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Sold my PS4 on eBay to cover my Pro, buyer is claiming it's console banned, what do?
- Thread starter Vashetti
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AbandonedTrolley
Member
Do you know this for fact as that would certainly be a shame if he got away with such actions because that still means at the end of the day he got working machine at the cost of a broken one
Nope not sure why you thought Evilore got involved? Mr Megative kicked up a storm on Twitter than seemed to push eBay in to action.
On the initial tweet it shows neogaf and his info. I thought the same but I think it just pulled the info up with GAF address.
Good to hear it's going in your favor Vashetti. This is giving me some confidence to sell something on eBay although I will provally try the GAF buy/sell first and then go eBay. Might have to finally learn how social media works since Twitter seems to be a useful tool in this day and age based on your results and others I've seen with various companies.
AbandonedTrolley
Member
Ergh FUCKER! in that case certainly keep whatever junk he sends you. Don't give him 2 machines for free!
Yup.
SlickShoes
Member
When are you expecting the "console" to arrive?
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
So Tweeting eBay resulted in some sense. Well done, it must have been stressful l know it was when l experienced an issue with eBay.
I wish Sony customer service was this good
I wish Sony customer service was this good
I am not defending the scammer, but Ebay can not do anything different..... think about it from their perspective.... £160 vs having to launch an investigation, having a professional look at the PS4. getting a legal statement from Sony..... potential court proceedings.....
Ebay are not going to commit thousands to an investigation when they can simply pay the seller and the problem goes away... they deal in probabilities, not facts.
it is a business decision, no more and no less
OverBlood 3
Banned
And he didn't have to kill anyone.
Going public is pretty much the only way to get anyone to listen.
Going public is pretty much the only way to get anyone to listen.
AbandonedTrolley
Member
Yeah I know it's a shame they can't just do a big FU to the buyer though. Still want to know what's in the box!
The Dude
Member
Lifetime is acquiring the license as we speak and casting has begun
Yeah, me too. Been following this thread ever since it started.
Hope it won't be your decapitated PS4
DrDamn
Member
The buyer was meant to send back what he received, if he doesn't then I would say Vashetti has recourse to take him to the small claims court. Probably not worth the effort, but an option if he did want to take it further. If he gets back the fully working PS4 he sent then it's not so bad at all.
Peroroncino
Member
Turns out twitter is the most useful tool in situations like this. I wonder what will be inside the return package, let us know OP.
Let's say I don't get back my working PS4 and I get one that is banned from PSN, or I get the shell of mine (my serial number) with the innards of a banned one.
Am I able to call the police? As the buyer was meant to send back my PS4, they are in effect stealing. And it's not like I'd be sending them on a fool's errand, I know the guy's address and even found his Facebook.
Am I able to call the police? As the buyer was meant to send back my PS4, they are in effect stealing. And it's not like I'd be sending them on a fool's errand, I know the guy's address and even found his Facebook.
Police will undoubtedly tell you it's a civil matter.
Lord British
Member
Glad you got refunded OP.
IMO, you should absolutely call the police. That would be nothing short of fraud.
Plumpbiscuit
Member
If that happens then yeah, he stole and scammed you. If you call 999 they'll probably direct you to this website, where you report online crimes such as theft and scams. You'll get a crime reference number and you can use that in your eBay case, the police will then decide if it's worth investigating but since you got your money back they may not end up pursuing it. Still, nothing to lose and it's still a crime afterall, no matter how petty.
Edit: Forgot to say, use your local area's police dept. website, the one above is for London.
Edit 2: This website is probably more appropriate. Action Fraud.
There's also the cost of reinforcing this bad behavior and encouraging others to give it a shot. It IS a business decision,and is interesting to see how different company's handle fraud. Some litigate EVERYTHING because they feel it's a worthwhile deterrent. Others just settle.
LostDonkey
Member
This. It shouldn't be just an issue between you, him and they ebay. He tried to scam someone, it's a crime. If he gets away with it - especially now that he still got the money - he will do it again.
I am Error
Member
This is the kind of story you can tell your grandchildren before they have to go to sleep.
breadtruck
Member
Glad the OP didnt take the loss, that was definitely NOT how I expected this to turn out. Too bad the buyer still gets his payday in the end.
lensoftruth
Member
Next step would be to get the PS4 you receive back unbanned by Sony, may as well go for win win.
As far as I know, Sony don't unban consoles.
Virtua Ben
Member
Yeah, me neither. I haven't had too many bad experiences on eBay *knocks on wood*, but when I do, I typically never deal with a human being that has emotions and compassion.
Good on Merry Megative, and good on the buyer. There's hope left in this world!
Jacksinthe
Banned
Good to read, Vashetti!
Sucks the scammer still gets the money, though. Whatever you decide to do with the package, if it's a PS4, open it and keep a vacuum cleaner handy in case some critters made a bed so you don't unleash a horde of bugs in your house.
Sucks the scammer still gets the money, though. Whatever you decide to do with the package, if it's a PS4, open it and keep a vacuum cleaner handy in case some critters made a bed so you don't unleash a horde of bugs in your house.
I've only been keeping up on this thread a bit, but if the buyer does in fact send you a different ps4 (internals or whole) hopefully sony will ban your old one that he's playing on now as stolen
AbandonedTrolley
Member
Yep pretty certain that OP can call Sony and advise that it's been stolen via fraudulent methods.
Not if I intend to get the police involved to get it back.
FlyStarJay
Member
this nearly brought tears to m eyes, thanks for the story vash and thanks for the guy who tweeted this stuff
Mister Megative
Banned
All I did was put it on Twitter. OP was the one in the trenches.
If you are considering to call the police, in case it's really not your console, I'd suggest doing that immediately after you open it. I'd also record the opening of the package and make sure that in the video you can see the senders Name, Adress and Delivery Number, if these things are on the package. Maybe even a short introduction as to why you are recording it. Also best to have all the other evidence ready that you already collected, if you really want to go further with this.
Mister Megative
Banned
I'd like Bruce Willis to play me.
MarkMclovin
Member
OP, do a video recording of the unboxing.
I'm currently staying with my parents, so if the box arrives in the next few days my partner should receive it. Don't know if he'll want me there to do the unboxing or not.
I'll keep you guys updated though.