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Sonic Lost World Review Thread [Embargo Ends: Oct. 18th, 4:00 AM EDT]
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I liked the part where he complains about how slow and uncontrollable the single snowball level is, as he guides his fast-moving snowball with precision across narrow winding terrain from one huge boost jump to another huge boost jump.
MiamiWesker
Member
Oh no.
thesolidshark
Member
Most of the sentiment I expected out of some reviews, but that's lower than expected.
Since I'm aware of and glad it's different from Generations (I love Generations, Colors, and generally different ways of playing Sonic), as someone else said "this game is more review-proof for me."
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Thanks. Edited in.
I'm definitely looking forward to your endgame impressions by comparison because I know you were pretty eager to play the full thing even after you tried it out at E3.
it might be like secret rings where it's something of a mixed reception at best that i tend to genuinely like. what really intrigues me is exploring each level to the fullest.
Couldn't disagree more with the thoughts of that IGN reviewer about what makes a good Sonic game, but he's probably right that this one is bad. It's like when you user test a game, players are always right about how they feel, but almost never right about why they feel that way.
Sonic Generations did so much right, they just needed to keep pushing in that direction
Sonic Generations did so much right, they just needed to keep pushing in that direction
Couldn't disagree more with the thoughts of that IGN reviewer about what makes a good Sonic game, but he's probably right that this one is bad. It's like when you user test a game, players are always right about how they feel, but almost never right about why they feel that way.
Sonic Generations did so much right, they just needed to keep pushing in that direction
i think the sequel to generations needed to be a lengthier 2d game. the 3d stuff didn't work nearly as well as the 2d stuff on average.
Hmmm...that 5.8 is harsh.
Though he's mostly complaining about lack of speed (No mega boost à la Unleashed/Colors/Generations, but it's true that he just seems a bit slower overall.) which in my case I don't mind that much because speed still seems to be there but at a more moderate level to make more place for platforming/exploration sections. Which I thought was a great idea in Colors but Sonic's controls seemed a bit loose, now they're way more tight in Lost Worlds so these platforming parts are more than welcomed.
It seems to be an experimental, Mario-esque approach at Sonic, but it's the good kind of experimental imo and he's still way faster than Mario.
Though he's mostly complaining about lack of speed (No mega boost à la Unleashed/Colors/Generations, but it's true that he just seems a bit slower overall.) which in my case I don't mind that much because speed still seems to be there but at a more moderate level to make more place for platforming/exploration sections. Which I thought was a great idea in Colors but Sonic's controls seemed a bit loose, now they're way more tight in Lost Worlds so these platforming parts are more than welcomed.
It seems to be an experimental, Mario-esque approach at Sonic, but it's the good kind of experimental imo and he's still way faster than Mario.
GoofsterStud
Member
I don't know what to believe...
Though after IGN's high rated Silent Hill HD... I am not sure they even play the games they review....
:-/
Though after IGN's high rated Silent Hill HD... I am not sure they even play the games they review....
:-/
Only thing that has me realllyyy concerned is the whole losing momentum thing when you jump. I hope it isn't as bad as it sounds. I really want a demo, Sega pls
Not every review is by one person.
Not every review is by one person.
About that iGN review , i had the same feelings about the controls... In the first hours of the game, then i get used to it and i had lot of fun.
When he describes the snowball part, i had the same issue.. Til i figure out how it was meant to play.
The game is quite hard and there's almost no handholding..
... Just like The Wonderful 101....
IGN is for babieeesss
When he describes the snowball part, i had the same issue.. Til i figure out how it was meant to play.
The game is quite hard and there's almost no handholding..
... Just like The Wonderful 101....
IGN is for babieeesss
As a fan of this franchise, I've grown pretty numb to review scores. Perhaps too numb. It wouldn't make a difference to me if it was a 2.8. Sonic and The Black Knight is one I did avoid however, I just fucking knew that game would be abysmal from the get go. I eventually got to try it, and wasn't surprised by how bad it was.
I did watch and read the review, and it sounds like to me he has his own idea of what a Sonic game should be and refused to learn or accept any new mechanics which is a shame.
That's not to say the game is not legitimately bad, it very well may be (I'll see for myself). But IGN is usually really bad at pointing out why games are bad. Like, "Lack of speed", for example. They didn't really explain why this is bad outside of backing the notion that, SONIC IS SUPPOSED TO GO BLAZING FAST. Which is funny because in his best games, he's not even that fast (in retrospect).
I did watch and read the review, and it sounds like to me he has his own idea of what a Sonic game should be and refused to learn or accept any new mechanics which is a shame.
That's not to say the game is not legitimately bad, it very well may be (I'll see for myself). But IGN is usually really bad at pointing out why games are bad. Like, "Lack of speed", for example. They didn't really explain why this is bad outside of backing the notion that, SONIC IS SUPPOSED TO GO BLAZING FAST. Which is funny because in his best games, he's not even that fast (in retrospect).
Box of Bunnies
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Alternatively, I can't figure out why people would give any weight to Eurogamer reviews after one of their writers described the pointer aiming in Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition as "a wobbly, fuzzy experience, compared to the precision of the previous versions of the game" but this thread is supposed to be about the actual reviews of Sonic Lost World and their content, not driveby shots at the publications.
Hmm. I've been really concerned about how stiff Sonic seemingly controls and lack of momentum since we started seeing gameplay. I don't think it's speed per say that the reviewer doesn't like (he thinks that's what it is however) but how mechanical Sonic is in conjunction with his non existent inertia and momentum. I suppose level design plays a part, but it's not the core issue, I'd imagine.
