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Sonic Generations |OT| What Sonic can learn from Sonic
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Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
JonCha said:
Suprised by broken physics and 30 fps? *trollface*
I don't expect the game to be bad, but when I'm really just interested in the remade Mega Drive levels, and out of those I'm mostly just interested in the Classic Sonic acts and the 2D parts of Modern Sonic.. yeah, no, it's just not a full price day 1 purchase for me.
The Xtortionist
Member
What a shame.
Looks like the marketing for this game paid off: http://gematsu.com/2011/10/sonic-generations-pre-orders-top-franchise-history
7echnicolor
Member
.la1n said:
The standard price is $49.95. It's $47.99 on Amazon though.
Gamestop Germany's score for Sonic Generations.
TheCongressman1
Member
Anth0ny said:
Exactly. If they're not going to do it correctly, there's no point for them to have even included classic besides rounding up nostalgia money.
RagnarokX said:
This too.
7echnicolor
Member
TheCongressman1 said:
Yep.
Did you guys play the demo's they put out? What a disaster, played nothing like the classics. The physics are completely broken, and because of that, the game is unplayable.
And modern sonic? HORSE SHIT. Absolutely disgusting, the game is just not fun AT ALL.
It's like.. they're not even putting any effort into Generations. No hard work and no love was put into this game. Sonic Team should just give up. Let Sonic die already Sega.
Anyone agree?
TheCongressman1
Member
7echnicolor said:
Geez man, it's not that bad. I'd say it's the best 3D Sonic since SA2, but still there are a lot of problems with classic, and modern still basically plays itself.
I know you mean well and want people to be excited for the game, but defending a bad decision (and doing so really poorly) isn't going to change anyone's minds.JonCha said:
I don't think you ever needed to roll in any of the old Sonic games. It was an extra level of depth to the traversal that once you mastered it added more fun to the experience.
RobbieNick
Junior Member
Anth0ny said:
Because Sonic is only about rolling. That's it.
PeakPointMatrix
Member
I'm pretty confident you're being facetious, but it depresses me that it could pass for a totally serious post here.7echnicolor said:
"I didn't hate the demo therefore there is absolutely nothing wrong with it! It doesn't matter that the physics work nothing like in the classic games because the levels are designed around the limitations created and therefore don't play much like classic levels! It's not like classic gameplay is a major selling point!"7echnicolor said:
Sega is getting a lot right this time, but that's no reason to ignore what they are still getting wrong, especially when what they are getting wrong is fundamental to what people want from Classic Sonic; gameplay. I like what I played, but it needs work.
spindashing
Banned
Stupid USPS not ringing my bell. I have to wait another day for the Sonic 1&2 collection CD.
I might as well finish Sonic Unleashed while I wait...
I might as well finish Sonic Unleashed while I wait...
I take it you mean the EU CE? A lot have sold out. Amazon.de have it for 95 euros, though bear in mind the packaging will possibly be in German, not sure if that bothers you. If you're willing to give Grainger Games money after the GMA debacle they still have the PS3 version for £98 I think. Other than that you may have to ebay it.Tizoc said:
LeonSKennedy90
Banned
Sonic Generations is many things to many people, but saying there was no hard work or love put into it? Have you SEEN the fan service put into this thing? That's just flat out incorrect.
I hope you're being facetious.7echnicolor said:
There was clearly a LOT of effort put into this and I think they've delivered a fantastic game. Does it play exactly like the Genesis games? No, it doesn't (though I think it plays much better than Sonic CD). It still plays very well in its own right, however. It's a beautiful, fast, fun platforming action game.
Still, even if you dislike the game, you can't deny that there was clearly a lot of effort put into the product. To suggest that it is a lazy effort is really insulting as that is obviously not the case.
You needed to roll to get enough speed down slopes to make it high enough off ramps, break through walls, and protect yourself from enemies. If you got stuck at the bottom of a halfpipe you needed to roll to gain momentum to get out.Lijik said:
Basically rolling was fasted and safer than running at the sacrifice of more precise control (harder to slow down, have to jump).
