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[Azure Dream]

I called GameStop before they closed, no luck.

Watched the cutscenes, they're not too spoilery, just the intro that's already been out there, the cutscene shown in the first video, and a very short cutscene of

Spoiler

Modern Sonic and Tails discussing how familiar Chemical Plant was. Funny nod to "that pink water makes me really nervous for some reason."

 

[TheOGB]

Oh god... I need... but, the spoilers... what do I... fffffffffUUUUUUUUU

 

[Azure Dream]

It's not that there's tons of plot to spoil, at least not until the end I'm sure, but the jokes probably won't be funny to you the second time. So if you're a Sonic nerd and the references are actually amusing to you, best not to watch.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

What are the links to all these videos supposedly being posted?

 

[Community Forum]

No doubt Best Buy management will have an email waiting for them tomorrow morning with a DO NOT SELL warning, and a lockout from purchase at the register until release date, right?

 

[Brazil]

Do any of you guys have a higher resolution, wallpaper-sized version of the piece of artwork below?

Thank you in advance.

 

[RagnarokX]

Heh, watching those videos.

"You know, back in the day we didn't need these signs to tell us when we were gonna die if we fell."

That's because there were almost no bottomless pits back then.

 

[Klaymator14]

What are the links to all these videos supposedly being posted?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGfmsmB-H90

 

[The Xtortionist]

Heh, watching those videos.

"You know, back in the day we didn't need these signs to tell us when we were gonna die if we fell."

That's because there were almost no bottomless pits back then.

You can turn them off.

 

[LeonSKennedy90]

You can turn them off.

The bottomless pits? I doubt it

 

[RagnarokX]

You can turn them off.

The point I was making was that there weren't bottomless pits in the old games like there are now...

 

[DeVeAn]

Anyone else successful in finding this at a different Best Buy?

No luck here.

 

[The Xtortionist]

The point I was making was that there weren't bottomless pits in the old games like there are now...

Yeah but the signs pretty much cancel them out.

 

[RussellXV]

Nothing at my Best Buy. Oh well, less than a week to go.

 

[Klaymator14]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToHKMC8uZZw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2KOJSbVbH0

Chemical Plant and Sky Sanctuary Modern versions ripped from the game.

 

[RagnarokX]

Yeah but the signs pretty much cancel them out.

No, good level design would cancel them out

The signs are a compromise.

 

[LeonSKennedy90]

bottomless pit = bad level design?

These-are-platformers-dude.gif

somebody get in on that gif, please

 

[The Xtortionist]

I hope you're not implying that any game with bottomless pits automatically has bad level design.

edit- goddammit leon *wangpales leon*

 

[TheOGB]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToHKMC8uZZw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2KOJSbVbH0

Chemical Plant and Sky Sanctuary Modern versions ripped from the game.

YESSSS

STRAIGHT INTO MY VEINS

goddamn i need sleep, thanks to this i won't get any D:

 

[Professor Beef]

The point I was making was that there weren't bottomless pits in the old games like there are now...

Sonic 1, 2, and 3 had them.

 

[The Xtortionist]

YESSSS

STRAIGHT INTO MY VEINS

goddamn i need sleep, thanks to this i won't get any D:

 

[Dark Schala]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToHKMC8uZZw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2KOJSbVbH0

Chemical Plant and Sky Sanctuary Modern versions ripped from the game.

Awesome.

They sound great. I like the bass in the Modern Chem Plant mix a lot. Now I want more stuff from Generations to listen to. :O

 

[Klaymator14]

I can't wait to see if they upload any more rips!

 

[LeonSKennedy90]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfUiJ-Fgyt4 - Collection Room(S3 save file select remix)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3b4dPxvpNgg - Skills Shop(S2 Multiplayer results remix)

 

[Christopher]

I wonder if Sega ever rereleases Sonic 2006 will the actually go in and fix all the freaking bugs and errors with it...it could be better if it didn't reek of being rushed.

I'm hoping generations delivers...do we have confirmation of any DLC levels?

 

[RagnarokX]

Sonic 1, 2, and 3 had them.

Yep. Sure did. Notice the "like there are now" part.

Sonic 1 had the most bottomless pits of the classics; Green Hill, Spring Yard, Star Light, and Scrap Brain.

Sonic 2 had a very hard to fall into pit in Act 2 of Emerald Hill, Chemical Plant Act 2, Hill Top, and Wing Fortress.

Sonic 3 had very hard to reach pits in Ice Cap Act 2, Flying Battery, Lava Reef Act 2, and one in Sky Sanctuary that you literally have to jump into.

In general pits were very rare and you had to be very bad at the game to even fall in most of them.

In new games they are in every single level and numerous.

 

[TheOGB]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfUiJ-Fgyt4 - Collection Room(S3 save file select remix)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3b4dPxvpNgg - Skills Shop(S2 Multiplayer results remix)

I

fucking

love this

 

[LeonSKennedy90]

Oh no, bottomless pits! How will I jump through levels without a care in the world of any kind of challenge now?

 

[SabinFigaro]

Oh God, I want this game to be so good it hurts. It hurts everywhere.

 

[The Xtortionist]

In new games they are in every single level and numerous.

I don't think either GHZ classic or modern has them...

