I like LTTP the way it is... at least its music. Just something about that soundfont I really like
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Sonic the Hedgehog Community Thread: Green Hills and Laughing Iizukas
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ViewtifulJC
Banned
Zelda's been downhill since Link's Awakening(or LTTP, whichever came last)
Banjo-Kazooie is REEEAL close to that near-perfect point for me. One of, if not my number one, favorite games ever. If only the note count was saved after leaving a level.
I really can't tolerate any of the GG Sonic games... I think it's the puke color palette.
why did nintendo have such an obsession with end game fetch quests during the gamecube era
hurt metroid prime and wind waker =(
It's my favorite game of all time for a reason. Hell, half the artifacts are able to be randomly run into during the normal progression.
Box of Bunnies
Banned
They needed to get the games out but didn't have enough content so they padded the length with fetch quests.
Hot Coldman
Banned
How is this PS2 over-rated? It has one of the largest catalogues of any console with so many amazing games. How many consoles were home to classic new releases for 9 years?
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Dreamcast is overrated
Hot Coldman
Banned
Okami
Persona 3/4
SMT3 Lucifer's Call
Ico
Shadow of the Colossus
God Hand
Bully
Jak and Daxter
Sly Cooper
Ratchet and Clank 1/2
Yakuza 1/2
Tony Hawk 3
Final Fantasy XII
That's just off the top of my head.
Persona 3/4
SMT3 Lucifer's Call
Ico
Shadow of the Colossus
God Hand
Bully
Jak and Daxter
Sly Cooper
Ratchet and Clank 1/2
Yakuza 1/2
Tony Hawk 3
Final Fantasy XII
That's just off the top of my head.
Box of Bunnies
Banned
You missed a couple.
OVER RATED
Those games aren't god tier. They're high tier. Which I admit is an area PS2 probably beats GC. More good games, not great games.
Also, I'm talking exclusives (and I consider RE4 an exclusive cause the PS2 version is horseshit)
Other good Gamecube games:
Sunshine
Prime 2
Eternal Darkness
Soul Calibur 2 (best version)
Viewtiful Joe (best version)
Twilight Princess (best version)
Pikmin 2
Wave Race
Luigi's Mansion
DK Jungle Beat
fuck what a good console
Those games aren't god tier. They're high tier. Which I admit is an area PS2 probably beats GC. More good games, not great games.
Also, I'm talking exclusives (and I consider RE4 an exclusive cause the PS2 version is horseshit)
Other good Gamecube games:
Sunshine
Prime 2
Eternal Darkness
Soul Calibur 2 (best version)
Viewtiful Joe (best version)
Twilight Princess (best version)
Pikmin 2
Wave Race
Luigi's Mansion
DK Jungle Beat
fuck what a good console
ViewtifulJC
Banned
"those games aren't god tier"
*mentions Sunshine, Luigi's Mansion, Prime 2, and DK freakin' Jungle Beat*
Ok, son
and PS2 version of Viewtiful Joe had Dante, hold dat shit
*mentions Sunshine, Luigi's Mansion, Prime 2, and DK freakin' Jungle Beat*
Ok, son
and PS2 version of Viewtiful Joe had Dante, hold dat shit
Hot Coldman
Banned
You're the one who set the god-tier bar at fucking San Andreas.
What's wrong with the game other than that it's just too short/easy?
Box of Bunnies
Banned
And games that he himself admits are "hurt by fetch quests".
ViewtifulJC
Banned
If we talking console exclusives, Xbox got the shortest stick that gen I think
Ninja Gaiden (Black)
Halo 1
Halo 2
Otogi
Panzer Dragoon Orta
KOTOR
Chronicles of Riddick
Crimson Skies
I think that's it. It did usually get the best version of multi-platform games and I've lost SO many hours of my life to it's XBL play, but it is what it is.
Ninja Gaiden (Black)
Halo 1
Halo 2
Otogi
Panzer Dragoon Orta
KOTOR
Chronicles of Riddick
Crimson Skies
I think that's it. It did usually get the best version of multi-platform games and I've lost SO many hours of my life to it's XBL play, but it is what it is.
Box of Bunnies
Banned
All three systems had games that made them worth owning last gen but the fact is that the Xbox and GCN served best as companions to a PS2, and I say that as someone who got a 'cube at launch.
tiggerkiddo
Member
I never owned a Box sadly. Gamecube and PS2 for sure and mainly the PS2.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I probably played more hours in my GC/Xbox because of the multiplayer(SO many hours of Melee/Halo 2), but if I could only have one system and game library on a desert island, PS2 would probably be it(if we exclude PC/emulation and shit).
