Hot Coldman
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Seriously? It's a Western developed game for I'd imagine a primarily Western audience. Same reason there's no Phantasy Star or Yakuza references (yet).
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Sonic the Hedgehog Community Thread: Green Hills and Laughing Iizukas
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Seriously? It's a Western developed game for I'd imagine a primarily Western audience. Same reason there's no Phantasy Star or Yakuza references (yet).
SUMO is in England. Also if you aren't aware, Zobio and Zobiko were in the last game.
Then there's this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIxI1eB2-vo
Seven Force
Banned
I think that was moreso a case of trying to fit in an age appropriate HOTD racer in the game rather than trying to appeal to Japan.
Yeah, that's what Sumo said. ASR never came out in Japan, but they said there might be a chance for ASR Transformed.
SUMO doesn't just try to appeal to one market, as I've mentioned before at the time where Big The Cat was confirmed to not being used anymore, they pretty much said because of it that would actually motivate them to put the character in the game.
Hot Coldman
Banned
I know, pretty sure the UK still falls under the "Western umbrella". Seven Force is right about Zobio.
Anyway, Miku isn't owned by SEGA. And it blows ass
Hot Coldman
Banned
The only thing from Virtual-On I remember is a pink robot that shoots hearts.
Hot Coldman
Banned
The only thing I remember from Virtual On is a bunch of people wanting it to be re-released
and then it was
and then no-one gave a fuck
and then it was
and then no-one gave a fuck
It also got a sequel in Japan that never made it over seas.
Yes, and they recently added it for digital download on the Xbox 360 Japanese Marketplace. Oddly enough, it's region-free, so you may play it if you have a non Japanese 360.
The last page has me curious, and I figure GAF prefers Classic more, but I'd like to see just in case.
Before I begin, I'll point out that I in fact like both of these designs. However, there is one I prefer over the other.
I have been playing Sonic games since 1994 with Sonic 2, I've enjoyed pretty much all the classic games and the adventure games since that time.
If I were to compare the two, I'd say Modern Sonic has the better design, and here is why.
Spikes
Modern Sonic's spikes are just a bit longer and thinner, while Classic Sonic's are more round and wider. This is purely preference, but I suppose it would be like comparing short hair to long hair.
Eyes
To be honest, I don't generally like purely black eyes as it lacks a lot of character and is rather dull to be honest. Modern Sonic's design adds green to this, which just happens to be my favorite color.
Overall
Modern Sonic has a more slender build, now if I were to make sense of any of these Sonic designs just for it, I'd say it makes a bit more sense for something that runs fast to have a slender body type, and I think it looks better. I also like the shade of blue on Modern Sonic more.
Classic's design is more of what people generally call "cute" while Modern's is "cool" in theme. Well, they are both "cool", but one is designed entirely around it compared to the other. I don't generally like things people usually consider cute, so for me that's another reason I like Modern's design more.
Well, there you go. Although I'm not a fan of Hatsune Miku.
Before I begin, I'll point out that I in fact like both of these designs. However, there is one I prefer over the other.
I have been playing Sonic games since 1994 with Sonic 2, I've enjoyed pretty much all the classic games and the adventure games since that time.
If I were to compare the two, I'd say Modern Sonic has the better design, and here is why.
Spikes
Modern Sonic's spikes are just a bit longer and thinner, while Classic Sonic's are more round and wider. This is purely preference, but I suppose it would be like comparing short hair to long hair.
Eyes
To be honest, I don't generally like purely black eyes as it lacks a lot of character and is rather dull to be honest. Modern Sonic's design adds green to this, which just happens to be my favorite color.
Overall
Modern Sonic has a more slender build, now if I were to make sense of any of these Sonic designs just for it, I'd say it makes a bit more sense for something that runs fast to have a slender body type, and I think it looks better. I also like the shade of blue on Modern Sonic more.
Classic's design is more of what people generally call "cute" while Modern's is "cool" in theme. Well, they are both "cool", but one is designed entirely around it compared to the other. I don't generally like things people usually consider cute, so for me that's another reason I like Modern's design more.
