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[WillyFive]

It's so weird.

It's the exact same feeling as for a huge new super anticipated game up in here. People are posting reviews, awaiting more reviews with anticipation, discussing every tidbit of the review for more info to see if it includes what you expected it to, and being extremely stimulated by the upcoming release.

Except everybody here is expecting it to suck instead of it being awesome.

It's a bizarro world that feels like home at the same time.

 

[dark10x]

i don't know about that man. the third act on the casino stage is rife with them. as is the labyrinth zone stage... and splash hill or whatever it's called..

nah, the game has a lot more bottomless pits than the classic sonic games. plus, many instances in which you have to traverse them with enemy bridges.

I just ran through two Splash Zone acts purposely looking for bottomless pits and did not find any. If there are any, they are not obvious and most people should never run into them. Every pit I jumped down lead to a lower section of the level. Sometimes it would just pop you back up with a spring board, but there was always a bottom.

The third casino zone does, in fact, have some bottomless pits (particularly right at the end), but it's still not bursting with them.

There are fewer of them here than in Sonic Rush.

 

[To Far Away Times]

It's so weird.

It's the exact same feeling as for a huge new super anticipated game up in here. People are posting reviews, awaiting more reviews with anticipation, discussing every tidbit of the review for more info to see if it includes what you expected it to, and being extremely stimulated by the upcoming release.

Except everybody here is expecting it to suck instead of it being awesome.

It's a bizarro world that feels like home at the same time.

Gotta love Sonic threads. Sega worked hard for us to get to this point though.

 

[btkadams]

It's so weird.

It's the exact same feeling as for a huge new super anticipated game up in here. People are posting reviews, awaiting more reviews with anticipation, discussing every tidbit of the review for more info to see if it includes what you expected it to, and being extremely stimulated by the upcoming release.

Except everybody here is expecting it to suck instead of it being awesome.

It's a bizarro world that feels like home at the same time.

the ign review confirmed my purchase to be honest. i think the game looks fun, but i am also disappointed with it being so short and easy. i know ill replay it a bunch though for trophies so i'm not complaining too much. i think people like to jump on the hate-bandwagon too easily.

and once again, i think the lock on attack thing is a nice addition. i liked it in the 3d sonic games (when it worked and didnt throw me out of a level). each genesis sonic brought something new so that part i find is natural.

 

[I AM JOHN!]

and once again, i think the lock on attack thing is a nice addition.

Good to know I never have to listen to anything you have to say about anything ever again. :X

 

[TL4E]

It's so weird.

It's the exact same feeling as for a huge new super anticipated game up in here. People are posting reviews, awaiting more reviews with anticipation, discussing every tidbit of the review for more info to see if it includes what you expected it to, and being extremely stimulated by the upcoming release.

Except everybody here is expecting it to suck instead of it being awesome.

It's a bizarro world that feels like home at the same time.

Maybe you're just projecting your own excitement toward this thread.

But really, this is the supposed sequel to S&K. How can it not be subject to much scrutiny and speculation?

 

[btkadams]

Good to know I never have to listen to anything you have to say about anything ever again. :X

:lol

 

[andymcc]

I just ran through two Splash Zone acts purposely looking for bottomless pits and did not find any. If there are any, they are not obvious and most people should never run into them. Every pit I jumped down lead to a lower section of the level. Sometimes it would just pop you back up with a spring board, but there was always a bottom.

The third casino zone does, in fact, have some bottomless pits (particularly right at the end), but it's still not bursting with them.

There are fewer of them here than in Sonic Rush.

splash hill zone act 3 has this sweet part where you have to use an enemy bridge otherwise you fall to a bottomless pit. it's not an optional or "not obvious" part, it's a section you have to complete in order to get to the signpost to beat the stage.

i'm not trying to say it has more or on the same level as sonic rush, i'm just trying to point out the fact that the amount of bottomless pits in this game is way more than what you'd encounter in a classic sonic game.

 

[I AM JOHN!]

Note to Hillary: Sonic 4 is as much as classic Sonic game as GTA4 is as much an Oscar-worthy feat of writing. Just saying!

 

[Mama Robotnik]

Note to Hillary: Sonic 4 is as much as classic Sonic game as GTA4 is as much an Oscar-worthy feat of writing. Just saying!

Oh god, is he the bloke who said that!? Well, this review's worthless.

 

[goldenpp72]

How many positive reviews will it take before you people shut the fuck up?

"oh god HE reviewed it? LOLZ SHIT GAME"

5 reviews later

"I personally know each and every one of those reviewers, lol retards shit homing attack omg'

 

[Mama Robotnik]

How many positive reviews will it take before you people shut the fuck up?

I'm eager to see Edge, Eurogamer, GamesTM and Yahtzee personally. Get some of them, you've got a positive reception to be proud of.

