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[SolidSnakex]

UKer or Japaneer?

I'm pretty sure Sony have sent trucks full of cash to Take 2's headquarters, is this prediction correct?

Think about which one would mean the least to Sony if it happened.

 

[Wax Free Vanilla]

Think about which one would mean the least to Sony if it happened.

UKer it is then.

I hope we see GTA4 on PS3 at this Sony conference. Izzy?

 

[CrimsonSkies]

Yes we all know GTA is going to be on PS3 first. Next.

 

[Doom_Bringer]

so Xbox 360 is getting FFXII?

 

[gofreak]

so Xbox 360 is getting FFXII?

Possible. A FF spinoff is possible also, I presume. Or maybe something all new?

Methinks Square succumbed when, among other things, MS provided all funding for a game, ala QFund for Crystal Chronicles on GC. I wonder if Square will provide support for Nintendo next time around without similar incentive?

Assuming this is all true, of course.

 

[Borys]

Sony would be damn smart in sending BIG FAT cash checks to Take 2 for exclusive GTA: Next-Gen for PS3. Announce this at E3 with some sort of short CG representing in-game graphics.

Then launch a massive ad campaign for the next-gen GTA with mindblowing trailers right when 360 launches.

"Next GTA. Online. 2006.
Only on PS3."

That would be a killer move.

 

[sol5377]

All are likely at E3, imo:

Square Enix with 1 title for 360.
GTA Next on 360 (timed exclusive?)
One more big 360 announcement.

what I meant to say is "If Microsoft hopes to lead next gen, then these are all likely..." They have said that they hope to lead, but let's see if they make the right moves to get there. I would be surprised if MS didn't have one or two BIG surprises at E3 in addition to the already leaked games. They've gotta bring 360 to the forefront of attention.

 

[BuddyC]

Sony would be damn smart in sending BIG FAT cash checks to Take 2 for exclusive GTA: Next-Gen for PS3. Announce this at E3 with some sort of short CG representing in-game graphics.

Don't expect Rockstar to show anything of a next-gen until next year.

 

[Pellham]

Square Enix will support Nintendo more than actually

They might initially, but then the Revolution will end up not selling and SE will just switch back to Sony. Or at least that's probably how it will be.

 

[Odnetnin]

Square Enix will support Nintendo more than actually

on this SE debate. Whoever gets SE wins next gen = fact. Its unavoidable really. They ARE 3rd party king in japan and well..... yeah.

 

[Kamtendo]

I wouldn't be totally surprised if SE developed something for Xbox360. I can see it happening. If so, I could definitely see some Revolution development as well. Nothing that Sony would have to worry about, I'm sure.

 

[StephaneC]

r u crazy impossible

 

[Borys]

Don't expect Rockstar to show anything of a next-gen until next year.

Even if they do something for 360? I hope you are wrong... I'd love to see some GTA: Next-Gen info this year be it on PS3 or even Xbox 360.

 

[StephaneC]

(impossible about FFXII on Xbox 360)

 

[SolidSnakex]

Even if they do something for 360? I hope you are wrong... I'd love to see some GTA: Next-Gen info this year be it on PS3 or even Xbox 360.

This is how Rockstar works. They aren't going to rush stuff to the table. If there are GTA's at E3 it'll be the PSP game and Xbox/PC version of SA.

 

[gofreak]

Hehe, some seemingly conflicting info going around here. Though I guess FFXII not being on 360 doesn't mean something else from SE can't be.

 

[Odnetnin]

Even if they do something for 360? I hope you are wrong... I'd love to see some GTA: Next-Gen info this year be it on PS3 or even Xbox 360.

I think they're still working on

a) THE WARRIORS
b) PC+XBOX GTA VC

so next Gen GTA might have to wait a while. But then its mostly the same game so....

 

[Borys]

I think they're still working on

a) THE WARRIORS
b) PC+XBOX GTA VC

so next Gen GTA might have to wait a while. But then its mostly the same game so....

Plus GTA: PSP (thanks, SSx). Right, I forgot about these. Oh well, we can wait, can't we?

 

[Ceb]

Plus GTA: PSP (thanks, SSx).

That's not Rockstar North, though.

 

[xsarien]

Can you hear that? Shhh. Shhhhhhh. Hush now. It's that rumble. The crack and sway of the Earth moving beneath your feet. It is happening, in nine days.







All your questions, answered. And a shockwave.

Something big? Annouced at one of the two E3's that's going to precede the new hardware launches? I am shocked. SHOCKED.

 

[EternalDarko]

Anyone wonder why there's been little to no FFXII news for such a long time?

also, Squenix has a very big amount of support for the DS compared to the PSP which is quite shocking considering their track record, maybe there are changes afoot.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Anyone wonder why there's been little to no FFXII news for such a long time?

also, Squenix has a very big amount of support for the DS compared to the PSP which is quite shocking considering their track record

You mean their track record for supporting the market leader? That's what they're doing with the DS right now.

