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Sonic the Hedgehog Community Thread: Green Hills and Laughing Iizukas

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TheOGB

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I only felt bad once because in Roulette Road I got pushed through the rail and off the course; when I landed I was in 8th place and crossed the finish line. The race ended, but that was actually just the 2nd lap. Everbody but me got a DNF, and I got some ridiculous time and, for some reason, a ridiculous point boost despite still "finishing 8th". I later went on with that same group and destroyed them legitimately.
 

iavi

Member
It was ported by SEGA of China, yeah, but it doesn't have resolution issues that previous SEGA of China ports had, it even supports non-16:9 resolutions well.

1440x900 with 4xSSAA forced through the graphics drivers:

Thx. It seemed like there was no upscaling being done, but I'm no expert, so I couldn't tell. I just noticed the same launcher, remember the issues ep2 had, and said 'fuuuuck'.

Anyway, on a 2.4 C2D/8600GT I get 60fps@1680x1050. There isn't an extra graphical option to be seen, but that can all be forced from the outside, and the port is rock stable.
 
The SA1 level? What's confusing about it?

Visually there was too much going on the stage at times, especially with the lighting.

And I just got introduced to my first
mirror mode course
, talk about trial by fire. And Lag...warping magically in spots and lag.
 

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Visually there was too much going on the stage at times, especially with the lighting.

And I just got introduced to my first
mirror mode course
, talk about trial by fire. And Lag...warping magically in spots and lag.

Oh wait... you're talking about the Sonic racing game? I thought they have a Starlight Carnival level not Casinopolis.
 

Dark Schala

Eloquent Princess
Yup! Got suckered into buying Adventure Time by a friend who works at EB. He put me in a really good mood so I relented because it was the last CE they had.

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Too bad I still have these to finish off. ;___;


Might play a bit of ASR:T on the weekend when I get an exam out of the way.

Not the best in the series by any means, but it's got the advantage of having its own distinct flavor. The Tallarico/Drossin/Jacques tag team is solid if not overly memorable, and on the whole it's probably Senoue's best performance post-SA1 between all the folksy ballads, punching out two of his best boss themes, and momentarily jamming a mean Spanish guitar.

Just another fine example of how extraordinarily varied Sonic music is.
I have to agree with the Senoue part (well, you know what I think of SA2 anyway). If there's anything I love about Sega's music department(s), it's that they seem to like taking input from anyone or collaborating with a bunch of people, westerners or easterners alike. I wish more companies would do this sort of thing because the outcome of assembling a team composed of people from the East and West was wonderful.

Honestly, it's stuff like that which makes me wonder why a lot of people on GAF just outright dismiss western music as being samey or like movie scores when there are numerous examples of western-composed soundtracks which are just as 'rhythmic' or catchy as Japanese BGMs (which I suppose they're looking for).

What's your favorite track? I like Dragon's Lair and Molten Mine.
A lot! Even the cutscene themes are well-composed. Molten Mine's awesome, as is Deep Woods (nice backing guitar and xylophone). I can't resist violins and strings so stuff like Misty Lake, Fight the Knight (strings ver), etc. are up my alley. I love the bass in Titanic Plain. Like Sciz pointed out, the boss themes are fantastic. And I like the vocal themes a lot. I've warmed up to them a lot, at least.

The soundtrack--likely because of the people involved--reminds me a lot of older CD ROM / PCE / Sega CD soundtracks for some reason.
 
Honestly, it's stuff like that which makes me wonder why a lot of people on GAF just outright dismiss western music as being samey or like movie scores when there are numerous examples of western-composed soundtracks which are just as 'rhythmic' or catchy as Japanese BGMs (which I suppose they're looking for).
There've been good examples of that in the past, certainly; pretty much any soundtrack Alexander Brandon or the Follin brothers have worked on, for instance. I'm struggling to think of many non-indie-game instances of a western-developed game having memorably catchy background music this generation, though. I suppose Halo's soundtrack is pretty good, but I only ever really played the first one (and I never got any farther in that than The Library, so) - plus that's last generation. I know a lot of people laud Deus Ex: Human Revolution's soundtrack, but I seriously can't remember any of that beyond "Icarus" and the FEMA base; the first game's was miles better.

