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Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed |OT| Everybody's Super Sonic Racing
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Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
I'm expecting a counter argument but I'm going to drop out of it since I don't see anything productive coming from arguing over opinions, but I will say this as the debate did make me think about it.
One thing which I'm happy SUMO touched up on a lot is track design, which is quite different from most kart racers but works really well here and shows the experience SEGA and the Blur team have in making a very SEGA arcade feel to things. The attention to detail in the stages I also can say is unmatched to any other kart racer I've seen. Little details that fans can appreciate are littered in the tracks, from nice little details in the House of the Dead course where various boss monsters from the series wreck-up the mansion and as each lap goes we watch Zombio & Zombia prepare and evnetually get married, or in the NiGHTS stage where you pass through the dream gates and enter into different nightmare areas, or how you watch the downfall of the Burning Rangers facility unfold similarly to how it does in the game, and even see the two main characters of the game take on different challenges around the arena. The stages morph and transform a lot, usually with different remixed music from these franchises to accompany it.
The roster isn't perfect, but how they handled the stages, characters, and the likes is just wonderful in my opinion, and I'm not evening delving into some of the more spoilery or specific details that the game goes into only fans of these series would pick up on.
One thing which I'm happy SUMO touched up on a lot is track design, which is quite different from most kart racers but works really well here and shows the experience SEGA and the Blur team have in making a very SEGA arcade feel to things. The attention to detail in the stages I also can say is unmatched to any other kart racer I've seen. Little details that fans can appreciate are littered in the tracks, from nice little details in the House of the Dead course where various boss monsters from the series wreck-up the mansion and as each lap goes we watch Zombio & Zombia prepare and evnetually get married, or in the NiGHTS stage where you pass through the dream gates and enter into different nightmare areas, or how you watch the downfall of the Burning Rangers facility unfold similarly to how it does in the game, and even see the two main characters of the game take on different challenges around the arena. The stages morph and transform a lot, usually with different remixed music from these franchises to accompany it.
The roster isn't perfect, but how they handled the stages, characters, and the likes is just wonderful in my opinion, and I'm not evening delving into some of the more spoilery or specific details that the game goes into only fans of these series would pick up on.
Baconsammy
Banned
Do you rate the first one higher?
I contemplated this. But when is the release date? i couldn't find it anywhere
Think im going to turn off the announcer. Everything else looks great, but I still think they should have gone all out with the power ups, Sega style, and not random stuff like a catchers mitt and a blowfish.
I'm sure there are items that span Sega's console life that could substitute for alot of this stuff, or just small adjustments like a blowfish badnik instead of an actual fish.
I'm sure there are items that span Sega's console life that could substitute for alot of this stuff, or just small adjustments like a blowfish badnik instead of an actual fish.
Baconsammy
Banned
I for one am interested in your opinion. Especially in how it compares to the first game, which I think is excellent (controls, visually, balance etc). If that's me having low standards, then pass me a Hot Pocket and a 5 dollar hooker.
Shadow Hog
Member
DS and 3DS versions, respectively, yes, but those aren't the versions people care about (and 3DS Generations is rather mediocre). Respective Wii and 360/PS3/PC versions were internally-developed.
denshuu
Member
Tizoc
Member
Game looks sooooooooooooo good.
Also After Burner stage theme is friggin' awesome.
Karts feel...heavy than from the first game to me, but it's no biggy.
I got the Bonus edition which came with metal Sonic and Outrun Bay (US ver.), code worked, so if any USA-ers got it early the code should work for u too =D
Also After Burner stage theme is friggin' awesome.
Karts feel...heavy than from the first game to me, but it's no biggy.
I got the Bonus edition which came with metal Sonic and Outrun Bay (US ver.), code worked, so if any USA-ers got it early the code should work for u too =D
http://www.twitch.tv/fiveleafclover
is doing a boost challenge on expert mode, keeps failing, but it's great to watch. Ugggh... 5 more days
dude will make you feel guilty for turning him off
is doing a boost challenge on expert mode, keeps failing, but it's great to watch. Ugggh... 5 more days
dude will make you feel guilty for turning him off
The Mana Legend
Banned
The sequel to this had better have a full fledged adventure mode akin to Diddy Kong Racing.
Shit would be so tight.
Shit would be so tight.
I believe the Wii U version does not have voice chat though.
Also, it seems like a lot of this thread wants to get the game on Wii U. I wonder if this game will have higher sales overall on Wii U than the other consoles despite the smaller userbase. It does look to appeal to the Mario Kart gamer (I know that's why I'm getting it)...
