diffusionx
Gold Member
My guess, this was a cheapie port and they didn't want to redo and rework lots of stuff if they had to, when they spent a very long time doing that for PS4.
So the Hogwarts Legacy devs lied about using next gen assets on Switch 2...
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Dorfdad
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Even more weird is I'm enjoying it. I have it in pc and ps5 now switch 2 and I'm further along in switch 2 version than I have been on any other platform. /smh maybe in the problem. You pixel counters and asset watchers just ruin gaming. If it looks good and plays fine why do you care if another platform plays or looks better?
LordOcidax
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Not the devs fault. They can only do so much on underpowered consoles.
Deerock71
Very Poor Hoice of Wor
We've already got Madden, Call of Duty, and that new Bond game confirmed, but who's counting those, right?
Raven117
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Lol. Go touch some grass dude. You need a break
LordOcidax
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I know. That's a "temporary" goald.
LordOcidax
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We have people here saying that this asset looks closer to the PS4 PRO version, that's telling…
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diffusionx
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That seems incorrect. Don't focus on the texture, focus on the polygonal details around the edges, Switch 2 seems clearly cloer to PS4 than it does Series S.We have people here saying that this asset looks closer to the PS4 version, that's telling…
As to the texture, it may just be the PS4's shitty mip mapping and anistropic filtering, which was always a problem on the system.
I get taht DF shit is annoying but a bad port is a bad port. It doesn't mean you won't enjoy it.
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LordOcidax
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Devs said, SOME next gen assets…
that's what we are getting.
MDSLKTR
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My guess is the locked 30fps battles in world tour.
Mr Moose
Member
Wait, why are people thinking it won't have 3rd party support? It would be silly not to.
PS4 is still being supported and that's 12 years old.
Series S is being supported by 3rd party.
LordOcidax
Member
They have a whole thread about that…
RoboFu
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We have people here saying that this asset looks closer to the PS4 PRO version, that's telling…
you can look at the ring below the lid and see which is the same and which is different. the ps4 pro version just has too soft an image to see the top correctly.
thatJohann
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I've played this game on PS5 Pro, Switch and now Switch 2. I think it looks great on the Switch 2, pristine image quality, no jaggies and runs great. No complaints here.
bender
What time is it?
Yes. Complaining is the only game they are good at.
DeepEnigma
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/all threads
MatrixReloaded101
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Lol I can't imagine why anyone that owns other consoles or a PC would even want to play 3rd party games on the switch in the first place besides the portability.
The main benefit of the switch is that it is portable, your sacrificing specs in order to play games on the go so its weird to me to see people get caught up in specs for a device that isn't designed for that.
I do think as time goes on games will perform better has devs get more used to the switch 2. But if your looking for handhelds with better specs there are tons of PC handheld options now.
Kataploom
Gold Member
WTF? If anything I can see devs begging Nintendo for a dev kit already lol.
You know the Switch 2 is, aside PC, the most commercially promising gaming platform for the next few years? There's no way in hell publishers have no interest on porting to Switch 2, why in the universe would you think there's no interest in developing games for it? It's absolutely out of any sense to think like that, it's like saying people have no interest in appearing on YouTube based on whatever lmao.
BTW this game is probably not the best example for Switch 2 capabilities alone, it can potentially reflect that but then you have way better examples like CP2077 and SF6. So far, Switch 2 seems to be between PS4 and XSS in everything, closer to the later since 8th gen consoles can't even touch 9th gen consoles in terms of CPU and IO and Switch 2 has that plus AI features to pale the need for accessing them.
Not sure if I'm on spot on this, but it seems like Switch 2 strengths are in part thanks to Nvidia tools, that are basically better suited for what XS/PS5 wanted to achieve regarding I/O and GPU decompression, everything we've seen points out to Switch 2 dev environment being way dev friendlier for modern development than XS/PS5. That how would I know? I don't, but I've had that perception after all these months analyzing the console, Nintendo patents, public statements, actual games, etc.