 

[Klaymator14]

Man those new rips are delicioussss. mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[Professor Beef]

In new games they are in every single level and numerous.

...So? Learn to watch where you're going, like in every other platformer ever made, and you'll do fine.

 

[Dark Schala]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfUiJ-Fgyt4 - Collection Room(S3 save file select remix)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3b4dPxvpNgg - Skills Shop(S2 Multiplayer results remix)

It'd be cool if Collection Room were designed like a lounge.

When is SEGA going to announce the actual soundtrack already? I don't think any of the preorder bonuses for any of the countries include a mini-soundtrack (the JP ones consist of first stage music from most Sonic games, and the PAL Collector's Edition one appears to be this with music from the series that's been selected by Sonic Team as it contains listings for themes for Black Knight, Secret Rings, Sonic Rivals, Sonic Heroes, etc).

 

[RagnarokX]

I don't think either GHZ classic or modern has them...

There are bottomless pits that you spring over and under a corkscrew for Classic. Modern has bottomless pits under rail grinding sections and corkscrews.

...So? Learn to watch where you're going, like in every other platformer ever made, and you'll do fine.

Doesn't stop them from being cheap. Plus it's lazier level design.

 

[LeonSKennedy90]

Who the fuck falls in a bottomless pit in GHZ?

Turn in your damn gamer card

edit: Wow, this dude is seriously complaining about bottomless pits. In a platformer.

Holy shit

 

[Professor Beef]

Doesn't stop them from being cheap.

Annnnnnnnd we're done here.

 

[The Xtortionist]

There are bottomless pits that you spring over and under a corkscrew for Classic. Modern has bottomless pits under rail grinding sections and corkscrews.

 

[qq more]

Bottomless pits CAN be cheap, but Colors/Generation' pits are fair and therefore not cheap.


Sonic 06 on the OTHER hand....

 

[RagnarokX]

Who the fuck falls in a bottomless pit in GHZ?

Turn in your damn gamer card

edit: Wow, this dude is seriously complaining about bottomless pits. In a platformer.

Holy shit

Yes, because the old games didn't overuse them. Lots of people complain about bottomless pits. Not really because you fall into them but because the old games had more vertical exploration and pits were made almost impossible because they used screen wrapping where you'd go from the bottom of the screen to the top of the screen to make more complex level maps.

http://i.imgur.com/by3at.gif

Well you said there weren't any but there are. I included the 1 very small and almost impossible to fall into one in Emerald Hill to be fair. I didn't say the ones in GHZ for either character were easy to fall into, but there are a lot more pits in later stages. A few videos of bad players had people falling off the rails in Modern GHZ, that was sad.

 

[Nert]

Well, it looks I'll be staying up all night to look for soundtrack leaks

 

[TheOGB]

Bottomless pits in Sonic 1-3&K: standard platforming shit
Bottomless pits in Sonic Colors/Generations: given warning, so not too bad
Bottomless pits in Advance series: "Fuck this shit, I'm playing Sonic Battle instead"

 

[Firestorm]

...So? Learn to watch where you're going, like in every other platformer ever made, and you'll do fine.

In some newer Sonic games they directly lead you into it with springs / boosts and make you learn to avoid them by memorization through repeated deaths.

 

[The Xtortionist]

In some newer Sonic games they directly lead you into it with springs / boosts and make you learn to avoid them by memorization through repeated deaths.

Generations isn't being developed by Dimps

 

[Klaymator14]

Bottomless pits in Advance series: "Fuck this shit, I'm playing Sonic Battle instead"

i whole-heartedly agree with this statement

 

[LeonSKennedy90]

That's one of the main reasons the Genesis games just seemed to get progressively easier. As the levels got bigger, you got in less and less danger of actually dying from bottomless pits, right up into S3&K where you'll have 99 lives by the end of the game because there's zero challenge.

 

[Dark Schala]

I really want to hear the final boss theme.

Also, the Collection Room Theme is more reminiscent of the Museum Theme from Sonic Jam than Sonic 3 in terms of tempo, I think.

 

[LeonSKennedy90]

I really want to hear the final boss theme.

Also, the Collection Room Theme is more reminiscent of the Museum Theme from Sonic Jam than Sonic 3 in terms of tempo, I think.

Its definitely a take on the Museum, but that in turn is a take on Sonic 3.

Its a remix of a remix /xyzbit

 

[RagnarokX]

Bottomless pits are mostly bad in Sonic Advance and Rush, and most of the 3D games (especially when you're just grinding rails over them). They punish exploration, because most of the time jumping down a hole in a Sonic game would just lead to a different path. Rush had quite a few areas that looked like they might be alternate paths and turned out to be pits. They've added signs as a response to that argument so that you now know which pits don't lead to other paths, but then you have the problem of ugly signs everywhere. I'd prefer they just design levels with even more paths, more things to do in levels, like Sonic 3.

 

[Seven Force]

We have soundtrack leaks now?

 

[TheOGB]

I really want to hear the final boss theme.

Also, the Collection Room Theme is more reminiscent of the Museum Theme from Sonic Jam than Sonic 3 in terms of tempo, I think.

Sounds like one of the premade songs that'd be on my old-ass keyboard

The one with a glam rock remix of Ode to Joy