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
I liked the first game. It wasn't perfect, but it was a lot of fun and I thought was a pretty confident little racer. However, after playing Transformed I think it's going to be a lot harder going back to the first game. I wouldn't be saying this if I didn't think it, but they have literally improved almost everything in this game over the original.
The first big thing you'll notice is that the game handles a lot smoother now. It takes some time to get used to a few elements (especially drifting as it works much differently than previously and is a lot sharper), but all the cars have an appropriate weight to them. In the first game the cars felt a bit floaty, but that's not the case here. The driving feels quite solid. However, I must say one aspect I am impressed with is the boats. They did a great job in making the boats feel like... Well, boats. I was kind of afraid before playing that the boats would just feel like slippery cars or something, but they are handled well and the way that waves affect you adds a lot of strategy to these sequences as I find myself strategizing how to make waves to disrupt racers behind me or how to ride the waves ahead of me accordingly.
The tracks are much, MUCH better than the original game in every conceivable way. Firstly, how they're designed is much more fun, but more than that it sticks out that the tracks are not afraid to be inventive. They morph and shape out differently so that each lap is a different experience. From the Shinobi track changing seasons for each lap, to the Skies of Arcadia track getting under attack in the second lap and the third lap large chunks of the world missing, or to the Burning Rangers track where things get progressively more and more on fire and crumble as water levels rise and the place begins flooding... I could go on, but the way the tracks are designed matched with how they morph through the race is a lot of fun. And this isn't even getting into the attention to detail happening in the tracks, most tracks sort of have a 'story' to them that you can see playing out during the game that takes moments of the game that they are derived from. Others touch up on gameplay moments, such as the Starlight Carnival map eventually has Aero Chasers come onto the straight ways like they do in Colors and shoot lasers down the track, or the giant rides into the track and now it's a drive through the hull of the ship.
Music and sound is fantastic with some great attention to detail. Remixed tracks are awesome, and the character dialogue seems to have a lot more thought into it (helped most of the dialogue is actually newly recorded). One nice touch is how certain stages have character speech that will mean a lot to fans, like Professor K in the Jet Set Radio track, or Wizeman putting you down in a chaotic last nightmare sequence before the finish line in the NiGHTS tracks. While a shame to lose choosable tracks, I think it was a fair exchange for remixed tracks and tracks that change as the course changes.
The game has a lot of content, and the difficulties add a lot. The higher difficulty you are on isn't just for show, the higher difficulty levels are tough. But then the higher difficulty level you go on also makes the races faster, as each difficulty level up turns up the speed. Lots of missions in the campaign, lots of modes to explore, and as some will be happy to hear, a LOT more modes and customabilty online, including battle mode online finally. Also couch friends can hop with you online, which is a plus.
The way you can unlock mods for character by leveling them up RPG style is fun, and allows you to improve and decrease a trait of a character to your liking.
There's more, but I still need to play more to form a full opinion.
I know! I was wondering what the hell the other guy was talking about when he started talking down on the games lighting and such. It's not the best-looking game ever, but it looks a lot prettier than the last game, and there's a lot of visual effects that I thought were impressive, with the added bonus that there's almost always something going on. It's really nice to see locations you're familiar with from games years old updated to the current gen.
Same here. Big sega fan + nintendo fan + Newegg having a cheaper preorder (29.99) = purchase.
Has it been confirmed the WiiU version doesnt have voice chat though, because that just seems strange.
Shadow2222
Member
Is there any sort of story mode? I've been searching Google but I can't find anything, so I'm assuming no.
EDIT: Never mind, just found my answer.
EDIT: Never mind, just found my answer.
S0L said something along the lines of the current voice chat implementations which requires you to be plugged into the tablet, regardless of what controller you're using, and the game's natural local multiplayer inclinations had them exclude it from the Wii U version.
NiGHTs the Car is kind of creeping me out: http://i.imgur.com/Iz4nU.jpg
kobashi100
Banned
hope the Wii U version isnt a bad port. Hope it gets reviewed soon as I am holding off buying the 360 version and I want to play this game!
The hell is that thing driving the NiGHTs? lol
Couldnt they have...I dunno, just had NiGHTS flying on its own for the car form, the spinning rocket attack for air, and the fishtail (from the Saturn game) form for water?
Would have looked much better in action, and certainly less creepy.
Baconsammy
Banned
Thank you for all that. You can I can wallow in our low standards together. I can't wait to grab this.
Tizoc
Member
Nightopian I believe
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
Hopped up Nightopian.
