BlazeHedgehog
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Ah, okay, I missed seeing the zipline the first time. I don't mind that so much, and that was really the only part I felt genuinely weird about.
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Sonic the Hedgehog Community Thread: Green Hills and Laughing Iizukas
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Ah, okay, I missed seeing the zipline the first time. I don't mind that so much, and that was really the only part I felt genuinely weird about.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Has there been any more progress on slapping Classic Sonic into Werehog levels?
BlazeHedgehog
Member
I think they want to work on getting the Modern Sonic levels done first and said anything to do with Classic Sonic will come strictly as a "bonus extra".
I feel like part of that is because of the spindash not working in 3D. I'm sure they're looking in to it; it's at least known why spindashing as classic Sonic in 3D crashes the game - the spindash vector is locked to the last 2D camera angle or whatever, and if no 2D camera angle has been set, it crashes the game.
Somebody will probably come up with a way to set the spindash vector to whatever angle Classic Sonic is facing in 3D, but for now it has not happened.
Hmm I could have sworn that Sonic 1 and 2 had the same design, oh well my memory isn't what is used to be lol. I preferr the Sonic 1, Sonic 3 and Generation design.
Edit: Also I don't see Sonic CD as Canon to the Sonic games so...
Hot Coldman
Banned
Spindashing would probably be mostly ineffective in 3D in its current form anyway. Perhaps they could reuse the animation for some kind of charge attack.
Shadow Hog
Member
It is, though. Metal Sonic was clearly introduced there, and Sonic Adventure has an explicit callback in the opening cutscene for Amy's story (although where the hell are those background shots supposed to be from?).
SEGA Heritage Trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lT02KHfS0Q&feature=youtu.be&a
Apparently the games include additional developer interviews, and both NiGHTS and Sonic Adventure 2 will be out in October.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lT02KHfS0Q&feature=youtu.be&a
Apparently the games include additional developer interviews, and both NiGHTS and Sonic Adventure 2 will be out in October.
My pixels are ready.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Man, I think I'll get all three of the games they're releasing in Fall.
At least Sega's rightfully embraced DD somewhat. I just wish they'd put some Saturn/Sega CD stuff up.
Seven Force
Banned
Didn't they lose the source code for most of their Saturn stuff? I remember reading that somewhere.
I'm debating whether or not I want to buy SA2. The one feature I would have definitely bought the game for isn't in (Online multiplayer) and I'm not really the biggest fan of the game to begin with...
I'm debating whether or not I want to buy SA2. The one feature I would have definitely bought the game for isn't in (Online multiplayer) and I'm not really the biggest fan of the game to begin with...
Shadow Hog
Member
No, they had the rights to release Saga on their service (and should've, considering they had the original and Zwei on it already). This was back when they still had Sega's consoles on the service, including Genesis, 32X, Saturn and Dreamcast emulators. They have since dropped all of that from the service.
They even announced they were adding NiGHTS. They never did.
On a podcast (don't remember which) a former employee stated that they had the code to the game so that they could port it to PC.
Shadow Hog
Member
Hey qq more, I see somebody reviewed your demo on YouTube...
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
And complimented the art to boot. >.>
Seriously, though. Fix the framerate in this one, and it'll be quite pleasant from an atmospheric perspective.
Seriously, though. Fix the framerate in this one, and it'll be quite pleasant from an atmospheric perspective.
That fucking glitch at the end killed me. Hahaha. I had NO idea that was even possible. It got fixed as soon as the creator of the game saw the vid.
The framerate has been dramatically improved... like really improved. Turns out the culprit was not just the crazy amount of backdrop tiles but also some of the collision checks. We're going to release the updated demo as soon as we're done with the proper gamepad support.
We've also fixed up the majority of complaints such as the heaviness and the dickish Snow Robotnik placement.
EDIT: Not to mention Polar Peak Act 2's level layout got some changes such as 50% less slow moving platforms!
Goddamn qq, you made that?
