CrimsonCrescendo
Banned
What. The. Fuck.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Sonic the Hedgehog Community |OT2 Battle|
- Thread starter Professor Beef
- Start date
- Status
What. The. Fuck.
Tizoc
Member
A shame really, but all things considered, it would've bombed even if it were released in 2012 in the west.
I do give Kamiya props for not giving much of a fuck about sales.
Hot Coldman
Banned
You can join me and Nocturnowl. Then we can start a BritSonicGAF thread, with its own podcast.
It's called "Must Proceed Swiftly".
Can I sit in the corner?
Shadow Hog
Member
These iOS knockoffs just keep coming
Honestly, I see this shit and all I can think is, "Look, Freedom Planet definitely features Sonic fan characters from a Chinese deviantART-ist, but at least it's really fun to play and, y'know, not this blatant shit."
Anarchy Reigns isn't too bad, but from what I've played of the intro, it gets kind of boring.
W101 on the other hand could definitely use some polish on it's controls.
I've played these Platinum games
W101
Anarchy Reigns
Bayonetta
Mad World
and the only one I actually genuinely enjoyed was Bayonetta. Not really sure why Platinum gets the praise, maybe it's Vanquish.
W101 on the other hand could definitely use some polish on it's controls.
I've played these Platinum games
W101
Anarchy Reigns
Bayonetta
Mad World
and the only one I actually genuinely enjoyed was Bayonetta. Not really sure why Platinum gets the praise, maybe it's Vanquish.
http://abload.de/img/screen6_568x568wrbc9.jpeg[img] [img]http://abload.de/img/screen7_568x568hnxkr.jpeg[img] [img]http://abload.de/img/screen8_568x568dxlz9.jpeg[img]
These iOS knockoffs [I]just keep coming[/I]
Honestly, I see this shit and all I can think is, "Look, [I]Freedom Planet[/I] definitely features [I]Sonic[/I] fan characters from a Chinese deviantART-ist, but at least it's really fun to play and, y'know, not [B]this[/B] blatant shit."[/QUOTE]
That looks like if Sonic and Tails used the Fusion-ha.
Box of Bunnies
Banned
Canadians are pretty cool to but I have heritage in Australia so I'm biased
Fair enough. Most of the best Canadians have heritage in Australia too (basing this on their 2003 cricket world cup team)
It's a little crazy, yeah. I mean it's an infinitely better game than Mad World, but Mad World had the Wii's insane user base, the unique graphic style and the audio design (soundtrack, humorous commentary) behind it.
That it managed to best Mad World isn't really an achievement by any means, but it's still surprising.
Maybe one day. I actually know someone who emigrated from England to Australia. Must've been crazy.
Overall it's in terms of their stock; they're basically the reincarnation of Clover, who made some of Capcom's best, most creative games of the GCN/PS2 generation. In terms of their games developed as P*, iit's pretty much just Bayonetta, Vanquish, and Wonderful 101 (which are three fantastic, best-in-field games, don't get me wrong) with the MW/AR games being pretty middling.
Of course Mikami has left since then so they've lost a little of that cache.
Collect "coins"? C'mon, guys.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
This game really isn't for me. I mean, okay. There's some depth (yes, there actually is), but it takes so fucking long to get there. Not to mention you don't seem to need premium characters at all given that one of the better attackers is unlocked in-game anyway and just needs some better equipment for it.
Eh? Platinum games are really excellent. They deserve a lot of praise for what they do. It's just that you really have to take a lot of time with their games to discover depth with respect to balancing, attacking, block/dodge, canceling, etc. They're probably bad at tutorials in general, but when you dive deep into the games they've developed, they're among the best of the best. Playing a Plat game on max difficulty is probably the best thing you could do, simply because of what you've achieved with respect to learning about the depth of it.
Eh? Platinum games are really excellent. They deserve a lot of praise for what they do. It's just that you really have to take a lot of time with their games to discover depth with respect to balancing, attacking, block/dodge, canceling, etc. They're probably bad at tutorials in general, but when you dive deep into the games they've developed, they're among the best of the best. Playing a Plat game on max difficulty is probably the best thing you could do, simply because of what you've achieved with respect to learning about the depth of it.
CrimsonCrescendo
Banned
So I just bought Sonic Adventure 1 off of Steam and tried it out. I died 4 times due to colliding with the wall and glitching through the floor. Was the original release this glitchy, or is it just a bad port?
Hot Coldman
Banned
Tell me everything you know about updating RSS feeds.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
SA1 was a miserable port on all platforms, if I recall correctly.
I don't remember if people made mods for it. They probably did and I can't remember a lot of them off the top of my head at the moment.
The only Platinum games I've played are:
MadWorld - I thought was okay. I really regret buying it full price though. $10 game at best. It was a decent game, but it definitely had some moments.
W101 demo - It's pretty neat but oh god do I suck bad at it. I've only played it once so it hasn't exactly clicked completely yet. But yeah, fun game, it has promise.
