3137MB, yeah. It is HD I guess, though it still seems on the big side.
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Shadow Hog
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It generally doesn't cause increases in file size to render the same assets at a higher resolution, so unless they upressed every texture in the game or something...
There's also the FMVs the game used - relatively few, admittedly, but if they rerendered those, I suppose it would cause the file size of the overall game to balloon... I kind of assumed they'd just use the old renders, though.
HD man, HD.
Shadow Hog
Member
If the assets haven't changed, the file size wouldn't either, no matter what resolution you render them at.
Seven Force
Banned
Downloaded the demo despite not really being interested in this release, and now I'm debating whether or not I should actually just take the plunge or not. >_>
Visuals hold up nicely, though.
Visuals hold up nicely, though.
Diablohead
Member
3GB! holy cheese what did they add, the textures in videos do not look that much better then the cube version.
Texture assets DO change when you go from SD to HD. That is the entire point of an HD remake, 3D models upscale just fine to higher resolutions. Texture file size bloats like crazy when you increase their resolution.
I downloaded it last night. Was pretty late, but I think it was ~2.3gb
Actually, the poster just thought the XBLA, PSN and iOS listings under the SA2 listing was for SA2, while it was actually for Sonic 4 Episode 2:
http://board.sonicstadium.org/topic...lation-media-topic/page__st__1660#entry561861
The game has never been listed for iOS.
jesus christ just draw a horizontal line
(yes I know it wasn't you)
tiggerkiddo
Member
Game looks and controls great...still not a fan of most of the songs (Keep it instrumental) but I'm liking the Pumpkin Hill song, kind of. I'm stuck at this freaking level because I can't find the last emerald piece...darnit!
City Escape still has the best music so far.
City Escape still has the best music so far.
I've found that the hardest emeralds are near the top of the mountain/in the church area.
tiggerkiddo
Member
Got those ones...it's this final one...ugh, I hate Knuckles levels so much.
Dead Man Typing
Member
1GB for Dreamcast version
1.5GB for Gamecube version
500MB of extras
Xbox owners will have to download the 1.5GB version as a DLC pack, where PS3 owners get it as an unlock key.
(This is a joke suggestion, I have no information on why this is 3GBs
Electivirus
Member
It's not his speed... he must be using the Chaos Emerald to waMY NAME IS SHADOW
Hahahaha, SA2's cutscenes. <3
Hahahaha, SA2's cutscenes. <3
Hot Coldman
Banned
I AM THE ULTIMATE-
its not low quality at all in NiGHTS. so I'm guessing SA2 is the same, its locked in SA2 and i don't know how to unlock it...
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
3 GB? I think I'm going to d/l SA2 tomorrow in time for the long weekend and just get NiGHTS tonight...
I'm eager to see that Iizuka-sama interview that Shadi's been talking about.
I'm eager to see that Iizuka-sama interview that Shadi's been talking about.
looks good but it shoud be sharper, its a little soft. framerate of the demo seems fine.
too bad they didnt fix any of the pop-in, its the same as it was on the dreamcast.
DonMigs85
Member
Explain Resident Evil 4 HD then.
Faker? Ha! You're not even good enough to be my fa-I'LLMAKEYOUEATTHOSEWORDS!
Copy-Paste from the NiGHTS topic, since this is related to both NiGHTS and SA2.
Edward@Sega, one of SEGA's community managers, made a comment about the PC version of SA2 and NiGHTS in the SEGA blogs:
Edward@Sega, one of SEGA's community managers, made a comment about the PC version of SA2 and NiGHTS in the SEGA blogs:
http://blogs.sega.com/2012/10/02/av...nture-2-and-nights-into-dreams/#comment-72206Hey everyone just wanted to reply to some of what I saw in the comments here! I understand the sensitivity over release dates and that if you are waiting for a PC version, then you dont want to feel short-changed. It has been previously announced that it is coming to PC thats not new. If you feel like that was a backhanded way to mention it, please accept my apologies. I meant it as a reminder.
First, months is the language from the press release. The choice to add that were in luck was mine. I totally see why it was taken as a youre in luck you have to wait comment but it was meant more along the lines of those of us who care about PC games can be happy knowing that it is on the way.
Its not meant as an exact figure it doesnt mean that it will take X or more months. It means the date is to be announced. That is literally all it means. I think in general, companies have to be cautious about release dates, especially if they estimate too early. I cant say more because we dont have more information to impart.
Second, my enthusiasm there is real.
