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Sonic the Hedgehog Community Thread: Green Hills and Laughing Iizukas
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Lord British
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I'd forgotten about that game. Still wouldn't have had it below either of those games. Blast is bad, but it has a semblance of level design, even though it sucks. Chaotix has no level design at all. Literally! Nobody designed the levels.
Heroes is basically the gaming equivalent of being told you're going to Disneyland when you're really going to the funeral of a beloved relative.
Azure Dream
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Zero Gravity was great, I don't really know why it gets the hate it does. The only minor sin is that it's a little easy, and after the original Riders, that wasn't the worst mistake to make.
Nice that they still haven't added a text link or anything to Sega1991's video.
Nice that they still haven't added a text link or anything to Sega1991's video.
The gravity mechanic didn't meet the potential it had, and like you said, it often made the game too simple. Turbulence and Air from the original game were much better mechanics, IMO. The story was an awful I Robot clone, and was waaaaaay too short. The whole "Gear Shift" crap was unnecessary too.
Nocturnowl
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I've only played Zero Gravity, I enjoyed it quite a bit for the £10 I spent, it was flawed to be sure but I can't say it was bad. A bit odd though considering that everyone mentions the first game was much better, proverbial balls were dropped then?
Professor Beef
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I loved SR1 and Zero Gravity. Get at me.
Nocturnowl
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I'm bored as hell so i'm going to play some Sonic 3D blast on the mega drive collection and see how long I can handle it, we'll see which sonic related blast is the bigger dud.
edit: hey what's the twinkle circuit music doing here? my life has been a lie!
Also random yelping SEGA!, forgot about that, how wrong it sounds.
edit: hey what's the twinkle circuit music doing here? my life has been a lie!
Also random yelping SEGA!, forgot about that, how wrong it sounds.
Riders was good fun. Zero Gravity less so due to various annoyances. Free Riders started off decently enough for what I was expecting, but then turned out to be what I originally expected before I thought it was good enough to buy for cheap.
Modern day Hunnid-P
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Oh godcan't believe no one ever posted this here
i was looking through hunnidp's youtube channel (they guy who made knuckles rap songs) and discovered this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn8usuYcCQE
pure magic
also... his facebook profile picture made me lol
can't wait to see the project hes working on with SEGA.
Modern day Hunnid-P
Reposting (I think)
Nocturnowl
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I've made it as far as Spring Stadium which invites more nightmares on top of this excrement of a game.
Isometric platforming is the absolute worst on top of Sonic's rather awful control, the core gameplay hook is sleep inducing, the environments devoid of anything interesting and Knuckles and Tails thieved me of my rings and I don't know why.
Well at least it looks and sounds alright but I can abide no more of this, Flicky probably makes for a better game.
Isometric platforming is the absolute worst on top of Sonic's rather awful control, the core gameplay hook is sleep inducing, the environments devoid of anything interesting and Knuckles and Tails thieved me of my rings and I don't know why.
Well at least it looks and sounds alright but I can abide no more of this, Flicky probably makes for a better game.
Hot Coldman
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Haha, fucking brilliant. These animators are top notch!
Seven Force
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This is amazing.
If you give Tails/Knuckles 50 rings, you go to a special stage.
SpikedGunner
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pretty much the same with me, it essentially was stripped down thanks to the gravity mechanic which wasn't as fun or helpful as the air mechanics. Haven't played Free Riders, but from the time that I've played it, it seems middle of the road, don't hate but could be better. If there was another sequel, I would welcome back an optional standard control that uses the mechanics from the first game. The tracks themselves could be less bland/generic for me atleast in the aesthetic sense, Layout is another story.
Nocturnowl
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So basically my cheapskate powers saved me from the horror, excellent.
Ehhh, the special stages are actually not bad in 3D Blast. The Genesis version's special stages were decent while the Saturn version's were great.
Whoa whoa whoa wait a minute.
The story of a Sonic Riders game is a clone of I, Robot?
I need to hear more about this.
New Previews for Archie Sonic in a few months:
This looks good.
I'm probably exaggerating. But I recall the story being about a meteor which gives gravity power yada yada. Then one of the security robots goes nuts when it sees a meteor rock, and then makes the rest of the robots turn against humans and shit.
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Nice covers by the way. Even though I've been collecting the older issues, I haven't been keeping up with the most recent
Sonic monopoly board revealed, Sonic 4 is the most expensive properties
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/556434_456511861048669_1958312124_n.jpg
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/556434_456511861048669_1958312124_n.jpg
Ugh, wish they picked a better image for the center of the board. It looks so generic. Other than that, its fine.
Nocturnowl
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And SA2 as the filthy cheap properties.
Aside from those most of these groupings are random, I see episode 2 creeping in on a Sonic Colours setup but at least it's Sylvania Castle.
Professor Beef
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Is it just me, or is Sonic 06 absent from that board?
And hell yeah at SA2 being those properties.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Haha, now that you mention it, I don't think I see a single Sonic 2006 property on there...
Catching up, Zero Gravity and Free Riders have great OP songs, imo. The comic previews sound good. I kinda forgot Mighty was a thing for a minute there... >.> Next few Sonic Universe issues should be pretty good then.
Picked up The Last Story and Darksiders II and am ready to begin my two weeks off! Was gonna pick up NSMB2 but reading the OT made the game seem not to have super-positive reception.