As far as Black Knight goes, I haven't listened to it much, but the one that was literally ripped from a totally unrelated helicopter game for the PS1/Saturn (Molten Mine I think) stuck with me pretty well.
 
I don't want to be part of the problem, but Sonic Adventure 2 is $5 with PS+ this week. I'm so tempted. :(

Conversely, I can get Jet Set Radio and Sonic Adventure 1 + DLC instead. But I can't remember if SA1 is still playable or not, since it's been way too long.
 

Pietepiet

Member
I think SA2 is still a great platformer. Controls fine and the HD release makes it look real nice and sharp.

I can't play SA1 anymore. It's aged so horribly.
 
I think SA2 is still a great platformer. Controls fine and the HD release makes it look real nice and sharp.

I can't play SA1 anymore. It's aged so horribly.

I'm not the biggest fan of Sonic Adventure but I think it's still very much playable. The stages still look great, especially Twinkle Park which I think is the highlight of it. SA2 is playable to me as far as Sonic/Shadow are concerned.
 
Adventure 2 feels more playable than Adventure 1 to me, though 1 has the better speed stages.

Plus Beef you're always part of a problem, what's one more problem to add to your gargantuan pile?
 

TheOGB

Banned
I think SA2 is still a great platformer. Controls fine and the HD release makes it look real nice and sharp.

I can't play SA1 anymore. It's aged so horribly.
I actually enjoyed playing through SA1 again. Playing through SA2 was kinda stressful, but it got better when I could pick who to play as and when, and avoid the terrible levels.
 
More Sonic and Shadow levels and I would love SA2 completely. Oh yes...and I really wish Shadow had stayed dead, it was such a perfect sendoff.
 
I blame the GTA thing catching on. Okay I'm aware he was very popular when he was introduced, shoot I thought he was pretty darn cool UNTIL they brought him back but the GTA factor cannot be ignored.
 

Kokonoe

Banned
GTA is definitely a reason why Shadow ended up like that. Shadow wasn't like that however in SA2.

They could have brought him back without destroying the character, but that's Sonic Team for you.
 
GTA is definitely a reason why Shadow ended up like that. Shadow wasn't like that however in SA2.

They could have brought him back without destroying the character, but that's Sonic Team for you.

Oh no, he was not like that in the game, I just blame GTA and lazy developers like ST for trying to go where the money is at. Or where they think it's at.
 
I saw how much kids LOVED Shadow first hand. As soon as that one in-game screenshot of Shadow was shown(the one where his back turned the camera and looking over his shoulder), my little brother was like I MUST PLAY THIS GAME PLEASE BUY THIS MOM

I started with Team Evil because, why not, let's be Robotnik for a change. Played through that, and as a soon as Shadow showed up, little mothafucka RIPPED the controller from my hands for the boss fight. This went on for awhile every time a Shadow stage would start. Back then, he was in love with that guy.

Nowadays?

"Hey Jordan, you know there's a new Shadow the Hedgehog game coming out?"

"Shadow fuckin' sucks" *continues to play CoD: Black Op II*

edit: found it

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The picture that created a million Shadow fanboys. Every Shadow fanfic/fanart can be traced back to this reveal picture. I AM JET BLACK WITH RED HIGHLIGHTS SONIC. I AM THE COOLEST CHARACTER EVER IF YOU'RE IN MIDDLE SCHOOL.
 

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I saw how much kids LOVED Shadow first hand. As soon as that one in-game screenshot of Shadow was shown(the one where his back turned the camera and looking over his shoulder), my little brother was like I MUST PLAY THIS GAME PLEASE BUY THIS MOM

I started with Team Evil because, why not, let's be Robotnik for a change. Played through that, and as a soon as Shadow showed up, little mothafucka RIPPED the controller from my hands for the boss fight. This went on for awhile every time a Shadow stage would start. Back then, he was in love with that guy.

Nowadays?

"Hey Jordan, you know there's a new Shadow the Hedgehog game coming out?"