(Except Yahtzee, who you win if he just hates it less).

 

[Brannon]

I need to do what this comic says. I know I do. I MUST.

But Sega, they makes it so hard, you know?

Sega.

 

[riceandbeans]

Note to Hillary: Sonic 4 is as much as classic Sonic game as GTA4 is as much an Oscar-worthy feat of writing. Just saying!

Well, Sonic 4 does rip off the zones and bosses from Sonic 1 and 2...

No mention of Super Sonic upping the replay value? That's a pretty big miss right there other than mentioning finding different paths.

Honestly, the game doesn't look terrible. Unoriginal? Yeah. Less challenging to represent for a more casual crowd That too. But it doesn't look like a bad game. And all this is starting to remind me of the Enslaved demo thread :lol

 

[btkadams]

Well, Sonic 4 does rip off the zones and bosses from Sonic 1 and 2...

No mention of Super Sonic upping the replay value? That's a pretty big miss right there other than mentioning finding different paths.

Honestly, the game doesn't look terrible. Unoriginal? Yeah. Less challenging to represent for a more casual crowd That too. But it doesn't look like a bad game. And all this is starting to remind me of the Enslaved demo thread :lol

wait, theres super sonic in this game??

 

[clav]

wait, theres super sonic in this game??

Yep. Collect all 7 and you can morph.

 

[btkadams]

Yep. Collect all 7 and you can morph.

that's sick!

 

[clav]

that's sick!

Meh.

http://imgur.com/hbgR9.png
by Hilary Goldstein. the same guy who did the Unleashed review for HD platforms.

http://xboxlive.ign.com/articles/112/1126734p1.html

You even take a ride on a crazy mine cart at one point.

O_O

Let's not forget: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qomm9W0vktg

So the only level that SEGA took out in the console version was the Casino Nights Act 2 level and replaced it with cards?

*facepalm*

The whole review sounds like a disappointment. Aside from the cards level, the review describes levels exactly like the build leaked months ago.

I like it how none of you fans are going to comment on this because it hurts.

 

[btkadams]

Meh.

some might call it.....classic sonic.

 

[Peff]

Honestly, the game doesn't look terrible. Unoriginal? Yeah. Less challenging to represent for a more casual crowd That too. But it doesn't look like a bad game. And all this is starting to remind me of the Enslaved demo thread :lol

It's the same argument that went on and on and on and on and on in the other thread and has bled into here, and it's not even a real argument!

- This looks like Sonic Rush HD...
- But it also looks like a decent game
- Sure, just not the one I want and Sega promised
- But it's going to be enjoyable, not broken like other Sonic games.
- Sure, but it's not the game I wanted to play.
- But it's going to be enjoyable, not broken like other Sonic games.
- Sure, but it's not the game I wanted to play.
- But it's going to be enjoyable, not broken like other Sonic games.
- Sure, but it's not the game I wanted to play.
(Repeat ad nauseum).

It's honestly a bit annoying at this point :lol

 

[clav]

some might call it.....classic sonic.

You mean Sonic Advance 4.

 

[DR2K]

How many positive reviews will it take before you people shut the fuck up?

Getting off the Sonic Cycle wasn't going to be an easy transition, we all knew this day would come.

 

[TimmiT]

O_O

Let's not forget: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qomm9W0vktg

So the only level that SEGA took out in the console version was the Casino Nights Act 2 level and replaced it with cards?

*facepalm*

The whole review sounds like a disappointment. Aside from the cards level, the review describes levels exactly like the build leaked months ago.

They replaced the original Lost Labyrinth act 2. The new version still has a minecart in it, but you don't use it for the entire level.

 

[Hitlersaurus Christ]

Meh.







I like it how none of you fans are going to comment on this because it hurts.

The mine cart stage was removed. The replacement stage has minecarts IN it, which is probably what he was talking about.
That's also a pretty shitty review to be honest.

EDIT: Beaten like Sega beats its fans

 

[Lan_97]

Meh.

Hey. Hating on Sonic 4 is lame now. Stop it.

 

[clav]

They replaced the original Lost Labyrinth act 2. The new version still has a minecart in it, but you don't use it for the entire level.

The mine cart stage was removed. The replacement stage has minecarts IN it, which is probably what he was talking about.
That's also a pretty shitty review to be honest.

EDIT: Beaten like Sega beats its fans

Would like to see a video of it because really that mine cart stage is fucking horrible.

 

[riceandbeans]

It's the same argument that went on and on and on and on and on in the other thread and has bled into here, and it's not even a real argument!

