DKs.
Also Ryu shows up between Pit and Palutena and Megaman, not Link and Zelda IIRC
Also Ryu shows up between Pit and Palutena and Megaman, not Link and Zelda IIRC
balladofwindfishes
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Shamrock7r
Member
wrong thread
I think it's about what people want to see, though. Even if DK Jr.'s the best rep for Arcade DK, I don't think anyone's clamoring for another rep from that era, barring maybe a stage. It may be iconic, but there's not much they can do with it. Character-wise, there were only 5 people in that trilogy, and only Mario and DK did anything of merit while managing to remain popular to this day. DK Jr. could work as a retro rep, but people aren't chomping at the bits for his return. With DKC, however, people really want to see K. Rool. If it's what the people want, then I say it's the best fit.
balladofwindfishes
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I just generally feel series in Smash are best represented when the widest scope of their history is repped in characters.
Fire Emblem, for example, is excellent for this.
Fire Emblem, for example, is excellent for this.
Gonzo The Great
Banned
A stage and an item isn't enough? Not every game needs a character "rep". Characters should get in based on their own merits, and Donkey Kong Jr. has the following:
balladofwindfishes
Member
- Direct sequel to the game that created DK and Mario, and the only game ever where Mario is a villain
- Inspiration for Diddy Kong and Donkey Kong's side kick before Rare took over
- Has appeared in Mario spin offs before Diddy Kong started appearing everywhere, including a trophy in Melee
- Has appeared in a lot of games before Rare took over and even a few afterwards like Game and Watch Gallery.
DK Jr is one of those characters I feel is right up Sakurai's alley. He's just retro and obscure enough without being completely unknown.
Counting Spin Offs (for both characters), he actually has roughly the same number of games K Rool has, if not slightly more.
Damn I've been wanting DK.Jr since I was ten and mistakenly thought a screenshot of his trophy in Melee confirmed he was playable. Count me in as supporter!
I've never thought of him representing the classic DK games. That's a pretty neat idea. I used to be addicted to this little relic from the past
I've never thought of him representing the classic DK games. That's a pretty neat idea. I used to be addicted to this little relic from the past
balladofwindfishes
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Damn I've been wanting DK.Jr since I was ten and mistakenly thought a screenshot of his trophy in Melee confirmed he was playable. Count me in as supporter!
I've never thought of him representing the classic DK games. That's a pretty neat idea. I used to be addicted to this little relic from the past
This box is using Smash 64 art lol
Oh wow you're right. It's destiny!
UglyRareCharacter
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Thank god DKJr doesn't get votes and Sakurai counts DK as a partial arcade rep or else we might actually get him 0.0 The arcade games are timeless and all but also kind of distant from the richer DKC universe that should get more content.
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