"Shadow fuckin' sucks" *continues to play CoD: Black Op II*

edit: found it

611770-son2dc008_super.jpg


The picture that created a million Shadow fanboys. Every Shadow fanfic/fanart can be traced back to this reveal picture. I AM JET BLACK WITH RED HIGHLIGHTS SONIC. I AM THE COOLEST CHARACTER EVER IF YOU'RE IN MIDDLE SCHOOL.

Pretty much why I can't stand that little fucker.
 

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But but... I must live up to my name now! q_q

I admit he was okay in SA2 though. But after that? No. NEVER. Except for that one time he roundhouse kicked Silver. He almost redeemed himself there... almost.
 

Christopher

Member
Sonic heroes and shadow was the beginning of the end of the great streak of sonic games after adventure 2 they easily could have just mirrored another adventure game but the shit shit we got after that was crazy...

Heroes sucked so bad the disappointment from me was awful

Shadow was the worst game I ever played...ever

Sonic 06 crushed me as I thought it was truly Adventre 3 but lacked ya know fun gameplay

Secret rings and black knight equally sucked

Unleashed and colors is where we start to coke back but man I can't stress enough how disappointing heroes was
 
I actually thought Heroes was pretty fun. The aspect I hated was having to do all the stages over and over and over again. Once was enough guys. And the emerald courses were super lameo. USE NOTHING BUT BLUE SPHERE.
 

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Out of all of the awful 3D Sonic games, Sonic Heroes was the least shitty. There were some aspects of the game I actually liked though.

I don't actually consider Unleashed awful.
 

Kokonoe

Banned
Well, as I've mentioned before, I originally didn't like Shadow and thought he was nothing more than a waste of a space when I first saw the character revealed.(this was when I was much younger) I felt the character was just there to rob Sonic of his spotlight, but once I actually played the game It made me flip everything around of how I felt about the character. I dislike how he came back in Heroes, but I could have dealt with it I guess... However, his inclusion in Shadow The Hedgehog butchered the character beyond repair, and they further made this the case with Sonic 2006.

The Shadow I like is from Adventure 2, and that to me is the last game where Sonic Team was on their S Rank game for Sonic titles. (and yes I liked Heroes when I played it)

But but... I must live up to my name now! q_q

well, I guess that's true.
 
I don't have a lot of ill will towards Shadow himself. I just wish he stayed dead in SA2, since that was...a pretty clear end to his story arc >_>

But no, he's the Wolverine of the series, dark and mysterious badass, has to show up everywhere.
 
I don't have a lot of ill will towards Shadow himself. I just wish he stayed dead in SA2, since that was...a pretty clear end to his story arc >_>

But no, he's the Wolverine of the series, dark and mysterious badass, has to show up everywhere.

Not a fair enough comparision, he needs a movie first!
 

BlackJace

Member
Sonic, Knuckles, Tails, Amy. MAYBE Blaze.

This is all they need.
Of course, they can throw any extras they want into the awesome comics though
 

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I haven't read the comics past issue 20 (I only own legacy vol 1) so I can't say.


Also as for characters that should be in the next Sonic games:

Sonic
Tails
Knuckles
Maybe Blaze. Forget Amy.

Robotnik as always is the villain but let's throw in Nack. He had potential!
 

Sciz

Member
The comics are weird for me. Sometimes I like parts of Ian's run and other times...I'm not. Anyone with mixed feelings on how he does things?

His dialogue's always spot on. His plotting and pacing... vary.

edit: Scourge is the best Sonic knockoff though, if only because he's two or three levels of meta-joke simultaneously.
 
His dialogue's always spot on. His plotting and pacing... vary.

Yep, I never hated his dialogue. That was always pretty entertaining...for the good reasons. I thought his pacing started off good and then after the
Moebius Invasion
I thought almost every arc just dragged too long. The plotting...eh. He kinda mishandled a favorite villain of mine.

Scourge
is tolerable in doses...not now though. He needs to not show for a long long while. And I wonder when
Sir Nose devoid of Funk aka Snively
will return. Hopefully he gets a new shtick.
 

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Trying SA2 demo on PSN. Holy shit the Omochao can destroy anything. I activated it and lured it into crates and robots and they both get destroyed. And no, I wasn't throwing the Omochao. He actually destroyed them himself. holy shit
 
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