LeonSKennedy90
Banned
The worst thing about Classic GHZ was simply too much shit on screen. Its way too busy, so the background and middleground blend in with the foreground and make this big blurry mess.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
7echnicolor said:
Sonic Colors oozed love from every pore. Generations seems to be continuing that. It doesn't matter if classic Sonic isn't "omfg pixel mapped to genesis phyx!". It plays rock solid, feels great just plain as a platformer by any game's standards. And the further tweaks to modern Sonic improve on the few remaining rough edges that Sonic Colors had in the area of platforming and controls.
And yes, it's a downright lie to claim that no care or effort is put into Generations. Absurd amounts of effort is going into evoking the classic zones, translating them into a new look without perverting the art direction or intentions. Same with the soundtrack, etc.
You sound determined to loath Sonic, even when Sonic Team is finally getting their act together. Sonic fandom is full of insane degrees of nostalgia bias; that's what you get with Sonic fans I guess.
PeakPointMatrix
Member
Guys I think he's joking, making fun of all the ONLY 30 FPSESS?? HE SLOWS DOWN ON A ROLLLL??? WORSE THAN 06 CONFIRMD!!!!
I think it's really funny when people shit on this game for being 30fps locked when all other AAA releases this fall are doing the same, and especially since this has been the same engine they have used for 5 years, why is anyone surprised? And on top of that you can still get a 60fps+ master race version on the PC.
The rolling slope thing should be fixed but it doesn't suddenly make the game an unplayable travesty either like some make it out to be. It's also a thing that could be patched in over night,
so people need to chillax and stop making it out to be the new minecart.
I think it's really funny when people shit on this game for being 30fps locked when all other AAA releases this fall are doing the same, and especially since this has been the same engine they have used for 5 years, why is anyone surprised? And on top of that you can still get a 60fps+ master race version on the PC.
The rolling slope thing should be fixed but it doesn't suddenly make the game an unplayable travesty either like some make it out to be. It's also a thing that could be patched in over night,
in the PC version by modders
Vampire On Titus
Member
7echnicolor said:
The initial demo classic Sonic game-play was horrid. They have made some improvements to how Sonic controls in this more recent demo, yeah it's not all the way there. It doesn't take much to see that it doesn't control as well as actual Genesis Sonic games.
However, it isn't an absolute failure either. Also, the modern Sonic game-play is great, that part is a real blast. At this point I'm willing to play through some just alright parts, to get to the good stuff. It's better than playing through shitty parts like in every other Sonic game.
Who knows? Maybe some of those classic Sonic levels will be good enough to briefly ignore the control shortcomings, it could happen.
In any case, yeah they didn't nail the classic game-play. I'm still really excited for Generations, though.
cevansdust
Neo Member
This thread makes me truly realize just how strong the Sonic community is. Even after the consistent let downs. Can't wait to play this game.
7echnicolor
Member
Don't worry guys, I'm kidding. I know the amount of effort and work they've put into Generations. I've been following the game since the day it was announced. It's funny though because I'm sure there are people out there who actually agree with my post.
You got it.
Lijik said:
You got it.
Apparently Best Buy at Dallas, Texas is selling the game early: http://twitter.com/#!/ceej64
Seven Force
Banned
Huh. I wonder if the usual places that break street dates in my area will have it in this weekend.TimmiT said:
PeakPointMatrix
Member
This is a Sonic thread on GAF though.RagnarokX said:
spindashing
Banned
Yeah, I just thought about that one a few hours ago. The release date is so close: I think I'll just wait it out.Lucky Number Seven Force said:
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
JonCha said:
I was joking about the physics and 30 fps
The spindash being fast is just a minor annoyance, nothing really big. And I bother because I'm still waiting for Sega to make another great Sonic 2D game, like the Classic Sonic parts in Generations (only with Mega Drive inspired levels rather than a bunch of city levels)It appears that Sonic Generations has broke the franchise record for most pre-orders.
http://gematsu.com/2011/10/sonic-generations-pre-orders-top-franchise-history
http://gematsu.com/2011/10/sonic-generations-pre-orders-top-franchise-history
Seven Force
Banned
Yeah, there's only a little under a week left, I might as well wait.spindashing said: