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supermackem
Banned
I think they have fucked up the pro thing in the uk store, i clicked on it in the plus section it didnt download anything then when i go online in socom it says i dont have access to the content when i click on the custom playlist.
You know, I only played a little bit of the campaign and it isn't as bad as people made it out to be.
Graphically it's no uncharted or killzone but its doesn't look terrible.
It plays well, I had no technical issues playing it.
Set it to hard mode and it can be challenging. But offers nothing that makes you want to like any of the characters. At least not yet from what I've played. They should stuck with the basic seal outfits for combat in said region and job. Wet suit/camouflage gear/boonie/etc and just your run of the mill soldier doing his duty. We didn't need the welfare version of Nathan Drake and Elena and Co.
It shines in the AI department. They take orders well. They take cover. They provide cover fire and take smart shots. The enemy AI isn't as good but they lay on the suppressive fire enough to make you move to another cover spot of you will die. Fair enough balance there.
Honestly, just on first impressions, I like the Socom 4 campaign more than the Killzone 3 campaign. Primarily in the gameplay not so much the cinematic and story.
Online wise I loved the beta and my I only got to play two online games where in my last one my k/d was 24/23.
I think I found my shooter that is going to hold me down for a long while. I won't even think about Battlefield 3 or Uncharted 3 Multiplayer until I can play them, and I think they are both going to have to earn the right to pull me from socom 4.
I thought the abandoned map was pretty well done too. Collisions still happen and more often than before for me as well in abandoned though.
Score wise I give this game an 8 just on a few hours of play. I'd score it higher but I can't give them kudos for promises. If patches make the game better that's wonderful but I cant give them points for content/fixes that are not on the release disc.
Probably would have been better to release socom 4 closer to E3. June sounds like it would have given Zipper the time they needed to include everything in the release and polish it up a little more.
Oh and what really takes away from the single player experience. Is the lack of voice commands. Ii was using the headset for squad chatter during the campaign. There were times i just did not want to hit the D-Pad and was looking for the push to talk button to give commands and then suddenly remembered there were no voice commands. Which is saddening.
I'm loving it so far though.
Graphically it's no uncharted or killzone but its doesn't look terrible.
It plays well, I had no technical issues playing it.
Set it to hard mode and it can be challenging. But offers nothing that makes you want to like any of the characters. At least not yet from what I've played. They should stuck with the basic seal outfits for combat in said region and job. Wet suit/camouflage gear/boonie/etc and just your run of the mill soldier doing his duty. We didn't need the welfare version of Nathan Drake and Elena and Co.
It shines in the AI department. They take orders well. They take cover. They provide cover fire and take smart shots. The enemy AI isn't as good but they lay on the suppressive fire enough to make you move to another cover spot of you will die. Fair enough balance there.
Honestly, just on first impressions, I like the Socom 4 campaign more than the Killzone 3 campaign. Primarily in the gameplay not so much the cinematic and story.
Online wise I loved the beta and my I only got to play two online games where in my last one my k/d was 24/23.
I think I found my shooter that is going to hold me down for a long while. I won't even think about Battlefield 3 or Uncharted 3 Multiplayer until I can play them, and I think they are both going to have to earn the right to pull me from socom 4.
I thought the abandoned map was pretty well done too. Collisions still happen and more often than before for me as well in abandoned though.
Score wise I give this game an 8 just on a few hours of play. I'd score it higher but I can't give them kudos for promises. If patches make the game better that's wonderful but I cant give them points for content/fixes that are not on the release disc.
Probably would have been better to release socom 4 closer to E3. June sounds like it would have given Zipper the time they needed to include everything in the release and polish it up a little more.
Oh and what really takes away from the single player experience. Is the lack of voice commands. Ii was using the headset for squad chatter during the campaign. There were times i just did not want to hit the D-Pad and was looking for the push to talk button to give commands and then suddenly remembered there were no voice commands. Which is saddening.
I'm loving it so far though.
TrAcEr_x90
Member
it would be awesome if they pulled a MAG and let you download it off psn.
My internet connection has been super shitty this week so I haven't had a chance to jump online yet, but I've got to say I'm actually enjoying single player. I'm on mission 6 right now and my favorite mission so far has been 3, hopefully there's more Forty Five solo stealth missions down the road.
thanks for the invite guys...
and thanks for killing me AJ..i know you reading this.
anyway I f'n love this game so far.
Played SP to chapter 3 with the sharpshooter. takes quite awhile to get used to but fun as hell. Dont know If ill use it for MP though. I need to get way more used to using it before i go anywhere near MP with it.
cant wait to really play some games with you guys.
and thanks for killing me AJ..i know you reading this.
anyway I f'n love this game so far.
Played SP to chapter 3 with the sharpshooter. takes quite awhile to get used to but fun as hell. Dont know If ill use it for MP though. I need to get way more used to using it before i go anywhere near MP with it.
cant wait to really play some games with you guys.
