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Sonic the Hedgehog Community Thread: Green Hills and Laughing Iizukas
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Box of Bunnies
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Chao rule everything around me C.R.E.A.M.
tiggerkiddo
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The emeralds were too easy to get in the other games so they had to compensate!
Box of Bunnies
Banned
why Dimps?
The eternal question.
tiggerkiddo
Member
I forgive them because the music is catchy.
Nocturnowl
Member
Funny Sega1991 should put Pulseman on the list, it's on my previously mentioned list of games I may splurge on with remaining points, but if its hard then hmmmmm.
I should mention most games there are in that big Genesis/Mega Drive Collection and I can't get into Dynamite Headdy or Vectorman at all.
In fact Vectorman is nuts, I don't think i've ever got past the first stage in it or its sequel, a visual clutter where you drop dead in 3 hits.
Now Shinobi 3, there's a game.
I should mention most games there are in that big Genesis/Mega Drive Collection and I can't get into Dynamite Headdy or Vectorman at all.
In fact Vectorman is nuts, I don't think i've ever got past the first stage in it or its sequel, a visual clutter where you drop dead in 3 hits.
Now Shinobi 3, there's a game.
I unlocked Amy in Advance 2 back when it came out, it was a bit of work for such a small reward though... she just plays like Sonic with a Hammer No unique Amy like in Advance 1. Was quite a let down.
That said, for whatever reason I enjoyed Advance 2 the most out of the Advance games, great for time attack once you got used to the levels and learned the best tracks. Bosses were awful though.
Advice for getting all the emeralds: look up somebody doing it on youtube! There's a very specific track to follow to find those magic rings or whatever they were.
No unique Amy like in Advance 1. Was quite a let down.That said, for whatever reason I enjoyed Advance 2 the most out of the Advance games, great for time attack once you got used to the levels and learned the best tracks. Bosses were awful though.
Advice for getting all the emeralds: look up somebody doing it on youtube! There's a very specific track to follow to find those magic rings or whatever they were.
I remember going through Advance 2 pretty painlessly until Techno Base, which I'm not a huge fan of. Once I beat the game with (almost) everyone it was off to GameFAQs and Neoseeker (HA!) to find those DAMN SP Rings. Once you know these paths you will never go any other way ._.
Bosses were a pain but I loved jumping as I ran up a hill and getting crazy air, sometimes enough to bypass the boss' usual bullshit and score a free hit.
But yeah, alright game, full of (Dimps) bullshit. Call me when we decide to replay Advance 3, I'll be waiting at Twinkle Snow still trying to beat that fucking boss
Bosses were a pain but I loved jumping as I ran up a hill and getting crazy air, sometimes enough to bypass the boss' usual bullshit and score a free hit.
But yeah, alright game, full of (Dimps) bullshit. Call me when we decide to replay Advance 3, I'll be waiting at Twinkle Snow still trying to beat that fucking boss
tiggerkiddo
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I found the Advance 2 bosses very easy...
I unlocked Amy in Advance 2 back when it came out, it was a bit of work for such a small reward though... she just plays like Sonic with a Hammer
That said, for whatever reason I enjoyed Advance 2 the most out of the Advance games, great for time attack once you got used to the levels and learned the best tracks. Bosses were awful though.
Advice for getting all the emeralds: look up somebody doing it on youtube! There's a very specific track to follow to find those magic rings or whatever they were.
Still painful because if you mess up on the special stage, you'd have to recollect the rings again. Not to mention you'd have to do this at least 28+ times
Not seriously worth the effort
tiggerkiddo
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The answer to all of this is still Blue Sphere.
tiggerkiddo
Member
Never tried it but maybe I should!
Lord British
Member
I enjoyed Chao hunting in Advance 3.
I think all the Advance games are great fun in their own ways.
I think all the Advance games are great fun in their own ways.
Well as long as you didn't enjoy Advance 2's special rings hunting... I mean only a crazy masochist would love that!
tiggerkiddo
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Put down the Haterade qq.
tiggerkiddo
Member
You're such a hater!
BlazeHedgehog
Member
The Special Stages in the Sonic Advance games really are generally bullshit, though. Dimps seemed to be obsessed with finding "unique" ways to make special stages accessible, but they were always just way too tedious, especially when you consider you didn't even get "real" Super Sonic or anything for your efforts.
It was ESPECIALLY annoying in Advance 2, because you had to explore levels to find the SP Rings. But since levels were frequently designed to make backtracking difficult if not impossible, if you missed a ring you had to quit the entire stage and start over. The worst!
It was ESPECIALLY annoying in Advance 2, because you had to explore levels to find the SP Rings. But since levels were frequently designed to make backtracking difficult if not impossible, if you missed a ring you had to quit the entire stage and start over. The worst!
tiggerkiddo
Member
Circle of hate going on in here!
Nocturnowl
Member
Embrace the hate like a big red rage machine.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Can't wait for the VGAs and that Sonic Adventure 3
reveal
DS by Dimps
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I take an early night and sleep for 14-16 hours and wake up to find that y'all be hatin' on errrrything in here.
I ask myself this every day.qq more said:why Dimps?
No one at the VGAs cares about handhelds!
Shadow Hog
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In addition to what qq more and Sega1991 said, I would also recommend:
- The Streets of Rage series (particularly 2)
- Wonder Boy in Monster World (kinda like Zelda 2, but actually fun)
- Monster World IV (first official release outside Japan, and in English, too! Kinda wish Pulseman got the same treatment...)