Catching up, Zero Gravity and Free Riders have great OP songs, imo. The comic previews sound good. I kinda forgot Mighty was a thing for a minute there... >.> Next few Sonic Universe issues should be pretty good then.
Picked up The Last Story and Darksiders II and am ready to begin my two weeks off! Was gonna pick up NSMB2 but reading the OT made the game seem not to have super-positive reception.
This was never posted I don't think and this is amazing.
Nocturnowl
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Sonic 06 is likely represented as some sort of scam card that sends you straight to jail, don't pass the goal post, don't collect 200 rings.
I felt it was cheerful enough in the OT for a pretty blatant cash grab, i'm pleasantly surprised by the reception in there really, good game if not particularly remarkable , I wish I could say that much for Sonic 4.
Last Story is a game I should really get back to playing, i've had it since like the PAL release and I just plain forget about it, my wii sounds like it's going to perish when running the game.
Professor Beef
Banned
"Head straight to Dusty Desert."
Nocturnowl
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To replace the tradition of rolling doubles to escape one must now roll two balls into the holes to get out, it can't be done!
Shadow Hog
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Naw, you get sent to End of the World. Jail is one of those gravity wells. Have fun getting out of it.
Seven Force
Banned
They should have used the Sonic cake as the jail icon.
How long till Silver themed Billiards?
After seeing this post I'm certain you could get a job for scripting Sonic Colors 2.
Leery, you might say
I'd give myself a 2/10 for that
After seeing this post I'm certain you could get a job for scripting Sonic Colors 2.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
That shouldn't be a guilty pleasure; I love it.
I'm gonna find a way to sneak it into my FFIV playthrough similar with Green Ranger song.
Some people saying they have a crapton of lives in that thread is pretty stunning. Mario having lives isn't a bad thing but how they're used should be changed, and you shouldn't be able to rack up so much of them in the case where the game is super-easy. It doesn't feel very rewarding in that case. Games like DKCR and Sonic Unleashed force you to accumulate more lives because you need them.Nocturnowl said:
Some impressions in the NSMB2 thread just make the game seem good but lacking. I can't help but to notice some disappointment on one side of the coin in some impressions.
The Last Story kind of makes me feel nauseous due to the framerate. It's very much on the easy side, but I like it so far despite that. I guess the reason behind that is because I'm not comparing it to other games right now? *shrug* We'll see how I end up feeling about it in the end, I guess. Still need to finish Growlanser IV too.
DICKS AHOY
Banned
... I have absolutely no clue what game those zones in the top right corner are (Metal City, Dusty Ruins, etc.) One of the spin-offs? Pumpkin Hill being buyable is a cute nod, but I would've replaced maybe Heroes with SA1 levels and S4 with more classic zones (they ignored S'06 existence again after all!). But eh, taking board game adaptations of a children's videogame franchise seriously and all that :X
Also did anybody ever post this? Because it's awesome.
BlazeHedgehog
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Babylon Garden, Sand Ruins and Metal City are from the first Sonic Riders game.
Not really horror, more like boredom because they're all super easy.
Shadow Hog
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Yeah, the Genesis version's special stages kind of blow, to be perfectly honest. Not Sonic Blast bad, but still handily the worst set of the Genesis series.
The Saturn's versions, on the other hand, are amazing. It's like Sonic 2's, but with a ton of new features. You can roll into a ball, for one thing, which, much like in Sonic games proper, lets you roll down downward inclines much faster. Then they add countdown gates, where a number counts downward to 0, and going through the gate awards you as many rings as the number shows when you touch it, giving the spin attack/ramp mechanic some actual use. Then they have some platforms flying above the tubes with extra rings, and springs to traverse them by (granted they only seem to come in sets of two before you fall back down onto the main path, but it's still kinda cool)... It's great.
The PC version's is better than the Genesis's version, but not as good as the Saturn's. It plays like a much, much more straight version of Sonic 2's. The ramp/spin attack mechanics are gone, the springs and extra platforms are gone, etc. On the plus side, the draw distance is pretty phenomenal; you can see the entire stage ahead of you in the distance, which I don't think most special stages opt to do. So, workable, but not astonishing like the Saturn port's.
As far as my favorite special stages go, Chaotix, handily. I really like the "no definitive sense of down" it gives; any surface attached to the one you're running on, provided the angle created is obtuse, can be run onto, and gravity then changes accordingly. The design then accounts for this by adding wildly alternate paths on the ceiling in the later stages. The main game doesn't have much going for it in terms of proper level design, but these sure as hell do. The only problem with them is that they're attached to Chaotix.
Also make it so there's, like, just 2 or 3 acts instead of FIVE per level. It gets really obnoxious after a while since they're all so similar they kind of blend together.
And yeah, the special stages were awesome. Probably the best in the "Classic" series next to S3+K's blue spheres.
Shadow Hog
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So basically, they should make an entirely different game. At that point, why are you even modding Chaotix?
If there were one thing that could easily be fixed, though, having an actual level select would be nice. Random zone selection is ass.
Keep the special stage. Keep the graphics. Keep the music. Keep the Zones themselves (just better layout).
It'd be more of a remake than a new game.
PeakPointMatrix
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Been out of the loop lately, but I guess we got no new Sonic news from Gamescom? Gettin antsy, I need a new Sonic game announced and all the drama that comes with it soon. SOON.
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