Nothing but the highest respect
I didn't make the graphics in Polar Peaks. A friend did (but unfortunately he quit in the middle of the development due to life). However, I made the graphics for Sparkling Seaside (background and trees aside). We have another spriter in the project and he did pretty much almost everything that aren't level tiles (but he DID make the Sparkling Seaside and part of Relic Retreat's backgrounds).
Most of I've done in the project is the level layout for the first two zones. ...Come to think of it, I also helped a bit with the programming (I rebuilt the enemy system for the engine. I also made the dialog system.) ...And I did suggested a lot of things and assisted in bug fixing. ...Okay I've done a lot too. lol
Well, my complement still stands. Seeing a project (especially fan made things) through is a tough to do.
Huh. Sonic's art in the "3 Legendary games return" part has his regular shoes, not his soaps.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Reposting from another thread. I'm pretty impressed with Before the Sequel now that I've put more time into it. It has a bit of issues, but it's solid.
Additionally, that Lost Level Act 1 music reminded me so much of Genso Suikoden II's Reminiscence / GS2's Days Past that I ended up tearing up. >.>
Additionally, that Lost Level Act 1 music reminded me so much of Genso Suikoden II's Reminiscence / GS2's Days Past that I ended up tearing up. >.>
Well, at least they are still in the game. I actually tend to like the soap shoes more.
Before The Sequel is great. But I think the game kind of dragged on for too long (but I think it is because some of the levels didn't feel different enough, kind of vanilla in some areas).
Oh and I wish the game has a level select after you beat the game or something... there were some great levels I really wanted to replay.
In speaking of, After The Sequel released a demo during SAGE and its level design is a major improvement so far. I recommend it. I'm excited for the full game.
Shadow Hog
Member
I still think "Friday Purples" is the best song on that soundtrack.
Also, from linked post:
Try getting y5 lives next timeSonic the Hedgehog 2 (Genesis)
We all have our favourite games that we just love to speedrun. Well, this is one of mine. Ever since I was little, I've always loved trying to speedrun Sonic 2. Outside of Metropolis Zone, which they ended up taking some hints from for Mad Gear Zone in Sonic 4, I still love blasting through all of the zones, especially in Super Saiyan mode.
Hot Coldman
Banned
They're releasing/have released the best game for each console, what more do you want?!
I've heard great things about the Iizuka-san interview that's included on the SEGA heritage collection, looking forward to seeing it myself. Didn't think we would get one this year xD cause no new Sonic Team games coming out. So thank you SEGA! XD
This will satisfy until next year
This will satisfy until next year
BlazeHedgehog
Member
Since last time I streamed Sonic games some folks were bummed I didn't post about it here, I figured I'd give a heads up that I am currently in prep for this (spent most of the day on it)
http://live.letsvideogame.com/
Still doing tweaks on the site and stuff, if anyone thinks something is too big or too small, now would be a good time to voice concern about design.
http://live.letsvideogame.com/
Still doing tweaks on the site and stuff, if anyone thinks something is too big or too small, now would be a good time to voice concern about design.
PhantomOfTheKnight
Member
Speaking of livestreams, shitty Sonic game + shitty GameCube emulator = SHADU HAZ TEH NUMNUMS.
Shadow Hog
Member
Only "Gangam Style" video I've ever seen was this one.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Yesssss, new glasses. Now I don't have to worry about the stupid thing slipping down my nose all the time.
...I just have to wait for them for a few days. :/
Super-glad the 9th falls on a Sunday this year, otherwise I'd have to miss most of it. I think you should try out the demo for Skies, though. I haven't seen that before.
But wouldn't 255 underflow glitch take up more time for the player if they want to speedrun the game? I love abusing flow glitches like that, though.
I wish they had a level select in Before the Sequel. It's a shame they didn't have one. The other games from SAGE that I've played so far have had a level select and that one didn't. Disappointment, but that's mostly because I wanted to listen to the soundtrack in context again.
