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Coldman, you're special. You make me laugh a ton with your charming British humour. You also know about streaming MM at >1fps.
Koko's special too, and I suspect she knows a ton about PSO.
Like, I guess I'd specialize in RPGs in general--T/SRPGs, Turn-based-RPGs, ARPGs, western RPGs (well, older ones before this gen), roguelikes, MUDs (hey, they count!), Japanese RPGs, some KRPGs, etc. But there are definitely people on GAF who know more about RPGs than I do, or who concentrate on other aspects (like story and philosophy) more than I do (because I concentrate more on balancing and systems, exploits, timing, growth, min/maxing, etc). I import too, so...
Maybe video game music, though--once again--other people on GAF can have me beat on some bits of it, even if I go all out and write long posts about video game music in general. Same goes for localizations/languages/linguistics; though the subject was one of my majors, I feel like I learn a lot from other people on GAF who also have an interest in the subject as well.
I'd love to say that I specialize in platformers, but that's not true, despite the genre being my bread and butter when I was younger (and being the genre that got me into games to begin with). I love these games a lot, but I think everyone else in this thread has got me beat with respect to the genre in general!
Koko's special too, and I suspect she knows a ton about PSO.
Nah, just stick with what you know! Almost everyone in this thread to some extent likes Nintendo (and even if they don't now, it's only because of the company's crummy business and design decisions). There's always gonna be someone who knows a little more than you, or knows more about certain aspects of a series than you do, and that's perfectly okay. The same could be said about GAF in general. (For reference, the person I named as a Mario guy is a lurker, but I feel like he's part of SonicGAF anyway.)
Like, I guess I'd specialize in RPGs in general--T/SRPGs, Turn-based-RPGs, ARPGs, western RPGs (well, older ones before this gen), roguelikes, MUDs (hey, they count!), Japanese RPGs, some KRPGs, etc. But there are definitely people on GAF who know more about RPGs than I do, or who concentrate on other aspects (like story and philosophy) more than I do (because I concentrate more on balancing and systems, exploits, timing, growth, min/maxing, etc). I import too, so...
Maybe video game music, though--once again--other people on GAF can have me beat on some bits of it, even if I go all out and write long posts about video game music in general. Same goes for localizations/languages/linguistics; though the subject was one of my majors, I feel like I learn a lot from other people on GAF who also have an interest in the subject as well.
I'd love to say that I specialize in platformers, but that's not true, despite the genre being my bread and butter when I was younger (and being the genre that got me into games to begin with). I love these games a lot, but I think everyone else in this thread has got me beat with respect to the genre in general!
Hot Coldman
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Professor Beef
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Purplemage
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I really should post on this board more often, considering it's the only place I can mention that I have a Sonic the Hedgehog half sleeve. (work in progress, not colored in) It's based off of the cover from Sonic 3.
Can't wait to have it colored in.
On a more on topic note, I've ran through Generations on the 360 and loved it, is the 3ds version worth picking up?
Can't wait to have it colored in.
On a more on topic note, I've ran through Generations on the 360 and loved it, is the 3ds version worth picking up?
Hot Coldman
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Noooooope. Whatever you do, don't play Generations 3DS.
Meh, trying to watch them all is annoying because there's so much. I just read/watch the ones that I'm interested in.
Based on the footage I've seen, I guess you could call it "Sonic Rush 3DS with Terrible Level Design." I mean, yeesh.
I'm sure that someone who's actually played it will be able to give you a more nuanced opinion than that.
It's a shame to see the activity in the Simpsons thread die down as much as it has. It was probably my favorite place to lurk!
DICKS AHOY
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Generations on 3DS is pretty much "Sonic Rush hastily made in about 9 months with most levels layouts ripped directly out of their respective games".Isn't Generations on 3DS pretty much "Sonic Rush 3DS"?
I haven't played the "real" generations, but based on the PC demo I don't love the modern Sonic parts. Which makes me want to play the 3DS version instead
Avoid it, it's far worse than the Sonic Team-made version.
tiggerkiddo
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Don't forget the Advance games. They're still pretty fun and you get a much more varied amount of zones.
I have a very limited history with Sonic. My first Sonic game ever was Sonic Mega Collection on GameCube, which I briefly borrowed from a friend. My favorite game was actually Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine, lol, but that's because I already was familiar with Puyo. The Sonic games I liked the most were the first 3 on Genesis and Sonic 3D Blast - Sonic 1 being my favorite, actually, it feels the most like a regular platformer. I played a bit of Sonic Advance and I enjoyed it a lot if I remember correctly, and then I have played and loved... both Sonic racers by Sumo
Then recently I bought Sonic Tripe Trouble and I found it rather enjoyable, and it sparked my interested in more classic 2D Sonic goodness. So I downloaded the Sonic Generations demo on PC and was strongly discouraged by the modern Sonic part. So yeah, I want to buy either Colors DS or Rush 1. Probably Colors DS since I think it was precisely Sciz who told me it was slower and platform-ier than Rush.