- This looks like Sonic Rush HD...
- But it also looks like a decent game
- Sure, just not the one I want and Sega promised
- But it's going to be enjoyable, not broken like other Sonic games.
- Sure, but it's not the game I wanted to play.
- But it's going to be enjoyable, not broken like other Sonic games.
- Sure, but it's not the game I wanted to play.
- But it's going to be enjoyable, not broken like other Sonic games.
- Sure, but it's not the game I wanted to play.
(Repeat ad nauseum).

It's honestly a bit annoying at this point :lol

I'm not trying to start an argument, that's just my opinion.

 

[Peff]

I'm not trying to start an argument, that's just my opinion.

Not singling you out, it's just that it's silly because when both sides are right there's not much of a point to the argument to begin with It'll probably happen in the LttP threads too.

 

[Catalix]

It's the same argument that went on and on and on and on and on in the other thread and has bled into here, and it's not even a real argument!

- This looks like Sonic Rush HD...
- But it also looks like a decent game
- Sure, just not the one I want and Sega promised
- But it's going to be enjoyable, not broken like other Sonic games.
- Sure, but it's not the game I wanted to play.
- But it's going to be enjoyable, not broken like other Sonic games.
- Sure, but it's not the game I wanted to play.
- But it's going to be enjoyable, not broken like other Sonic games.
- Sure, but it's not the game I wanted to play.
(Repeat ad nauseum).

It's honestly a bit annoying at this point :lol

eh, debatable.

 

[Lan_97]

Not singling you out, it's just that it's silly because when both sides are right there's not much of a point to the argument to begin with It'll probably happen in the LttP threads too.

Well, to be fair the defense in the past couple of pages went from "it's the beta version" to "wait for hd graphics" and finally to "it's like sonic rush, deal with it." The complaints are largely the same mainly from the high standards Sega put on the game by tagging 4 on the end.

They should have just released the game in the summer with less classic fanfare and called it Sonic Remix Rush. Of course, they make a ton more money the way they actually did it, and only aggravate the vocal minority.

 

[I AM JOHN!]

Honestly, the game doesn't look terrible. Unoriginal? Yeah. Less challenging to represent for a more casual crowd That too. But it doesn't look like a bad game. And all this is starting to remind me of the Enslaved demo thread :lol

Honestly, it doesn't look like a bad game. Just like GTA4 - which as stupid as that Oscar-worthy comment is, I still think it's an interesting, strongly-written game for the most part - I'm sure that for what it is, Sonic 4 will be decently entertaining if that's what you're looking for.

But it's still not Sonic 4 or anything remotely like what we were promised.

 

[The Technomancer]

eh, debatable.

Its slower then Rush, and has been compared to Advance 1. And while most fans agree that Advance 1 wasn't classic gameplay, it was at least fun.

 

[RobbieNick]

It's the same argument that went on and on and on and on and on in the other thread and has bled into here, and it's not even a real argument!

- This looks like Sonic Rush HD...
- But it also looks like a decent game
- Sure, just not the one I want and Sega promised
- But it's going to be enjoyable, not broken like other Sonic games.
- Sure, but it's not the game I wanted to play.
- But it's going to be enjoyable, not broken like other Sonic games.
- Sure, but it's not the game I wanted to play.
- But it's going to be enjoyable, not broken like other Sonic games.
- Sure, but it's not the game I wanted to play.
(Repeat ad nauseum).

It's honestly a bit annoying at this point :lol

This is the main point GAF needs to deal with. There a TON of people, both fans and in the media who are enjoying this game. Just because it doesn't meet YOUR expectations doesn't mean it's not a good game.

Also, Sonic and Sega All-Stars Racing got great reviews as well. Sonic Colors looks to be the best Sonic game in years with every leak of it looking better and better. What this means is........

The cycle is broken.

Sonic is back and having his best year in over a decade.

Deal with it.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

The worst part of the review is when Goldstein says Sonic was king of platformers.

Uhh, that was never the case Hilary.

 

[Brannon]

The cycle is broken.

Sonic is back and having his best year in over a decade.

Deal with it.

True, somehow, some way, Sega crossed so far over to shit that it wrapped back around to 'good enough to sell'. It must've been their plan the entire time. Those bastards!

 

[Mama Robotnik]

The cycle is broken.

Unleashed got some positive reviews, which I'm sure are regretted as most tend to look back at the game as terrible. If we get some positive reviews from sites that actually matter (Edge, GamesTM, Eurogamer) then we'll talk.

Sonic is back and having his best year in over a decade.

A racing spinoff, an iPhone game renamed Sonic 4 and upscaled to consoles with broken physics, and a 3D game that appears to have learned nothing and has a whole legion of new shitty little friends does not in any way equal Sonic "is back".

Deal with it.

I'll be happy to deal with Sonic's return when I see it. Indeed, I will embrace it. A brilliant Sonic game, at least up to the standards set by the previous games, would be a great day. Today however, does not appear to be that day.