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SILKYSMOOTH30FPS
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Mobile hardware meant to be played in a bus. This is normal, and will only get worse.
MayauMiao
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Specifically, I'm talking about this video
There they said they are using the next gen assets (next gen means current gen obviously) on the Switch 2 instead of starting from the Switch 1 version.
But if you analyse the final game, you will find out it pretty much uses the last gen assets across the board. In this comparison, you can see how many assets are missing (which is an exact match for the last gen version)
This is just a tiny example, there are differences like that across the whole game. DF made a good comparison there. There are not only assets removed, but some are swapped out for a low polygon version (like using the angular table instead of a round one, which I find to be a very clever trick for reducing stress on last gen consoles)
You can also see some last gen optimizations (like sealing rooms off from the world) are also in place on Switch 2, despite the system having much more RAM, much faster storage and a lot more CPU grunt than the last gen consoles.
Now obviously Switch 2 is not as powerful as Series S, but given the statements they made I would have expected atleast some current gen assets to be carried over andI would also have expected them to remove the last gen optimizations like the sealed gangways (which are obviously in place because of the slow HDDs in these consoles).
But what irks me the most is the blatant lie from the devs. No, you are not using "next gen assets", this is just deceptive marketing.
The backlash from this will be...crickets. The vast majority simply do not care such minute detail.
Baemono
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Don't bother, he repeats the same old stuff in every thread, even when there is no link whatsoever to the Switch
Kataploom
Gold Member
I think it is... but just like the XSS asset lol
Mozza
Member
They never had a problem with the Steam Deck as it's pretty niche sales wise. Which is also why they liked the Wii U and GameCube.They didn't have that problem with the Steamdeck… The problem is because Nintendo.
diffusionx
Gold Member
I don't think that's the case though, maybe a couple things here and there but this seems clearly to be the PS4 version ported.Devs said, SOME next gen assets…
Which is unfortunate.
YeulEmeralda
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kevboard
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it's very clear that most devs used the PS4 version as the basis for their ports, and then improve elements where possible due to the better memory and better CPU.
Fortnite, Hogwarts, Street Fighter 6. they are all essentially the PS4 versions with slight enhancements. which makes total sense as the Switch 2 is essentially a PS4 Plus or PS4 Pro Minus... depending on how you wanna look at it, in terms of raw GPU power.
Fortnite, Hogwarts, Street Fighter 6. they are all essentially the PS4 versions with slight enhancements. which makes total sense as the Switch 2 is essentially a PS4 Plus or PS4 Pro Minus... depending on how you wanna look at it, in terms of raw GPU power.
Raven117
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The Horror. The Horror.We have people here saying that this asset looks closer to the PS4 PRO version, that's telling…
Mr Moose
Member
Still a lot better than the OG Switch version, though.
Roman Empire
Member
I see the Switch ports like this. Be happy it happened at all and don't expect to play it at the best quality in the market. the advantage of Switch 2 is being a resonably powerful console while being handheld.
Dorfdad
Gold Member
Exactly im not saying its the best way to play a game we have choices, but man its tiring trying to enjoy a game and having all the forums shit on games because they dont consitently 1 up every thing. Switch 2 is a fantastic system and Hogwarts plays great. Maybe we can get some more patches. On Steamdeck its horrible cant play that at all on switch 2 its very playable and looks great!They didn't have that problem with the Steamdeck… The problem is because Nintendo.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
Did DF lied too?
Darkness_Arises
Member
I have a non-OLED steam deck and hogwarts legacy runs fine on it. It also uses only next gen assets.
kevboard
Member
huh? DF showcased that basically 99% of the game used PS4 assets, with only some minor adjustments here and there, like how one of the walkways now had open windows. but even there it wasn't using PS5 assets but a modified version of what the PS4 uses, as the area that's now visible due to that change still using PS4 assets, as shown by clipping the camera through the wall on PS4
balls of snow
Member
You know for the low wattage I was willing to overlook a lot even basic ps4 textures is ok. But Ninty saddle the Switch 2 with underwhelming battery as well. Jokers.