Metal Gear Rising - GOTY Material. It's short but oh my god, the OST is so kickass and the combat is soooo satisfying. I don't mind the game's short length, it kind of adds replay value because of that. I honestly did not expect the game to be that fun to me.
I want to try out Bayonetta. I've recently borrowed the PS3 copy (I know I know) from my brother since I do not own an Xbox. The SEGA references is kind of one of the big reasons why I want to try it, that and I've heard so much good about the game.
I don't mind people loving Platinum, but I really hate it when a lot of them say "PLATINUM SHOULD MAKE ________ AND _______". It's almost as bad as everyone wanting every game to copy off Demon/Dark Souls. There is no such thing as games or developers that are the end-all.
Lemme get my post where I've ranted about that horrible Steam release.
MadWorld - I thought was okay. I really regret buying it full price though. $10 game at best. It was a decent game, but it definitely had some moments.
W101 demo - It's pretty neat but oh god do I suck bad at it. I've only played it once so it hasn't exactly clicked completely yet. But yeah, fun game, it has promise.
Metal Gear Rising - GOTY Material. It's short but oh my god, the OST is so kickass and the combat is soooo satisfying. I don't mind the game's short length, it kind of adds replay value because of that. I honestly did not expect the game to be that fun to me.
I want to try out Bayonetta. I've recently borrowed the PS3 copy (I know I know) from my brother since I do not own an Xbox. The SEGA references is kind of one of the big reasons why I want to try it, that and I've heard so much good about the game.
I don't mind people loving Platinum, but I really hate it when a lot of them say "PLATINUM SHOULD MAKE ________ AND _______". It's almost as bad as everyone wanting every game to copy off Demon/Dark Souls. There is no such thing as games or developers that are the end-all.
Lemme get my post where I've ranted about that horrible Steam release.
Hmm.. I see. I don't know, I think W101 is all right, just it and the other Platinum games I've played just haven't seemed to be of the same quality of Bayonetta. The others are like passable (except Mad World), but nothing great like Bayonetta. I guess I'll have to try out Vanquish. I prefer third person shooters to first person shooters most of the time so a stylish one looks interesting.
It's a port of a port, hence the glitches. There is actually fan patch for it here.
http://forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?showtopic=25301
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I played Bayo on PS3. Noi did, too, iirc.
We're fine with the game overall. Just sucks that it ended up that way.
Look, what you always need to remember is that Bayonetta, Ninja Gaiden Black, and Devil May Cry 3 SE: DA are the three most important action games out there. Period.
We're fine with the game overall. Just sucks that it ended up that way.
Look, what you always need to remember is that Bayonetta, Ninja Gaiden Black, and Devil May Cry 3 SE: DA are the three most important action games out there. Period.
Box of Bunnies
Banned
The original PC port of Sonic Adventure DX (prior to the port of the XBLA port) is basically quality (at least, as quality as Sonic Adventure can be) and somewhat plentiful here in Australia. I think there are widescreen mods and stuff for it.
Get back to me after I've finished my uni course and I can tell you everything you need to know
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I think Wonderful 101 is gonna be great, but it's also the most inaccessible game to come out of Platinum/Clover since God Hand(which if you don't recall, had a demon inexplicably pop up and kill your ass ten minutes into the game while you're still learning the controls). And it doesn't do a great job actually explaining the mechanics, either.
I'm gonna love it probably, but it's gonna bomb so hard in America its gonna make a grown man cry. A chaotic, inaccessible game in a kid-friendly candy wrapper on a dead console. Atomic bomba status, ya'll.
I'm gonna love it probably, but it's gonna bomb so hard in America its gonna make a grown man cry. A chaotic, inaccessible game in a kid-friendly candy wrapper on a dead console. Atomic bomba status, ya'll.
Hahaha.
Box of Bunnies
Banned
Wonderful 101 is pretty much Bayonetta by way of Okami with Pikmin presentation. It can feel obtuse, but once you get a handle on it it's fucking fabulous. Pretty much top shelf Hideki Kamiya/P* stuff.
I wasn't surprised when it bombed, that's something I've gotten used to after following these developers for a decade. It was the magnitude of the explosion that I didn't expect.
I wasn't surprised when it bombed, that's something I've gotten used to after following these developers for a decade. It was the magnitude of the explosion that I didn't expect.
My rant about the SADX steam port:
Oh and for some reason the game doesn't want to boot up anymore. Lovely.
Definitely get the fan patch Kokonoe posted. It fixed a lot of the issues.
EDIT: wait, that fan patch looks a little different than I've remembered. Is this the one that basically turns the Steam version into the 2004 port? Or is it a different patch all together?
Oh and for some reason the game doesn't want to boot up anymore. Lovely.
Definitely get the fan patch Kokonoe posted. It fixed a lot of the issues.
EDIT: wait, that fan patch looks a little different than I've remembered. Is this the one that basically turns the Steam version into the 2004 port? Or is it a different patch all together?
There's also the choice of using Dolphin or a Dreamcast emulator to play in 1080p if you want widescreen without all the issue.
This is a patch that patches bugs. It's not 2004 slapped on there. They trial and error tested the game and fixed issues with it.