Well, there you go. Although I'm not a fan of Hatsune Miku.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Me too, except for the Sonic Drive In shit.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Weeaboos. Fuck weeaboos.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Smug!Erika and Trollestia are the only avatars that really fit me.
wtf am i watching
Hatsune Miku is trying to sell you Toyota cars.
TheCongressman1
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Classic most definitely.
A few things irritate me about modern's design.
- His slender design leads him to look more awkward more times than not. Most of his weight is in his shoes and head. He might as well not even have a body. I mean, heck, when he runs you can't even tell it's there.
- The green eyes. Not only are they acid green and completely garish, but they also have no business in his color scheme. Red blue and neutrals are all he really needs. Other non intrusive colors are ok, like his gold buckles, as they fit in with his tan parts.
Classic's design is just far better thought out. It's very well balanced.
Side note: I will say that modern's levels in generations were a lot more fun than classic's though. I love the classic in modern level mod.
A few things irritate me about modern's design.
- His slender design leads him to look more awkward more times than not. Most of his weight is in his shoes and head. He might as well not even have a body. I mean, heck, when he runs you can't even tell it's there.
- The green eyes. Not only are they acid green and completely garish, but they also have no business in his color scheme. Red blue and neutrals are all he really needs. Other non intrusive colors are ok, like his gold buckles, as they fit in with his tan parts.
Classic's design is just far better thought out. It's very well balanced.
Side note: I will say that modern's levels in generations were a lot more fun than classic's though. I love the classic in modern level mod.
PeakPointMatrix
Member
I like both. I can be happy with the two equally co-exsiting, just like my two favorite Megaman designs are the classic and Legends designs. I think it's pretty amusing to see people get so emotional over Modern Sonic. His current design is a very nice middle ground I feel.
I agree with this gripe, but I blame that more on the animation/posing than anything. Some adjustments would grant him a better running silhouette. I don't think Unleashed or Colors had this animation so extremely posed, although I could be wrong. But I just can't find much to get offended about the current look.- His slender design leads him to look more awkward more times than not. Most of his weight is in his shoes and head. He might as well not even have a body. I mean, heck, when he runs you can't even tell it's there.
TheCongressman1
Member
I agree, the animation could be a ton better, but I imagine it's hard to do with that design. If you look at how all the spikes are bunched together when he runs, there isn't really anything for them to do with them otherwise. They just end up covering all the other details anyway. That's just something that comes with his design. His head and feet are the emphasis now. There's not much they can do to get around that.
Modern can look good at some times, like that picture you just posted, but it's a real mixed bag.
PeakPointMatrix
Member
These aren't the clearest screenshots, but they do show a better running silhouette for Modern Sonic in Unleashed/Colors than Generations. No chest consumed by head, nice even placement.
versus congressman's screen..
Yeah they need to take a step back.
versus congressman's screen..
Yeah they need to take a step back.
The Generations screenshot is sloped downwards, and from an angle slightly above Sonic. Having a perfect side-on might look different?
Also, I think both Classic and Modern are fantastic designs and not all that different from eachother, but Modern has by preference by just a little bit. His design fits the "Whoa this guy can run REALLY fast" theme more than chubby Classic Sonic, whose round design fits the spindash/curling more.
Modern got a bit extreme during Sonic 06 especially, but I think from Unleashed onwards he's been perfect.
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More Metal Sonic mod goodness:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm2OukJCQy0
What I love about this guy's mods is that he doesn't mess with gameplay stuff or add awkward animations. A lot of modders do things like try to give Knuckles a glide while boosting or have Blaze's incredibly awkward runcycle from Sonic Rush, and it just looks horrible :\
Also, I think both Classic and Modern are fantastic designs and not all that different from eachother, but Modern has by preference by just a little bit. His design fits the "Whoa this guy can run REALLY fast" theme more than chubby Classic Sonic, whose round design fits the spindash/curling more.