Mattdaddy
Gold Member
Dibbz said:
I bought the game strictly for multiplayer but the SP was good enough to suck me in unexpectedly. I tried it last night for shits while my internet was being janky and I played for about 4 or 5 hours straight.
It is mostly action, but they do break it up with some stealth missions here and there as well. And the type of action varies as well. There are attack & defend type fights, calling in airstrikes and arty, sneaking around fighting smaller squads and trying to blitz through large numbers of guys to beat a clock. It varies pretty well.
You team AI is pretty good in my opinion. They take down bad guys well enough to be useful, but they don't steal the show. They can take enough damage that you don't have to baby sit them but they can die if you get reckless. They use cover and fall back if they are getting pounded.
Enemy AI isn't game changing but it's definitely serviceable. They take cover and will press you in force with grenades. I'm playin on Normal and it's not too hard as long as you stay in cover and use your squad. If you get caught in the open or charge in like a maniac they will cut you down pretty fast. I plan on playing again on hard to check it out.
Like I said I played for about 4 or 5 hours last night and got the feeling I was entering the final "twist" or act, so the total campaign I would guestimate at 6-8 hours. But that is a total guess.
Overall, the SP is much, much better than the reviewers say. I was pleasantly surprised.
ZeroEchoOne
Member
clan invite please:
PSN: surefire1982
don't know if i'll be able to play clan games regularly, but I'll join in and play when i can.
PSN: surefire1982
don't know if i'll be able to play clan games regularly, but I'll join in and play when i can.
Miggytronz
Gold Member
zychi said:
Yeah i didnt get a code either.
Oh I thought you got it at a store and not online. My copy I got from the store had it on the receipt. You may want to call gamestop's customer service and ask about. The code is not linked to pro or in the case so they may email it.zychi said:
Just finished the Leviathan mission and really enjoyed the mission even though it had a lot of scripting. So far single player has been pretty fun. Sometimes the AI seems to get a little crazy on me but overall it has been enjoyable.
Miggytronz
Gold Member
Hmm ima recheck my receipt when i get home.
I just went to my local gamestop and he printed out a receipt for me, it had the code on it. Maybe since I got it from gamestop.com they forgot to include it in the package.
e: and its a shotgun code. anyone need a shotgun code? this is why i hate the exclusive dlc, if you dont get a code you wasted your time and money.
e2 claimed.
e: and its a shotgun code. anyone need a shotgun code? this is why i hate the exclusive dlc, if you dont get a code you wasted your time and money.
e2 claimed.
Miggytronz
Gold Member
Greg said:
W1SSY said:
Thanks guys.
Reckless Onion
Member
How are the preorder shotty's?
I'm hearing they are pretty nasty. Semi auto,crazy range and damage..
Didn't you only get 1 shotty though? so it's the same for both sides or what?
I'm hearing they are pretty nasty. Semi auto,crazy range and damage..
Didn't you only get 1 shotty though? so it's the same for both sides or what?
MP is really fun although I suck big time at it... Modes in competetive MP are really cool and I very much enjoy co-op as well, actually I think it's the best part of the game.
Still find the controls very clunky. I understand it's not a fast game, but at least the game should feel responsive and fluid. Cover mechanism is broken and camera is as well.
Still find the controls very clunky. I understand it's not a fast game, but at least the game should feel responsive and fluid. Cover mechanism is broken and camera is as well.
My code gave me both at the same time. When you enter the code it shows the shotgun and then abandoned. With both being preorder bonuses you shouldn't have only got just the shotgun. Did you accept the thing that pops up and then go to download or just cancel thinking it was only the shotgun?zychi said:
RyanardoDaVinci
Member
I swear, the credits are longer than the actual campaign! 
MustacheBandit_
Member
zipper should have just made this multiplayer only. any low scores from reviews seem to be based off the campain. I haven't touched that yet but the multiplayer is crack! The multi alone should warrant higher scores then it has been getting.
I'm afraid this game was going to get hated on regardless of what they did. Hell, reviewers would dock a few points for not having a campaign if it didn't have one. SOCOM gets no love anymore.KingOfKong said:
I don't even think the campaign is bad at all. In fact, it's really fun but it's harder than most games out there which might be another reason why reviewers didn't like it. Playing it on hard difficulty actually presented me with a challenge unlike most games and it requires you to use your squads to flank.
TheFuryMGS3
Banned
The multi is TRASH, going from confrontation which has a reasonable damage model and better maps, this is so disappointing. I see why it is rated so low, it feels like a cheap knock off that is wearing the socom name. This game feels so much like homefront: ugly, overhyped and filled with so many cut corners.
No Lobby or party system......... WTF
No Bullet penetration.......
Improper reload animations.......
just to name a few of the many problems. Those who say that it will eventually be patched and be better, WTF is wrong with you?!? Shit is shit, it can stink a little less but at the end of the day it is still shit.
I haven't feel this cheated by a purchase in a long while, that is the only thing it will be remembered for.
No Lobby or party system......... WTF
No Bullet penetration.......