That's okay, I wasn't planning on sleeping for the next six weeks anyway.
Yeah, I don't know why it's green, though.
Shadow Hog
Member
Man, your Christmas-week nap is gonna be so relaxing.
Just played through the first couple of tracks in career mode (PS3 version). I'm loving it so far. The Panzer Dragoon course was a 'Fuck My Tall Hat' moment. The soundtrack for it gave me goosebumps and I went round the whole circuit with a stupid great big grin on my face.
Framerate seems nice and stable so far, although to be fair I'm not sure I'd notice it dropping here and there anyway, you really get sucked in with everything that is going on.
It smells like GOTY material [for me], but we'll see if that holds up as we go further in.
Oh and I'm loving the flying/boat sections too. So far they seem to be more supplementary to the 'on the road' parts - not sure if that's just because it's a gentle introduction or if it's a continuous theme.
Either way, great start.
Framerate seems nice and stable so far, although to be fair I'm not sure I'd notice it dropping here and there anyway, you really get sucked in with everything that is going on.
It smells like GOTY material [for me], but we'll see if that holds up as we go further in.
Oh and I'm loving the flying/boat sections too. So far they seem to be more supplementary to the 'on the road' parts - not sure if that's just because it's a gentle introduction or if it's a continuous theme.
Either way, great start.
He's a little more grey in-game, I think. That's an iPhone picture of my TV, so the colors might be off.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
You will do more driving than the other modes overall, but the other parts get a lot more exposure in the later tracks. There even are a couple of tracks with no driving sections, just all flying and boating.
Ok so I've been playing like 2 hours or so.
We have Kart Game of the Forever material here. Everything has been improved a lot, much better tracks (the Golden Axe and Shinobi ones are great!), no powersliding abuse (it's there, but you can't go on powerlisding forever like in the first game), great handling for the Plane & Boat (that was my number #1 concern), remixes of classical themes (the main theme from Panzer Dragoon intro sent chills down my spine, seriously!).
Let's hope they don't rip us apart with the DLC...
We have Kart Game of the Forever material here. Everything has been improved a lot, much better tracks (the Golden Axe and Shinobi ones are great!), no powersliding abuse (it's there, but you can't go on powerlisding forever like in the first game), great handling for the Plane & Boat (that was my number #1 concern), remixes of classical themes (the main theme from Panzer Dragoon intro sent chills down my spine, seriously!).
Let's hope they don't rip us apart with the DLC...
Ok now that I've been comparing some videos the 360 version might be a little choppier than ps3 while looking visually sharper. This is my oberservation from watching several youtubes of both console by different users and in either HD or not. PS3 looks a tad less vibrant but also doesn't have the subtle studder when panning left/right. This may be a rare situation when the ps3 version is better. Still the motion blur seems about the same on both but add choppiness on top
So I'm gonna head to TRU and grab a copy.
So I'm gonna head to TRU and grab a copy.
At least NiGHTS and Reala being the vehicles means they have a reason not to talk.
So, generally we're liking it then? Nice to see some genuine impressions of people enjoying it at any rate.
We've been watching Q cumberR off the SEGA forums stream all day, I think he'd vouch for the unlockable All-Star difficulty being rather tough
Worth a watch, but of course, be warned, serious spoilers in that though.
Crunchy Jelly bloke, if it's 60FPS you want, you'll need the PC version. I really don't think we're circa 2007 visuals though. I think that might be a tad harsh!
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We've been watching Q cumberR off the SEGA forums stream all day, I think he'd vouch for the unlockable All-Star difficulty being rather tough
Worth a watch, but of course, be warned, serious spoilers in that though.
Crunchy Jelly bloke, if it's 60FPS you want, you'll need the PC version. I really don't think we're circa 2007 visuals though. I think that might be a tad harsh!
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patrickthehedgehog
Member
THAT is GOLDEN! <3 So crazy.
So, generally we're liking it then? Nice to see some genuine impressions of people enjoying it at any rate.
We've been watching Q cumberR off the SEGA forums stream all day, I think he'd vouch for the unlockable All-Star difficulty being rather tough
Worth a watch, but of course, be warned, serious spoilers in that though.
Crunchy Jelly bloke, if it's 60FPS you want, you'll need the PC version. I really don't think we're circa 2007 visuals though. I think that might be a tad harsh!
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Excuse me, is the PC release TBA 2012? or TBA?
Still waiting for SEGA to announce it, until they do, sadly we can't say anything on this.
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Gunstarheroes
Member
I'm assuming you can't talk about the
stuff, can you?
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