I find Nintendo consoles are always secondary now. Dat third party support be lackin, b. Back in the day, you could buy a SNES and be set. Awesome nintendo games + a shitload of third party exclusives. And not just Random Joe company, but Square(FF, Secret of Mana, CT, SMRPG, etc), Konami(Turtles in Time, Contra 3, SCV 4, Ganbare Goemon 1-4, Gradius III, etc), Capcom(MMX1-3, FF3, BoF2, Demon's Crest), you name it.
Now I'm surprised whenever a Wii U version gets announced for anything
I find Nintendo consoles are always secondary now. Dat third party support be lackin, b. Back in the day, you could buy a SNES and be set. Awesome nintendo games + a shitload of third party exclusives. And not just Random Joe company, but Square(FF, Secret of Mana, CT, SMRPG, etc), Konami(Turtles in Time, Contra 3, SCV 4, Ganbare Goemon 1-4, Gradius III, etc), Capcom(MMX1-3, FF3, BoF2, Demon's Crest), you name it.
Now I'm surprised whenever a Wii U version gets announced for anything
good
good tier
not god tier
GOD
NES and SNES were the complete package.
I feel N64 and GC lost the third party support (though people forget GC had some pretty good stuff from third parties, just overshadowed by the fucked up support PS2 was getting from everyone under the sun), but the first party support was so strong that the consoles were still able to stand on two feet. I'd rather have a GC and it's library on a desert island for that reason.
Wii, on the other hand... didn't do it for me at all. Not even the first party support was enough. 360 absolutely demolished it in every way this gen. Starting this gen, the Nintendo console became secondary.
It doesn't look like that will be changing with the Wii U. I wish they got back to that SNES mentality. Maybe next gen...
Professor Beef
Banned
The only reason I don't put Wind Waker over Majora's Mask is because WW is incomplete. I loved every single bit of WW otherwise. Never a dull moment. Majora > WW > Awakening.
Metroid was dead to me the moment it turned into an FPS. Played it, hated it, gave it back to my friend and told him to never mention it to me again.
Metroid was dead to me the moment it turned into an FPS. Played it, hated it, gave it back to my friend and told him to never mention it to me again.
Hot Coldman
Banned
I totally fucked up getting a Cube before a PS2. Still, at least Ubisoft had decent support for it. XIII, son.
Calling Prime an FPS means you've already lost the debate.
Calling Prime an FPS means you've already lost the debate.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
GameCube for cutest console ever
Also, at least they got off on the right foot lauching Melee a month after the launch, right in time for X-Mas. I'll never forget playing that first match on Corneia with my brother and two bots. I would randomly pause the action just to marvel at Fox's fur, or Bowser's model, much to the annoyance of my brother.
Wii U best game for me so far is a 2d platformer that looks like a higher-res version of the Wii counterpart(that didn't look all that good in the first place). It's good, but there's a sense that you done all this shit just the other day; it's a not a game I get excited about like Melee or Halo was.
Also, at least they got off on the right foot lauching Melee a month after the launch, right in time for X-Mas. I'll never forget playing that first match on Corneia with my brother and two bots. I would randomly pause the action just to marvel at Fox's fur, or Bowser's model, much to the annoyance of my brother.
Wii U best game for me so far is a 2d platformer that looks like a higher-res version of the Wii counterpart(that didn't look all that good in the first place). It's good, but there's a sense that you done all this shit just the other day; it's a not a game I get excited about like Melee or Halo was.
tiggerkiddo
Member
I found I loved an equal number of PS2 and Gamecube games. And the Gamecube list is growing as of late.
I'm just not touching Prime since I hate FPS.
I'm just not touching Prime since I hate FPS.
Box of Bunnies
Banned
Nintendo's output on the Wii stomps all over their N64 and Gamecube efforts combined. The only argument to the contrary is Donkey Kong Jungle Beat (F-Zero GX, being a Sega joint, doesn't count).
Professor Beef
Banned
Gamecube will always have a soft spot in my heart. From literally thousands of hours of Melee, to Wind Waker, and other great stuff, I've had tons of fun with it. My friends even chipped in one birthday and got me another Cube for me when my cousin's was stolen.