 

[DeVeAn]

This is the main point GAF needs to deal with. There a TON of people, both fans and in the media who are enjoying this game. Just because it doesn't meet YOUR expectations doesn't mean it's not a good game.

Also, Sonic and Sega All-Stars Racing got great reviews as well. Sonic Colors looks to be the best Sonic game in years with every leak of it looking better and better. What this means is........

The cycle is broken.

Sonic is back and having his best year in over a decade.

Deal with it.

Amen.

 

[Lan_97]

If Sonic 4 breaks the cycle, then the cycle was broken by Rush, Rush Adventure, Secret Rings, and Unleashed.

 

[RobbieNick]

If Sonic 4 breaks the cycle, then the cycle was broken by Rush, Rush Adventure, Secret Rings, and Unleashed.

Works for me!

I dug all those games.

 

[andymcc]

This is the main point GAF needs to deal with. There a TON of people, both fans and in the media who are enjoying this game. Just because it doesn't meet YOUR expectations doesn't mean it's not a good game.

Also, Sonic and Sega All-Stars Racing got great reviews as well. Sonic Colors looks to be the best Sonic game in years with every leak of it looking better and better. What this means is........

The cycle is broken.

Sonic is back and having his best year in over a decade.

Deal with it.

how much is sega paying you to post on gaf?

 

[clav]

Works for me!

I dug all those games.

"Because I like it, everyone must like it. STOP HATING BECAUSE I LIKE IT. WAAHHHH"

When you say stuff like "Deal with it," listen to yourself. Deal with the haters' criticisms then.

The haters have a legitimate reason to not like it since it doesn't play like original games. Do you not agree that SEGA lied to that fanbase who wanted a game that plays like a successor?

 

[ThatObviousUser]

a 3D game that appears to have learned nothing and has a whole legion of new shitty little friends does not in any way equal Sonic "is back".

Eh those things are more like powerups. The game looks fun and polished MR, and it's not trying to be something it isn't which I respect too.

 

[To Far Away Times]

Getting off the Sonic Cycle wasn't going to be an easy transition, we all knew this day would come.

A poorly named Sonic Advance game will not be the game that breaks the cycle.

 

[Catalix]

The cycle is broken.

For you, maybe. I think Colors looks promising, though.

Sonic is back and having his best year in over a decade.

Your standards for this franchise are incredibly low.

 

[RobbieNick]

"Because I like it, everyone must like it. STOP HATING BECAUSE I LIKE IT. WAAHHHH"

When you say stuff like "Deal with it," listen to yourself. Deal with the haters' criticisms then.

The haters have a legitimate reason to not like it since it doesn't play with the original. Do you not agree that SEGA lied to that fanbase who wanted a game that plays like a successor?

It DOES play like it's predecessors though. That's part of the point. It's a throwback game that adds some new twists instead of playing exactly like it's old counterparts. Yea, it plays more like an homage than a direct sequel, but that doesn't keep it from being fun.

IGN Video review is up for 360 version 8.0

http://www.ign.com/videos/2010/10/08/sonic-the-hedgehog-4-episode-i-video-review?objectid=31451

"Sonic purists might find a few things to nitpick about, but those purists should just play the original trilogy instead."

Your standards for this franchise are incredibly low.

Maybe your standards are too exact and specific. Maybe you want things a certain way and if they stray from that norm a tiny bit, it's considered a disaster.

 

[WillyFive]

Wait till most of the reviews are out before we decide on Sonic 4's adherence to the Sonic Cycle.

 

[Sir_Crocodile]

It DOES play like it's predecessors though. That's part of the point. It's a throwback game that adds some new twists instead of playing exactly like it's old counterparts. Yea, it plays more like an homage than a direct sequel, but that doesn't keep it from being fun.

IGN Video review is up for 360 version 8.0

http://www.ign.com/videos/2010/10/08/sonic-the-hedgehog-4-episode-i-video-review?objectid=31451

"Sonic purists might find a few things to nitpick about, but those purists should just play the original trilogy instead."

What's the new twist, the lack of momentum or the floaty jumping?

 

[clav]

Yea, it plays more like an homage than a direct sequel

So it's not what the fans wanted.

 

[Android18a]

I just downloaded this for my iPod Touch (yeah, I know..)

Anyway, when I choose New Game, it goes to a loading screen, but then fades to black and quits the game...

Hmmm.

 

[RobbieNick]

Wait till most of the reviews are out before we decide on Sonic 4's adherence to the Sonic Cycle.

You're right. We should all calm down until more reviews are up and we've had a chance to play the HD versions or Wii versions at least. (Willy105 the voice of reason. Who knew?)