Improper reload animations.......
just to name a few of the many problems. Those who say that it will eventually be patched and be better, WTF is wrong with you?!? Shit is shit, it can stink a little less but at the end of the day it is still shit.
I haven't feel this cheated by a purchase in a long while, that is the only thing it will be remembered for.
MustacheBandit_
Member
TheFuryMGS3 said:
glad most of us here seem to disagree with you. maybe you should have played beta because there aren't any surprises from what we saw there. just more great maps.
Syphon Filter
Member
zychi said:
Real socom? It's nothing like the real socom games. No pistols,break,extraction,escort nor demolition. "classic" mode is horrible too since the camera is still bad along with nades,no leaning,etc. It's sad they had to put a separate mode just to hide that they aren't making socom anymore.
I ended up creating my own clan with some buddies and people from my old clan so we can do some clan matches. This game makes clan wars so damn easy since it's a click away compared to the stupid schedule nonsense from S:C that wasn't even ready for a long time at launch.
It's also nice being able to do 4v4's if we want or any other size.
It's also nice being able to do 4v4's if we want or any other size.
Giriath_89
Member
demolitio said:
How many people do you have? Are you all Americans?
Biff
Member
Okay, so Sharpshooter didn't go so well. Had serious problems with the up/down sensitivity. Everytime I would start a match, my guy would face the floor. And during the match, he would aim into the sky. That sharpshooter gets heavy after an hour of use trying to hold it like a real assault rifle XD
The build quality is excellent though, gotta hand it to Sony on that. But yeah, the move detection isn't for me online. I can see myself playing SP with it, as you are a BEAST when you hide behind cover and play the game Time Crisis style.. But online when baddies can flank you, trying to fend for yourself quickly is damn near impossible.
So, I turned off my sharpshooter and went to DS3 + Classic Mode. The way it all started (minus sixaxis but you get what I'm saying).
WOW. WOW WOW WOW. It feels like SOCOM II again! They finally gave us freaking S2 HD! So good, and when you add bomb squad mode into the classic setup.. Awesome!
I cannot believe I'm saying this, but Zipper may have actually gotten this one right...
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The build quality is excellent though, gotta hand it to Sony on that. But yeah, the move detection isn't for me online. I can see myself playing SP with it, as you are a BEAST when you hide behind cover and play the game Time Crisis style.. But online when baddies can flank you, trying to fend for yourself quickly is damn near impossible.
So, I turned off my sharpshooter and went to DS3 + Classic Mode. The way it all started (minus sixaxis but you get what I'm saying).
WOW. WOW WOW WOW. It feels like SOCOM II again! They finally gave us freaking S2 HD! So good, and when you add bomb squad mode into the classic setup.. Awesome!
I cannot believe I'm saying this, but Zipper may have actually gotten this one right...
I'm sure those modes will be released as DLC later. Paid DLC of courseSyphon Filter said:
((andycapps said:
Made that a while ago lol. Been sending out invites every time I log in, as well as everyone in the clan are officers to invite people as well to help out during the times I'm not logged in.
TheFuryMGS3 said:
You're one of the few, like the crazy S2 vets that even if they got S2HD they'd still hate on it. Damage is fine, it varies on the mode you play, and the maps are of equal quality to anything Zipper has done in Socom's past, they're still king of map design.
If you want to hate on reload animations, then go all the way. Basically NO game does them right. Nearly all the games do not model tactical reloads right, thus then they all fail.
Well they all have to be on at the same time to invite but 7 currently with more on the way from my old clan. My coleader was one of the 18 that went to their community day and is one of the most dedicated and nicest guys out there unlike most of socom.com. We have a few others from there that we like and aren't assholes in general. The clan is all about fun in the end, but we want to take clan matches serious. We have some decent people that communicate a lot and then we have some good people who like to dominate everything in sight while I'm in between depending on how much medication I had to take that day...lol.Giriath_89 said:
We're all Americans (N.A. at least) and we plan on building up quite a bit while still being a very tight-knit group. We're small right now since it's new but we're dedicated to making a nice clan with people that play at both day and night. Right now we're still trying to get some nice founding members to help us out and recruit and then have a good time!
Didn't plan on putting this on here but figured since you asked. I just finished the main layout for my forum and just need the guys to register, lol. http://warmongers.forum-motion.com/
well i am really enjoying this game, so far everything is great playing with friends is so much fun....HOWEVER when you play at prime time like NOW, its by far the most annoying thing. every game is 15 of 16 players, FULL when i join, friend cant jump in to join the battle. wasted a good 45 + min trying to play with 1 friend. honestly my single only complaint so far about the game..i cant wait for the patch. PSN is such a garbage piece of shit, compared to XBL im seriously spoiled with live.
Well if you bought it new, you have SOCOM Pro, and new maps/modes will likely be free for your account.ChefRamsay said:I cannot believe I'm saying this, but Zipper may have actually gotten this one right...
I'm sure those modes will be released as DLC later. Paid DLC of course