BTW I downloaded the Sonic CD demo on Android and I love the music and visuals, and it seems like regular classic Sonic. I might have to buy that on PC. And I was hoping Lost World on 3DS would be strictly 2D, no luck it seems
Then recently I bought Sonic Tripe Trouble and I found it rather enjoyable, and it sparked my interested in more classic 2D Sonic goodness. So I downloaded the Sonic Generations demo on PC and was strongly discouraged by the modern Sonic part. So yeah, I want to buy either Colors DS or Rush 1. Probably Colors DS since I think it was precisely Sciz who told me it was slower and platform-ier than Rush.
BTW I downloaded the Sonic CD demo on Android and I love the music and visuals, and it seems like regular classic Sonic. I might have to buy that on PC. And I was hoping Lost World on 3DS would be strictly 2D, no luck it seems
Professor Beef
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Hot Coldman
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For those new to the thread, the usual initiation process involves gifting me a game on Steam. I will judge your worthiness for the group based on the quality of your chosen gift.
Choosing Sonic games will be seen as pandering and you will be turned away at the Post Reply button.
Choosing Sonic games will be seen as pandering and you will be turned away at the Post Reply button.
tiggerkiddo
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Don't listen to Coldman's lies
To be precise, it is slower than Rush because it borrows the boost and wisp mechanics directly from Colors Wii. You just don't have enough energy to boost through a whole level until you know it pretty well, and wisps add a lot of complexity to the design that Rush just didn't have.
Shadow Hog
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Y'know, I'd never considered myself as specializing in retro software, but thinking about it, that's pegged me pretty accurately.
Not that I don't enjoy the odd new game here and there.
Oh wow that looks bad.
Arc Christelle
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Dafuq you doing here? Hurry up and leave with the rest of the vets so I can whip this place into shape.
I offer the greatest gift of all.
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I do Fighting (not just Street Fighter), Sonic, Arcade (Capcom/SNK/Konami), Treasure, Platinum, and Nintendo abuse. Anything with some good/interesting mechanics qualifies for a good time.
MVC2 mindset = Kill by any means necessary, there's no such thing as balance, but there is a such thing as boring.
As for Sonic, I literally grew up with the blue fucker, even analyzed his "cool" into a science.
Speaking of which.... This less edgier direction is starting to bum me out... Sonic's supposed to mix both color and edge, now it's just abandoning the edge. I don't like that.
On another note: Anybody here liked Castlevania Judgement? (as a fighting game)
I felt Castlevania Judgement was a fun game with amazing music. But as a fighter it lacks balance and depth, and it indeed get quite button-mashy at times. Gameplay needed a ton of work, but I appreciate it for being a decently fun, experimental game. Cube Controller all the way, BTW.
Also, as I mentioned I'm not really a big Sonic fan and haven't been exposed to his games a lot, especially not while growing up - but I can totally relate to the people who think classic Sonic looked much better.
Not that I think modern Sonic is disgraceful looking, but it's a pretty huge step down from classic Sonic indeed. In my opinion, of course Would you people be okay with "Classic Sonic" being a sub-series consisting only of 2D Sonic, while 3D Sonic games keep using modern Sonic? Lol, you've probably talked about this to death before.
Also, as I mentioned I'm not really a big Sonic fan and haven't been exposed to his games a lot, especially not while growing up - but I can totally relate to the people who think classic Sonic looked much better.
Not that I think modern Sonic is disgraceful looking, but it's a pretty huge step down from classic Sonic indeed. In my opinion, of course
Would you people be okay with "Classic Sonic" being a sub-series consisting only of 2D Sonic, while 3D Sonic games keep using modern Sonic? Lol, you've probably talked about this to death before.tiggerkiddo
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Gamecube controller is amazingly good.
Purplemage
Neo Member
Dang, there goes Sonic CD as an option. Whats the opposite of a Sonic game then? A slow, tedious, non linear game? And sadly my friend you caught me at the beginning of the month so all those fun fun fun bills have taken all my monies.
It's good to have other Sonic enthusiasts to chat with, I'd love to show a picture of my tat when it's done so you can all pick it apart and make me feel like hot garbage. Ehh, at least the girlfriend likes it.
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Also, fat sonic is the best sonic.
Arc Christelle
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I felt Castlevania Judgement was a fun game with amazing music. But as a fighter it lacks balance and depth, and it indeed get quite button-mashy at times. Gameplay needed a ton of work, but I appreciate it for being a decently fun, experimental game. Cube Controller all the way, BTW.