If you straight up took the Mario Galaxy physics but made the faster, it would probably feel more like Sonic, Sonic Team hasn't understood the whole momentum concept for YEARS now, and it's biting them in the ass harder than usual with a more complex control setup.
I'll be surprised what Jim Sterling says, if he reviews this one. He didn't seem to like Colors, but he liked Generations.
I'm going to wait personally until a lot of reviews come in to get a good idea if this is at least a quality offering. It's possible I might have to rent this one before I jump in and buy it. I myself wasn't a huge fan of Colors.
I'm going to wait personally until a lot of reviews come in to get a good idea if this is at least a quality offering. It's possible I might have to rent this one before I jump in and buy it. I myself wasn't a huge fan of Colors.
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Deleted member 125677
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There is a demo on the eshop?
It was more a commentary on why people put so much weight on reviews. Off your high horse.
According to nintendo australia its up tonight or tomorrow.
My colleague really liked the Wii U version, really hated the 3DS version though.
Gamereactor Spain:
Sonic Lost World Wii U - 8/10
Sonic Lost World 3DS - 5/10
Gamereactor Spain:
Sonic Lost World Wii U - 8/10
Sonic Lost World 3DS - 5/10
Box of Bunnies
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You didn't say "why do people put so much weight on reviews" (in which case, why are you in the review thread?), you said "that reviewer sucks, you plebes. I'll wait for this one." Waiting to try the demo for yourself is fine, but you can't try and act like you're above reviews while simultaneously giving credit to one.
I'll dismount after you.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Thank you. I'll translate a bit more of the text and add them to the OP.
Danke.
Stephen Stills
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Exactly. Look at their Wonderful 101 review and then tell me with a straight face that they are capable of understanding and evaluating any videogame that isn't the usual AAA trash.
I was originally more interested in this game than 3D World. However, with some of the new screens of that game, it has definitely grown on me. Personally I understand that Sonic games are always going to be flawed but fun experiences. Many of my favorite Sega games are that way.
Our reviewer liked it (only translated the conclusion):
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_gsy_review_sonic_lost_world-14742_en.html
5 60 fps videos to go along with the text
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_gsy_review_sonic_lost_world-14742_en.html
5 60 fps videos to go along with the text
Good scores, except the 3DS version, though I'm not surprised. Dimps seems to forget good game design half of the times when they design a Sonic game... that whole part about trying to make the game lengthy in wrong ways sounds worrying. Senseless padding :/
Why did IGN get to post their review an hour early? Ugh.
My review is live at Digital Chumps http://digitalchumps.com/game-reviews/159-nintendo-wii-u/11086-sonic-lost-world.html 5.6/10
edit: my copy had a code for the Nights DLC but, as of an hour ago, it still wasn't up. Still really curious to see what that is.
My review is live at Digital Chumps http://digitalchumps.com/game-reviews/159-nintendo-wii-u/11086-sonic-lost-world.html 5.6/10
edit: my copy had a code for the Nights DLC but, as of an hour ago, it still wasn't up. Still really curious to see what that is.
MemoryHumanity
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Nintendo Life
Wii U - 7/10
http://www.nintendolife.com/reviews/wiiu/sonic_lost_world
3DS - 5/10
http://www.nintendolife.com/reviews/3ds/sonic_lost_world
Wii U - 7/10
http://www.nintendolife.com/reviews/wiiu/sonic_lost_world
3DS - 5/10
http://www.nintendolife.com/reviews/3ds/sonic_lost_world
On IGN reviews. Not reviews in general. I'm not looking at this thread with expectations of a certain score, I'm looking at it with open eyes to see what trustworthy review outlets who write considered opinions and reviews say. Places like Eurogamer, Edge, giantbomb, and not IGN.
You can miss the context all you like, but that's all I was saying.
See above. For reviews from reputable outlets.
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Deleted member 125677
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Sorry but Keza is a wonderful reviewer, be it AAA or not.
OrbitalBeard
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Reviews are all over the place so far, as expected.
Doesn't phase me at all. Still excited to play.
Doesn't phase me at all. Still excited to play.
poopninjamvc3mk
I sucked six dicks to get this tag.
I gotta wait for other reviews because so far all I heard him whining in that vid review heard was him whining about the slower speed then he says the level design is bad...because it won't give me dat speed. The on rails speed section is maybe a valid complaint I guess but sonic always has those moments tbh. Other than that the gameplay looked solid. Gonna wait for other reviews.
Funny thing is:
Funny thing is:
I don't even own a Wii U yet
Oh, god. I remembered now the complain about controls for W101. And now this. IGN doesn't know how to play games confirmed.
Actually since most of their Nintendo section left the quality of their Nintendo related articles and reviews dropped dramatically.
Wii U confirmed to be a platform for the hardcore players. That is the ones that can play a harder game. lol
That summary sounds like every single 3D Sonic game ever made. Was hoping this one would be better but I think it will still be fun.
Rabid-Coot
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Box of Bunnies
Banned
How are Eurogamer a reputable outlet worthy of being put above anyone else when they have a history of factual inaccuracies and misrepresentation in their reviews?
Actually, never mind. Don't want to shit this thread up with AusGAF Achievementgate 2.0.
The EDGE reviews are usually great, but this one reads like the game was almost (is this possible?) too hard for him.