 

[Izzy]

:lol@speculation. BTW, what makes you think everything will be revealed at the E3?

 

[Borys]

Anyone wonder why there's been little to no FFXII news for such a long time?

also, Squenix has a very big amount of support for the DS compared to the PSP which is quite shocking considering their track record, maybe there are changes afoot.

The more I think about it the more sense it makes.

FF12 goes 360.

That's why Square said nothing about this game. It will shock the industry. Same game, revamped graphics (from PS2 to 360!), added co-op maybe?

Square's mysterious silence + MS's deep pockets. Makes some sense.

 

[SolidSnakex]

The more I think about it the more sense it makes.

FF12 goes 360.

How does that really make sense? FFXII is costing alot of money to make as it is, so they're going to can it on the biggest RPG fanbase there is and then rebuild it back up on the follow up to the system that did extremely bad in Japan? That makes sense?

 

[Doom_Bringer]

The more I think about it the more sense it makes.

FF12 goes 360.

That's why Square said nothing about this game. It will shock the industry. Same game, revamped graphics (from PS2 to 360!), added co-op maybe?

Square's mysterious silence + MS's deep pockets. Makes some sense.

Sony owns 8% of Square Enix's stock. They were pretty pissed after Square put FFCC on GC and we know they never released GC game again....

I don't see this happening.

 

[Borys]

How does that really make sense? FFXII is costing alot of money to make as it is, so they're going to can it on the biggest RPG fanbase there is and then rebuild it back up on the follow up to the system that did extremely bad in Japan? That makes sense?

Doom_Bringer & SolidS(e)x:

Of course I know - that would be *very* stupid BUT MS can make it worthwile. No other company could afford it.

 

[xsarien]

Sony owns 8% of Square Enix's stock.

Oooh, a whole 8%.

That's hardly a controlling share of the company. Square goes where the audience is, end of (fucking) story.

 

[gofreak]

They were pretty pissed after Square put FFCC on GC

Were they?

Unless Sony has a board member at SE, they don't really have much control over them (?)

 

[Doom_Bringer]

Oooh, a whole 8%.

That's hardly a controlling share of the company. Square goes where the audience is, end of (fucking) story.

Look they helped Square after Final Fantasy Spirits Within flopped big time. I mean the movie bombed and Sony gave Square $150 million. Do you think Square will just take the main FF franchise and put on an American console? Not only will that piss of Sony, it will also piss off the fans.

This is very unlikely but it can happen. Square Enix has now fully recovered and they easily pay Sony back and move on if they wish to do so.

Were they?

Unless Sony has a board member at SE, they don't really have much control over them (?)

A story was posted on these forums right after FFCC was announced. It goes something like this: Ken was not in Japan when Square announced FFCC for GC, but when he came back he called Square immediately and asked about the announcement and what had happened.

I don't remember too many details, but it was definitely posted here.

 

[SolidSnakex]

They're giving the next XBox support it doesn't mean they're getting their big guns. They gave the GC support too and what did it get? Yep, a Kawazu game.

 

[MightyHedgehog]

How does that really make sense? FFXII is costing alot of money to make as it is, so they're going to can it on the biggest RPG fanbase there is and then rebuild it back up on the follow up to the system that did extremely bad in Japan? That makes sense?

The already fairly exorbitant costs of SE's biggest titles will likely be the reason you'll see a strong push for multiplatform releases from them next-gen, IMO. SE's so large at this point, developer headcount-wise, that it would seem to be so foolish to place all of their product on just one line of hardware in a given market.

 

[StephaneC]

Sony owns 8% of Square Enix's stock. They were pretty pissed after Square put FFCC on GC and we know they never released GC game again....

I don't see this happening.

Nintendo have part of Game Designers Studio (Square Enix) right ? so this studio is probably working on other games for revolution

 

[SolidSnakex]

The already fairly exorbitant costs of SE's biggest titles will likely be the reason you'll see a strong push for multiplatform releases from them next-gen, IMO. SE's so large at this point, developer headcount-wise, that it would seem to be so foolish to place all of their product on just one line of hardware in a given market.

I'm not saying we won't see more SE titles go multiplatform next gen. I just can't imagine them canning something as expensive as FFXII and moving it to a new console.

 

[Hero]

Square will support PS3 the most, but I expect more support of Revolution than they did with Gamecube.

 

[EternalDarko]

Look they helped Square after Final Fantasy Spirits Within flopped big time. I mean the movie bombed and Sony gave Square $150 million. Do you think Square will just take the main FF franchise and put on an American console? Not only will that piss of Sony, it will also piss off the fans.

This is very unlikely but it can happen.



A story was posted on these forums right after FFCC was announced. It goes something like this: Ken was not in Japan when Square announced FFCC for GC, but when he came back he called Square immediately and asked about the announcement and what had happened.