Obviously it would be best if everything released together, but that simply cant always happen. Heres why:
The extra time is not because we didnt develop the PC version along with everything else. XBLA and PSN have a much more streamlined release structure its part of what makes those platforms so appealing. PC is not a single store, though there are a lot of different moving parts and places that may sell a given game, be it Amazon or Steam or Origin or GOG or whatever. To make sure those line up takes a little longer, especially at a time of year when companies release a ton of games.
I hope that helps explain the comment I know no one likes to wait. I cant tell anyone they have to like waiting a little longer, but for now thats what we have to do. These games and the fan communities for them mean a ton to me, so if theres any questions or lingering doubts, please let me know, Ill try to answer as best I can.
Shadow Hog
Member
No they don't. I can boot up GZDoom and play Doom 2: Hell on Earth at 1920x1080, but the assets are still in one single 13.9MB WAD file, with most textures being well under 256px x 128px large.
Also, Dolphin. Renders Wii games in HD. That doesn't mean the file size of the ISO you're running in it bloats up, though; it's the same assets, but the screen is larger.
This is assuming Sega took the time to redo every texture in the game. Honestly, I had assumed they would just port the textures as present in the Dreamcast original and simply increase the resolution that the game renders at - maybe redraw the HUD elements to look nice at that resolution. This is precisely what they did for Jet Set Radio, to my understanding. This'd be why some people were complaining that the textures on the models in that game look a bit blurry - because they're literally the same textures the Dreamcast game used.
If they did, in fact, redo all the textures and art assets for the increased resolution for SA2, it wouldn't only explain the size increase, it'd seriously be surpassing any expectations I'd had for this HD rerelease.
They really are awful. Somehow worse than SA1.
VGChampion
Member
The Halloween emerald collecting stage was the hardest thing ever.
Hot Coldman
Banned
First time through? Definitely a pain in the ass.
Repeated playthroughs to get A rank? Not... terribly teeth wrenching. But maybe I have rose tinted glasses because I played this game way too damn much when I was 12. Like, I wouldn't be surprised if when I play this (when PC version releases) I'll still remember the common locations of the emeralds in Pumpkin Hill & Wild Canyon. Or hell, even Meteor Herd.
I don't know what I was on when I was 12 to replay those levels, other than probably to get shit for my chao. :V
Shooting is much slower and heavier. And the combos aren't as satisfying as they were in SA1. (Not to mention Tails' levels were annoying designed compared to Eggman's)
And the Emerald Hunting was just downgraded. The ability to sense only ONE emerald in order is really annoying. And it doesn't help the levels are sometimes stupidly huge so you have to spend hours finding them.
So lammmeeee.
Even though people are already remembering the frustrations they had with the game, I can't help but feel that you all are doing it out of nostalgic love. Like when I cursed out parts of Knuckles stages earlier, I still had this "ahhhh it's been awhile" thought in the back of my head
Even though people are already remembering the frustrations they had with the game, I can't help but feel that you all are doing it out of nostalgic love. Like when I cursed out parts of Knuckles stages earlier, I still had this "ahhhh it's been awhile" thought in the back of my head
No, the only thing in the back of my head is "Why the fuck didn't I just pick up Nights before picking up SA2." This thought was doubled after I cleared Pumpkin Hill about a minute ago.
... In fact...
Man, Pumpkin Hill is really stumping folks today. The stages that make me rage are Security Hall, Meteor Herd, Death Chamber, Mad Space, and Eternal Engine.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Listening to the Sonic Adventure 2 soundtrack right now.
This is like the only time rap has worked in a videogame.
This is like the only time rap has worked in a videogame.
Fucking hell, I forgot about Meteor Herd.
Edit: Son of a... Pumpkin Hill, Tails level, and Aquatic Mine all back to back.
Hot Coldman
Banned
I'm buying the majority of the DD Sega games on PSN tomorrow. Are there any I should avoid? I heard bad things about the HD port of Sonic Adventure 1 but I love that game. Are the bad reviews due to it being a bad port or just people not liking the game?
Also, how the fuck are these games so big? RIP PS3 hard drive.
Also, how the fuck are these games so big? RIP PS3 hard drive.
Still not sure if SA2 is a good port or not, but it does have HD and widescreen, so it's already better than the lazy SA1 port.
I think a lot of people would say that SA1 is the superior game, but in general, the port got shat on because, yes, it was a bad port. 4:3, ugly bordering, nothing new, etc.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
So is this out on 360 or what?
Not til Friday.