Also, as I mentioned I'm not really a big Sonic fan and haven't been exposed to his games a lot, especially not while growing up - but I can totally relate to the people who think classic Sonic looked much better.
Not that I think modern Sonic is disgraceful looking, but it's a pretty huge step down from classic Sonic indeed. In my opinion, of course
I thought it was decent outside of Dracula, I kinda liked the creative depth it had once you dug deep into the system to make some nonsense. (Holy Water on the Wall spam juggles, etc) Despite the Belmont's range the only character who truly got on my nerves was Maria.... she was the definition of OP. I'd love to see a sequel though. and yes, that game is made for GCN Controllers.
As for Classic vs Modern.... Modern Sonic's the best Sonic. There's no way in hell Classic could sell 3 bad-mediocre games and remain relevant.
To be more precise, I perfer the Dreamcast Yuji Uekawa vector style. It was progressive at the time, and managed to contain the vibe of color meets cool/edgy that Sonic had. Now, we just get CG Sonic. While I'd love to get more openings like Sonic Unleashed/Riders ZG and would like to explore those worlds in an actual mainstream Sonic (Which I'm kinda disappointed they decided not to use one of those narratives - Babylon/Blaze Dimension).
If I'm not mistaken, Modern Sonic's design exists because of the move to the 3D space. Sonic Team at the time wasn't too happy at how Sonic looked in 3D, so they redesigned him.
So yeah, I'll be perfectly okay with this.
Also, I like Classic more. Nothing against Modern Sonic (the redesign grew on me)... I just prefer Sonic being short.
He's really Cold Hotman all along!
Yes.
Followed by DS3 and 360 controller. Nothing melts into the hands quite like the GC controller does.
sonic
I'm fine with modern Sonic but classic is and always will be the best.
tiggerkiddo
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BlazeHedgehog
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Shame I can't link it here, but there's a new release of Sonic 3 Complete out now and it is pretty sweet.
Sonic 3 Complete started, from what I remember, as a project to finish up that "Sonic 3+" concept Sega had - basically S3&K all together on one cartridge. There were prototype ROMs of that floating around a couple years ago.
Sonic 3 Complete goes a step further and is a general enhancement project for Sonic 3 that does all kinds of nifty stuff. For example, in the most recent release...
Unfortunately, the place you can get it from doesn't really force its users to distribute IPS patches or anything anymore so... y'know.
But it's super cool. If Sega ever gets around to porting Sonic 3 somewhere, they really need to match this feature set.
Sonic 3 Complete started, from what I remember, as a project to finish up that "Sonic 3+" concept Sega had - basically S3&K all together on one cartridge. There were prototype ROMs of that floating around a couple years ago.
Sonic 3 Complete goes a step further and is a general enhancement project for Sonic 3 that does all kinds of nifty stuff. For example, in the most recent release...
- You can enable the "Tails Assist" option from Sonic 1 iOS, so you can give Tails the order to airlift you if you are playing as Sonic.
- You have your choice of Sonic 1, 2, or Sonic 3 sprites.
- Control type options to mimic Sonic 1, 2, 3, CD or "MAX CONTROL", which is all of the control abilities all at once.
- There's an option to use Genesis-ized versions of the songs from S&K Collection on PC
- A whole mess of other music options, including when to use Sonic 3-specific music, when to use S&K-specific music, and if you want to incorporate classic theme music from Sonic 1 and 2.
- You can move Flying Battery back to its original Sonic 3 position (between Carnival Night and Ice Cap)
- You can rename Mushroom Hill back to Mushroom Valley
- A mile-long list of bug fixes to improve collision detection and such.
- And much, much more!
Unfortunately, the place you can get it from doesn't really force its users to distribute IPS patches or anything anymore so... y'know.
But it's super cool. If Sega ever gets around to porting Sonic 3 somewhere, they really need to match this feature set.
tiggerkiddo
Member
Give me Sonic 2 with the removed levels.
BlazeHedgehog
Member
There's a few hacks that do that but a lot of them require the hackers to generate new level layouts for stages that weren't completely done
And most hackers are not the greatest level designers
Shame I can't link it here, but there's a new release of Sonic 3 Complete out now and it is pretty sweet.
Sonic 3 Complete started, from what I remember, as a project to finish up that "Sonic 3+" concept Sega had - basically S3&K all together on one cartridge. There were prototype ROMs of that floating around a couple years ago.
Sonic 3 Complete goes a step further and is a general enhancement project for Sonic 3 that does all kinds of nifty stuff. For example, in the most recent release...
- You can enable the "Tails Assist" option from Sonic 1 iOS, so you can give Tails the order to airlift you if you are playing as Sonic.
- You have your choice of Sonic 1, 2, or Sonic 3 sprites.