I don't remember too many details, but it was definitely posted here.

Well that was a funny situation because, from what I've been told; FFCC was made by a dev team which is pretty much funded by Yamouchi's Q fund, what Square did was allow them to use the Final Fantasy title and Publish the game under their name. So Square really didn't put much if any effort into the game.

 

[Doom_Bringer]

Well that was a funny situation because, from what I've been told; FFCC was made by a dev team which is pretty much funded by Yamouchi's Q fund, what Square did was allow them to use the Final Fantasy title and Publish the game under their name. So Square really didn't put much if any effort into the game.

When was FFCC released? Game Republic could have easily developed some more games for GC but it didn't happen. I think the whole deal was an excuse to develop Gameboy games.

 

[monkeyrun]

now I'll just have to wait for xBox 720 and see if there'll be any Square support rumors :lol

 

[Amir0x]

Something big? Annouced at one of the two E3's that's going to precede the new hardware launches? I am shocked. SHOCKED.

Not shocked enough, it seems!

 

[Baconäger]

Square is back with Nintendo for nex-gen, not MS.

 

[Amir0x]

Square is back with Nintendo for nex-gen, not MS.

What do you mean "back"? Did you miss Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles?

 

[mrklaw]

Sony owns 8% of Square Enix's stock

They owned *all* of Psygnosis and that didn't stop them releasing games for other platforms.

I don't see anyone defecting away from Sony. Worst case they'll go multiplatform, or give a non-core franchise an exclusive, like SE did with FF:CC. No biggie to Sony really.

 

[Azrael]

I wouldn't be surprised if GTA debuts exclusively for PS3. Remember that Sony and Take 2 revised their exclusivity contract for the GTA franchise? Originally, all GTA games were to be PS2 exclusive on consoles until 2005. The contract was adjusted allowing X-Box ports of GTA games a year after the PS2 release.

I doubt Sony allowed the contract to be changed with nothing in it for them in return. It's highly probable that Sony allowed X-Box versions of GTA in exchange for future exclusives on the PSP and PS3.

 

[Bebpo]

Oooh, a whole 8%.

That's hardly a controlling share of the company. Square goes where the audience is, end of (fucking) story.

Err...and last time I looked FF is selling more in Jpn than the US and in Jpn the audience will be with the PS3.

I'm sure SE will make some Brave Fencer type games from Xbox360, but rpgs ALWAYS sell better in Japan and the rpgs in Jpn WILL BE on the PS3 no questions asked. So any major rpg from SE will be on the PS3.

Maybe if Japanese rpgs got popular again in the US like during the days of FF7; then maybe we'd see more rpgs made for the Xbox360. But your average rpg in the US sells under 100k, shit most of them sell under 60k. Whereas in Japan you're looking at 150-400k for your small name average rpg and 500k-1million for your big hitters.

 

[Oogami]

Square Enix is PS3 exclusive.

 

[Amir0x]

Square Enix is PS3 exclusive.

No.

 

[Odnetnin]

Err...and last time I looked FF is selling more in Jpn than the US and in Jpn the audience will be with the PS3.

I'm sure SE will make some Brave Fencer type games from Xbox360, but rpgs ALWAYS sell better in Japan and the rpg in Jpn WILL BE the PS3 no questions asked. So any major rpgs from SE will be on the PS3.

Maybe if Japanese rpgs got popular again in the US like during the days of FF7; then maybe we'd see more rpg's made for the Xbox360. But your average rpg in the US sells under 100k, shit most of them sell under 60k. Whereas in Japan you're looking at 150-400k for you small name average rpg and 500k-1million for your big hitters.

Bebpo nailed it. Exactly why I'd not discount PS3 + Japanese RPGs. Funny thing is, I've played like less than 5 this gen, but I used to play pretty much all the JRPG last gen. PS3 or REV will take this pie.

 

[Rahul]

The way I've always seen it is that:

- PlayOnline and Xbox Live fundamentally do not work together (one is platform independent, one is platform specific)
- Square Enix is expanding into a strong network presence using PC, PS2, and cellphone games, which don't combine with Live very well
- it doesn't make sense to start producing games for an unproven audience like that of the Xbox when you have the cumulative expansion of the cellphone market worldwide and the already successful PS2 and GBA platforms
- Polymorphism implies designing new brands from the ground up with platform independence in mind (including future communication between such platforms). Xbox Live's ideology doesn't work with that.

If Squenix were to publish to Xbox 360 & Live, they'd need to answer those points and from my armchair perspective I can't really see any feasible solutions to them. Sure, it's another audience to appeal to, but I don't think it's viewed as relevant enough (yet) when looking at the worldwide demographic.

On the other hand, I know nothing about the inner workings of the company, so they might just as well do a 180 (no pun intended) and surprise everyone next week.

 

[trmas]

Final Fantasy on XBox? That in and of itself is a fantasy :lol :lol :lol