And I agree, it felt kinda long (hence why I said, "it's longer than you'd think").
...I just have to wait for them for a few days. :/
I think the site looks fine.Since last time I streamed Sonic games some folks were bummed I didn't post about it here, I figured I'd give a heads up that I am currently in prep for this (spent most of the day on it)
http://live.letsvideogame.com/
Still doing tweaks on the site and stuff, if anyone thinks something is too big or too small, now would be a good time to voice concern about design.
Super-glad the 9th falls on a Sunday this year, otherwise I'd have to miss most of it.
I think you should try out the demo for Skies, though. I haven't seen that before. That wasn't my screenshot. I didn't want to take a picture of my TV with the Genesis hooked up. :lol But seriously... for some reason, I'd much rather speedrun/play Sonic 2 with the Genesis copy than ports of it. Not sure why. Maybe it's the controller, but newer controllers probably do a better job with the game than the original Genesis controller.
But wouldn't 255 underflow glitch take up more time for the player if they want to speedrun the game? I love abusing flow glitches like that, though.
I haven't dug into After The Sequel yet. I plan to soon, though! I hope the level design is better.Before The Sequel is great. But I think the game kind of dragged on for too long (but I think it is because some of the levels didn't feel different enough, kind of vanilla in some areas).
Oh and I wish the game has a level select after you beat the game or something... there were some great levels I really wanted to replay.
In speaking of, After The Sequel released a demo during SAGE and its level design is a major improvement so far. I recommend it. I'm excited for the full game.
I wish they had a level select in Before the Sequel. It's a shame they didn't have one. The other games from SAGE that I've played so far have had a level select and that one didn't. Disappointment, but that's mostly because I wanted to listen to the soundtrack in context again.
And I agree, it felt kinda long (hence why I said, "it's longer than you'd think").
Shadow Hog
Member
Glasses that don't even remotely start slipping downward? What is this wizardry? All of my pairs at least slipped a little.
Depends. I'd probably take the original Genesis controller over a 360 controller, for instance. Although, there are several variants of Genesis controller; later ones had a DPad more analogous to the Saturn's (US/EU model 2, JPN all models). I want one of those controllers now, since I love the Saturn's DPad. The stiff one I have for all three Genesis controllers I have access to is competent, but it just doesn't compare.
But yeah, playing the real deal is always fun. S'why I went out of my way for a proper Sega CD, for instance.
It would; I just stumbled upon it recently and felt like sharing.
Speaking of fun glitches, y'know how in REV00 of Sonic [1], you can hold the C button and it'll prevent Sonic from jumping during the demos? I abused that to make demo Sonic clear the special stage demo. What really amused me was how the special stage demo, when it rolled back around, then started on the second special stage.
Nocturnowl
Member
My glasses have been in mass state of slippage as of late, in fact 2 months ago they fell into the umm....twisting toilet zone, saved before delving straight into act 1.
SO YEAH, about that Sonic.
SO YEAH, about that Sonic.
Seven Force
Banned
My glasses don't seem to slip at all. *shrug*
That trick used to entertain me for hours on end as a kid.
That trick used to entertain me for hours on end as a kid.
Shadow Hog
Member
Amusingly, the code for it (yeah, it was intentional) is still in Sonic 2, but disabled. I got one of the guys at Retro to re-enable it for me (thanks Endri), and it's just as amusing there.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Professor Beef
Banned
Three members of SonicGAF have glasses? Are they at least like Robotnik's from Sonic 06?
I have glasses but I have to stop wearing them until my hair grows out. They make my hair curl.
People who spend lots of time on the internet wear glasses, news at 11.
I also have glasses. Hopefully contacts in the near future, although it's so much easier to just throw on glasses and call it a day.
Professor Beef
Banned
Not me. I've got 20/20 vision. I CAN SEE EVERYTHING.
PhantomOfTheKnight
Member
Seven Force
Banned
I have glasses because I was one of those "sit right in front of the fucking television without any regard for my eyesight" kids. >_>
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