And of course DEF JAM: FIGHT FOR NEW YORK. I only wanted to play it because the concept of a fighting game with Def Jam of all labels seemed so "out there" (and because I never had a chance to play Vendetta. I popped it in, went through one of the best gotdamn CAW systems there is, and noticed that AKI had their hands in it, and I knew it was something that could never be topped.
Oh yeah, and Sonic games of course.
And of course DEF JAM: FIGHT FOR NEW YORK. I only wanted to play it because the concept of a fighting game with Def Jam of all labels seemed so "out there" (and because I never had a chance to play Vendetta. I popped it in, went through one of the best gotdamn CAW systems there is, and noticed that AKI had their hands in it, and I knew it was something that could never be topped.
Oh yeah, and Sonic games of course.
Hot Coldman
Banned
I feel like loving a Def Jam game and hating GOTY 2003 Metroid Prime sums up Beef pretty well.
Galaxy 1 and 2>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sunshine
DKCR>Jungle Beat (both amazing games, Returns is slightly better with a classic controller)
Xenoblade
That's about all the Wii's got.
WW and TP>>>>TP and SS
Melee>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Brawl
Prime 1 and 2>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Prime 3 and Other M
F-Zero existed on Gamecube
Pikmin existed on Gamecube
Paper Mario 2>>>Super Paper Mario
Same deal with N64.
Professor Beef
Banned
If they made a 2D version of Metroid Prime, then I would give it another shot. The series might as well not exist to me anymore until they make more 2D entries.
Hot Coldman
Banned
They already made a 2D Prime. It was called Super Metroid.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Def Jam: Fight for NY hate?
Ban Green Scar
Ban Green Scar
Professor Beef
Banned
They should drop 3D and motion controls and make more 2D Metroids. Zero Mission and Fusion aren't enough.
He's got two strikes now because of this.
Brawl isn't a bad game but WHATEVER MAN
Also Wii had 2 Kirby platformers, Punch Out and RHYTHM HEAVEN
ColtraineGF
Member
Def Jam Vendetta is one of my favorite wrestling games on GameCube. Boo all haters 
I didn't talk about video games on the net or used the net much during that era so I had no idea the PS2 was leading in sales by such a substantial margin. It was like I was living in a different dimension cause everyone around me had Gamecubes and we were always talking about that and playing GC games.
But yeah, I definitely prefer Gamecube and it's my second favorite console ever.
But yeah, I definitely prefer Gamecube and it's my second favorite console ever.
Shadow Hog
Member
C'mon man
Also had the only console version of Morrowind, for what that's worth (probably not much, as a PC game), and was the only place to play Munch's Oddysee up until the Oddboxx, for what that's worth. I suppose Midtown Madness 3 falls under whatever category Morrowind falls under, but whatever, it was fun.
The thing that bugs me about those is that the games feel perfectly nice, lengthy, and fleshed out even without them. Never did see the need.
Gamecube was the only console I had in that generation and I didn't get anything else until way later. I loved it, but man seeing my Ps2 and Xbox having friends get cool multiplats that the Gamecube didn't get at all was pretty shitty.
I think SS is better than TP.
We lost F-Zero and Pikmin for Kirby and Punch Out >_>
Rhythm Heaven is fun for 5 hours, forgot about it. I wouldn't call it a great game by any means, though.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
C'mon man
Right
also, Stranger's Wrath is a great game, but dat framerate is so bad/inconsistent, that it seems incomplete until the recent HD update
IDK, I think we were overdue for a proper console Kirby. F-Zero was probably a fair tradeoff anyway, as I really can't imagine a Wii game improving too much from GX.
True
(is it safe to count NPC Pikmin? they added some improvements to the games, but if not then that's okay)
let's agree to disagree then
personally I think the game itself is amazing so far
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I never had a Gamecube in that era, so I just played catch-up on the Wii.
<3 Backwards-compatibility
<3 Backwards-compatibility
Atmospherically and replay-wise. My bf likes it more than I do, and he thinks it's near-flawless. I haven't played it enough times to make an accurate "it's perfect" judgement, tbh.
tiggerkiddo
Member
Speaking of Gamecube games...I'm gonna try out Skies of Arcadia one of these bloody days.
Playing Gamecube games on the Wii drives me nuts because I have to pick up the Wii remote, point at the Disc Channel on the screen, select START, then put it down and pick up the GC controller.
'course that's one of the reasons I still keep my GameCube. That and the Game Boy Player.
AB
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LUTE
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What sucks even more is that the Classic Controller can navigate the menus with the analog stick so there really is no point to why they won't let you.
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