Modern got a bit extreme during Sonic 06 especially, but I think from Unleashed onwards he's been perfect.
[EDIT]
More Metal Sonic mod goodness:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm2OukJCQy0
What I love about this guy's mods is that he doesn't mess with gameplay stuff or add awkward animations. A lot of modders do things like try to give Knuckles a glide while boosting or have Blaze's incredibly awkward runcycle from Sonic Rush, and it just looks horrible :\
Nocturnowl
Member
Not sure because his wobbly smirk made him look less smug and more worried, as if he knew that Sonic 4 was not going to live up to expectations but damn did he try to keep that smile anyway.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Given that Sonic is basically a fucking ball, his classic design is pretty much spot-on and any alteration to it is unnecessary and missing the point.
Seven Force
Banned
The running animation thing doesn't really bother me at all. In fact, it kind of reminds me of how Sonic's running sprites from the Genesis trilogy have his head jutted out pretty far forward from his body.
With that said, I prefer Classic Sonic's more cartoonish design.
With that said, I prefer Classic Sonic's more cartoonish design.
Yeah, Classic Sonic is round and embodies the kind of spindashing, pinballing gameplay he was known for.
When the emphasis became more about speed Sonic himself became sleeker, more aerodynamic,
that's probably bullshit, but in my head I can't say sleeker without saying "more aerodynamic" immediately afterwards; I blame TV
We definitely need more 2D art though. Definitely.
I don't honestly view it like that all, although I prefer the 2D art immensely.
I think the green clashes quite well with the blue. There are other character designs that do not feature a mix/match of green that still look great such as Felecia, and Konata Izumi.
These are really turning out well. Now all we need is this
BlazeHedgehog
Member
Yeah those images of Sonic in Colors and Unleashed are both a lot to do with camera angle and probably just the speed Sonic is traveling in. Sonic does not just have "Walk" and "Run" animations anymore; now they blend between at least 4-5 different animatons at different speeds he is moving at. The faster Sonic moves, the lower his head is positioned, and the further back his body gets. Here are images from Sonic Unleashed showing what is probably the same identical animation from Generations:
I agree that I think both Classic and Modern Sonic are fine these days. Modern Sonic has to look appropriately athletic, I think, and he does. Though I think they only just very recently got it "right" - in games like Sonic Heroes and Sonic 2006, he looked pretty bad, especially with how floppy they were making his quills.
I also feel like they went a little too deliberately cute for Classic Sonic. I think the Sonic the Fighters proportions are probably "perfect" as far as I am concerned regarding Classic Sonic.
Feels less cute to me.
I agree that I think both Classic and Modern Sonic are fine these days. Modern Sonic has to look appropriately athletic, I think, and he does. Though I think they only just very recently got it "right" - in games like Sonic Heroes and Sonic 2006, he looked pretty bad, especially with how floppy they were making his quills.
I also feel like they went a little too deliberately cute for Classic Sonic. I think the Sonic the Fighters proportions are probably "perfect" as far as I am concerned regarding Classic Sonic.
Feels less cute to me.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I don't think I prefer one Sonic over the other. I think they both look cool. I just kinda accepted them, green eyes and all. I never got the big deal over that shit.
This isn't like a DmC Dante situation.
This isn't like a DmC Dante situation.
Welp now I'm got Sonic the Fighters music stuck in my head again. Thanks.
Seven Force
Banned
I've always liked the music from the Flying Carpet stage.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Yeah, same. I don't really care anymore outside of some modern renders which make him smile like a jerky-jerk.
I dunno, that Sonic the Fighters image is pretty cute.I also feel like they went a little too deliberately cute for Classic Sonic. I think the Sonic the Fighters proportions are probably "perfect" as far as I am concerned regarding Classic Sonic.
Feels less cute to me.
But I like cuuuuuute so I ended up liking the Classic render for Generations. It's adorable. D'awww...
And his animations are so d'awwww.
D'awww...
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Forgot the best. He looks so damn happy.
How could you hate this model? >:|
How could you hate this model? >:|
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