- Shining Force (like Fire Emblem but without permadeath)
- Shining in the Darkness (the game Shining Force is a sequel to; more like an old-school first-person dungeon crawler mixed with JRPG mechanics)
- Landstalker (haven't really put any time into this despite owning a CIB copy, but it gets high praise when it comes up in Genesis game discussions)
- Light Crusader (Treasure game, isometric Zelda-like title; definitely not their best work, but all at once I rather like the thing)
- Mega Turrican (never played a Turrican game but they're typically fondly-remembered, and this is actually the definitive version of Turrican 3 here, with some really kickass music)
- Strider (early arcade port by Capcom, but it's a pretty swell game, if a bit overly linear)
- Shanghai II: Dragon's Eye (which is actually just Mahjongg Solitaire, and I would recommend any of the other games mentioned before coming to this one, but it has a competitive mode against the computer or a friend that can't be found anywhere else - the titular "Dragon's Eye" game - which I found quite fun to play).
I really, really want Nintendo to make these available for U-Pad play sooner than later, ideally without me having to rebuy everything.
Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine
Shadow Hog
Member
Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean = Big Red Rage
He should probably see a doctor about that
A medical one
Professor Beef
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You can hunt and kill Chao in Advance 3? :O
nintendoman58
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Holy crap. Do not remind me of Advance 2 or Advance 3.
Those games haunted me. I remember when I thought that beating the final boss with all characters would give me Super Sonic.
Oh how naive I was back then.
Getting the chaos emeralds as Sonic was a nightmare back then. Getting those seven "special rings" to get to the special stage involved me searching for every single alternate path and not dying. A couple screw-ups, and you gotta start alll over again.
Then there was the special stages. These things were brutal. For those who don't know, you had to constantly get rings to build up a multiplier and pray to God that rings would magically show up in front of you when running away with a 3x multiplier from zero to get the amount of rings you needed. Fail? Get back to the stage and get those rings again.
It was like climbing Mt. Everest only for another mountain to show up once you got to the top.
Getting the chaos emeralds at least once in that game felt like a huge acommplishment to me back then.
And don't get me started on Advance 3. As soon as I was greeted with all these different character options and that hell of a confusing hub world, I was out. I could barely progress back then much less get the chaos emeralds!
Those games haunted me. I remember when I thought that beating the final boss with all characters would give me Super Sonic.
Oh how naive I was back then.
Getting the chaos emeralds as Sonic was a nightmare back then. Getting those seven "special rings" to get to the special stage involved me searching for every single alternate path and not dying. A couple screw-ups, and you gotta start alll over again.
Then there was the special stages. These things were brutal. For those who don't know, you had to constantly get rings to build up a multiplier and pray to God that rings would magically show up in front of you when running away with a 3x multiplier from zero to get the amount of rings you needed. Fail? Get back to the stage and get those rings again.
It was like climbing Mt. Everest only for another mountain to show up once you got to the top.
Getting the chaos emeralds at least once in that game felt like a huge acommplishment to me back then.
And don't get me started on Advance 3. As soon as I was greeted with all these different character options and that hell of a confusing hub world, I was out. I could barely progress back then much less get the chaos emeralds!
Shadow Hog
Member
Sonic leads, Tails partners. Enough to get you through every act and see the main ending. I don't think it's the optimal partnership (wasn't that Knuckles w/ Amy or something?), but you're just trying to beat the game, not totally rape it.
I mean, I agree with your opinion on Advance 2, but I actually kinda like Advance 3.
tiggerkiddo
Member
Advance 3 was the best, it seemed the most polished for sure and at least once you found all the Chao for a level, getting to the special stage was relatively easy.
Those could be some great subtitles for the Sonic 4 series if they continue forward with them.
Sonic 4 Episode 3: Embrace the Hate.
tiggerkiddo
Member
You obviously haven't played SNK fighters then...
Shadow Hog
Member
Oh Lord no, the first Advance was the best. Advance 3 was fun, but it doesn't hold a candle to the first one.
Metal Sonic is worse than Geese Howard.
tiggerkiddo
Member
Geese is the least of your worries...Rugal? Krizalid? Zero? Iginz? Guy from KOF XI?
tiggerkiddo
Member
And I had no trouble with Geesey...=D
But I digress...
This demo needs to be longer for me...fun game but it's so disorientating to have it stop like that so soon!
But I digress...
This demo needs to be longer for me...fun game but it's so disorientating to have it stop like that so soon!
Seven Force
Banned
Yeah, Metal Sonic is cheap as hell in StF. Especially that damned spinning attack. Feels satisfying if you actually manage to get Super Sonic during that fight, though.
And if we're naming cheap ass fighting game bosses...
Accept no substitutes.
And if we're naming cheap ass fighting game bosses...
Accept no substitutes.
I have absolutely no idea so many people here actually likes this game. Maybe I should really let go of that anger towards the special stage and replay the game again. (I always thought it was mostly bland though.) I just never see what was so good about the game outside of Music Plant.
Don't listen to the Pope's lies! Triple Trouble is superior!
I'm hearing so many mixed things about StF. This is probably one of the few times I've seen anyone praising the game. Not that it's a bad thing because I want to play this game.
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