This is a patch that patches bugs. It's not 2004 slapped on there. They trial and error tested the game and fixed issues with it.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
You know, it's weird being home during mornings when I usually have my shift at the hospital. Haha. There's a lot of activity that I just seem to miss when I do work my shifts.
Kinda feel bad, just because there's a lot of patients lately and they need more help these days, but I had to do my own nursing at home, sooooo...
I don't really think it's going to do very well, either. Shame, but... that seems to be the general case with Platinum games, unfortunately.
Kinda feel bad, just because there's a lot of patients lately and they need more help these days, but I had to do my own nursing at home, sooooo...
This. It doesn't explain itself very well, and we saw that in the demo. When I actually did go out and try everything out and play around with everything I probably could, then I finally liked the demo because it felt suited to an action game. The idea that it's kinda like Pikmin is erroneous because you're essentially doing action-based combat in-battle (with an utterly broken character at your disposal at times). It's great action combat, but you really need to dig into it to see what's there. And that's probably a bit of an issue.
I don't really think it's going to do very well, either. Shame, but... that seems to be the general case with Platinum games, unfortunately.
How good is the Dreamcast emulation? I wouldn't mind playing my DC games on my computer.
Ohhh. I see! Hope it patches well with the other patch I've mentioned.
Pretty good. Perhaps not Dolphin good, but definitely nice. NullDC is what I believe everyone uses now.
Nocturnowl
Member
Now there's a classy title.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Mad World omega bomba of all bombas kinda made sense to me, it had a very western comic book aesthetic and feel...plus the game was pretty mediocre.
I thought Japan would be more interested in this super-sentai game. Even Viewtiful Joe sold out it's 100k initial shipment in the first week. W101 was...
Metal Gear Rising: 335,791 (PS3)
Bayonetta: 138,430 (PS3) + 66,211 (360) = 204,641
Vanquish: 51,705 (PS3) + 11,798 (360) = 63,503
Anarchy Reigns: 21,199 (PS3) + 4,170 (360) = 25,369
Infinite Space: 40,266 (DS)
The Wonderful 101: 6,663
Mad World: 4,651 (Wii)
Kamiya pls
I'm gonna enjoy Bayonetta 2 while I can because that's probably the last time Nintendo saves these guys again
Thanks. I'll consider it!
Box of Bunnies
Banned
I really don't know where Platinum goes from here. Sega are obviously done with them, Nintendo will probably be happy to finish their relationship after Wonderful 101 and Bayonetta 2.
Pretty much all they've got in terms of commercial successes is MGR, which rode on the strength of the Metal Gear brand. Publishers aren't going to be lining up to commission projects when their library is filled with sales failure after failure.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
All I can say is we live in a world where Spark Unlimited and Ninja Theory keep getting work for their mediocre AAA games, surely there's hope left for Platinum.
Hot Coldman
Banned
We live in a world where fucking Grasshopper keeps making games. Anything's possible.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Dammit, JC.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Grasshopper was recently acquired by GungHo Online Entertainment, so Suda51 is financially set now. He can make as many weird, janky bombas as he wants!
CrimsonCrescendo
Banned
Thanks.
Box of Bunnies
Banned
Spark Unlimited and Ninja Theory get by on the western fetishisation by Japanese publishers. Platinum won't be so lucky.
Tizoc
Member
Sonic Adventure 1 on PS3 seems to run...OK even though it's restricted to 4:3 ratio =P
Speaking of which, the 4:3 ratio never bothered me while playing Castle of Illusion port by M2.
I want those blasted janky bombas on Steam/PC, it's a shame Shadows of the Damned nor Lollipop Chainsaw are ever gonna get a PC ver. =/
Speaking of which, the 4:3 ratio never bothered me while playing Castle of Illusion port by M2.
I want those blasted janky bombas on Steam/PC, it's a shame Shadows of the Damned nor Lollipop Chainsaw are ever gonna get a PC ver. =/
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Actually, now that I've played it for a bit, there is a very small degree of depth to it. I need more time with it before saying any more.
It should have been F2P in the first place.
It should have been F2P in the first place.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I wrote shit.
I'm very willing to give games the benefit of the doubt. Sometimes to my detriment (as you all know by now, yep), but it's a decent timewaster that you'd play while waiting for an appointment or for the bus or for class or something.
I'll play it more, but I don't really hate it at this point. It's legitimately not the worst game I've ever played.
I'm very willing to give games the benefit of the doubt. Sometimes to my detriment (as you all know by now, yep), but it's a decent timewaster that you'd play while waiting for an appointment or for the bus or for class or something.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Meccanical
Member
The sad thing is people would have loved to play a game with a class system and where you can use your favorite characters from the series as party members as you traveled through all the worlds in the series in chronological order exploring things and just having a good old nostalgia filled romp.
But no.
Because fuck you.
But no.
Because fuck you.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Konami was dead to me a long time ago.
They couldn't even save themselves with that game that masqueraded as a Genso Suikoden game last year.
They couldn't even save themselves with that game that masqueraded as a Genso Suikoden game last year.
- Status