- Control type options to mimic Sonic 1, 2, 3, CD or "MAX CONTROL", which all of the control abilities all at once.
- There's an option to use Genesis-ized versions of the songs from S&K Collection on PC
- A whole mess of other music options, including when to use Sonic 3-specific music, when to use S&K-specific music, and if you want to incorporate classic theme music from Sonic 1 and 2.
- You can move Flying Battery back to its original Sonic 3 position (between Carnival Night and Ice Cap)
- You can rename Mushroom Hill back to Mushroom Valley
- A mile-long list of bug fixes to improve collision detection and such.
- And much, much more!
Unfortunately, the place you can get it from doesn't really force its users to distribute IPS patches or anything anymore so... y'know.
But it's super cool. If Sega ever gets around to porting Sonic 3 somewhere, they really need to match this feature set.
Good stuff, Blaze. This is pure awesome.
That honestly would be the most interesting one to do out of all of the classic Sonic games due to all the content that was cut.
So what's everyone's favourite non-sonic Sonic Team game (i'll leave PSO out of this), and yeah I'm adding Prope's games and SC5 since outside of Mizuguchi producing it's made by members who are now at Sonic Team
Ristar
NiGHTS
Burning Rangers
Samba de Amigo
Space Channel 5
Chu Chu Rocket
Billy Hatcher
Feel the Magic/Rub Rabbits
Let's Tap
Ivy Kiwi
Rythm Thief
Ristar
NiGHTS
Burning Rangers
Samba de Amigo
Space Channel 5
Chu Chu Rocket
Billy Hatcher
Feel the Magic/Rub Rabbits
Let's Tap
Ivy Kiwi
Rythm Thief
Professor Beef
Banned
Phantasy Star Portable, then
Box of Bunnies
Banned
The ones I've played, in order of preference:
Space Channel 5
NiGHTS
Billy Hatcher
Ristar
Project Rub/Rub Rabbits
Ivy the Kiwi?
Rhythm Thief
Nothing comes close to SC5 or NiGHTS. Billy Hatcher isn't perfect but it's the kind of thing I'd like to see the team be able to do more of. By the time I got around to playing Rub Rabbits I wasn't as interested in that kind of thing anymore, felt like I'd had my fill of it, but I loved Project Rub (especially the aesthetic of the game) at the time of release.
Rhythm Thief is one of those games that I really wanted to like but just couldn't. The atmosphere of the game is great, and the actual rhythm games are okay, but the bland adventure stuff basically kills it. There's a decent game (or heck, even a great OVA) in there but it's buried under so much junk that I just didn't care.
Honestly, when it comes down to it, I personally don't really care much for either of those series. I mean, I don't dislike them
except SC5 since I'm not really into memory games
Seven Force
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Well, these days, their non-Sonic projects are usually Phantasy Star stuff, with the occasional Puyo Puyo game.
tiggerkiddo
Member
Don't care for Sonicteam's non Sonic stuff but I kinda want to play Billy Hatcher.
Tizoc
Member
Comic books and fighting games I'd say~
Shame I can't link it here, but there's a new release of Sonic 3 Complete out now and it is pretty sweet.
Sonic 3 Complete started, from what I remember, as a project to finish up that "Sonic 3+" concept Sega had - basically S3&K all together on one cartridge. There were prototype ROMs of that floating around a couple years ago.
Sonic 3 Complete goes a step further and is a general enhancement project for Sonic 3 that does all kinds of nifty stuff. For example, in the most recent release...
- You can enable the "Tails Assist" option from Sonic 1 iOS, so you can give Tails the order to airlift you if you are playing as Sonic.
- You have your choice of Sonic 1, 2, or Sonic 3 sprites.
- Control type options to mimic Sonic 1, 2, 3, CD or "MAX CONTROL", which is all of the control abilities all at once.
- There's an option to use Genesis-ized versions of the songs from S&K Collection on PC
- A whole mess of other music options, including when to use Sonic 3-specific music, when to use S&K-specific music, and if you want to incorporate classic theme music from Sonic 1 and 2.
- You can move Flying Battery back to its original Sonic 3 position (between Carnival Night and Ice Cap)
- You can rename Mushroom Hill back to Mushroom Valley
- A mile-long list of bug fixes to improve collision detection and such.
- And much, much more!
Unfortunately, the place you can get it from doesn't really force its users to distribute IPS patches or anything anymore so... y'know.
But it's super cool. If Sega ever gets around to porting Sonic 3 somewhere, they really need to match this feature set.
Oh nice! I hadn't heard of this one. Do you know if it will run on actual hardware?
PhantomOfTheKnight
Member
Just bought the Alan Wake bundle on Steam. Anyone know how long the Sonic Hits Collection deal will be available?
Lightning Lord
Banned
I think they should have gone for a city level.
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