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Sonic the Hedgehog Community Thread: Green Hills and Laughing Iizukas
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Shadow Hog
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I played some more Colors last night.
Starlight Carnival was pretty much the only stage in the game that I knew nothing about going in, and, well, woah. I was expecting something more like a glitzy carnival (IN SPACE!), and instead got a gravity-flipping, ribbon-running dash past a friggin' armada teleporting in from who-knows-where. Rather liked the boss, too.
Asteroid Coaster 1 was pretty swell; that TAS helped me know what to expect from it, at any rate. Asteroid Coaster 2, however... well, let's put it this way: I came in with 14 or so lives, and left with 3 and a D-rank. A good half of those were spent just trying to reach the first checkpoint (and restarting when I messed up without reaching it). Such an awkward stage.
Starlight Carnival was pretty much the only stage in the game that I knew nothing about going in, and, well, woah. I was expecting something more like a glitzy carnival (IN SPACE!), and instead got a gravity-flipping, ribbon-running dash past a friggin' armada teleporting in from who-knows-where. Rather liked the boss, too.
Asteroid Coaster 1 was pretty swell; that TAS helped me know what to expect from it, at any rate. Asteroid Coaster 2, however... well, let's put it this way: I came in with 14 or so lives, and left with 3 and a D-rank. A good half of those were spent just trying to reach the first checkpoint (and restarting when I messed up without reaching it). Such an awkward stage.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Seven Force
Banned
I think Jungle Joyride is probably my favorite Unleashed stage from a visual standpoint, if only for the parts that have you running deep in jungle.
Shadow Hog
Member
I recall giving up on Unleashed somewhere around Dragon Road Day, honestly. I kept on dying at the platforming segments, and wasn't terribly enthused by how trial-and-error the whole gameplay seemed to be. This was before Generations basically sold me on said gameplay, mind, so one of these days I should go back and fini... well, at least reach Eggmanland, if not actually finish it.
RobbieNick
Junior Member
On PS3. yes but it will CONSTANTLY remind you that you have a third party save and will not earn any trophies..... constantly.
Cool. I'd prefer to play it on PS3 anyway and don't care about trophies.
Seven Force
Banned
Yeah, I just downloaded a PS3 save from online. Didn't feel like bothering with the Werehog stuff.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Anything associated with Adabat is gorgeous, really.
I love the presentation (music+art direction) of almost every location in that game so much.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
The only act I wasn't so hot on from Unleashed was Empire City. Especially compared to what they did with an urban environment in Rooftop Run, Empire City just felt too much like SA era Speed Highway/Radical Highway style of "run on giant random roads a hundred feet above the ground of a metropolis"
Maybe you'll get lucky and have the almost glitch free run of Sonic '06 that I had.
To be honest I'm enjoying Unleashed a lot. At first I didn't really like it but it kind of grew on me.
The Sonic stages aren't designed as well as those in Generations (a lot more QTEs than in Generations, and sometimes it goes so fucking fast that you can't figure out what's going on around you), but they're still a blast to play. And the night stages aren't bad once you get used to the controls and level up your character a bit.
As for 06, I couldn't tell you. I've watched PokeCapn's playthrough of it and it looked awful, but I too feel like I should play it to see how patient I am. Maybe someday...
Seven Force
Banned
Anytime I ever get the urge to play through Sonic 06 (Which isn't often, thankfully), I pull up a video of Silver's Dusty Desert and/or Last Story and remind myself that if I ever do commit myself to a Sonic 06 playthrough, that's what I have to look forward to.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
I just noticed Sonic the Fighters isn't in the OP.
I don't know why I even care. I'm not a Sonic fan.
I don't know why I even care. I'm not a Sonic fan.
BlazeHedgehog
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Professor Beef
Banned
I was going by systems when making the OP, and I didn't think to look up arcade games. I also forgot completely that it was in the Sonic Gems Collection. And I didn't include Gems Collection because I was running out of space as it was + I didn't think people would mind its omission since it's a collection of games already on the list.
The Xtortionist
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Sonic Rivals: Unleashed?
RobbieNick
Junior Member
I'm playing Unleashed right now. I don't give a fuck what people think, personally, I still love that game.
BlazeHedgehog
Member
Kind of! But not lame. Maybe more like SSX, where you're racing ghosts on leaderboards.
Box of Bunnies
Banned
I ALWAYS RACE TO WIN
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
After playing both versions in December/January, I have a newfound fondness and appreciation for Unleashed. Not only does it look gorgeous and the music is wonderful, but some of the levels are rather nice.
And I don't dislike Werehog as much anymore. True, once you level him up, you can get through stages quite quickly and much faster than the 10-80 minutes that it could take you originally. Honestly, speed him up, tweak the level design a little, reduce the amount of enemy encounters, make the stages shorter (as when you do Werehog levels for the first time, they tend to overstay their welcome, and they can be somewhat grindy since enemies keep popping up) and swap him with Knuckles, and I think people might have less issues with the levels overall.
The Wii version does some levels better than Unleashed HD (ex: Eggmanland (oh, definitely Eggmanland), Cool Edge Day, etc), even.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
They call me Knuckles. Unlike Sonic I don't chuckle.
Brilliant.
Brilliant.
Box of Bunnies
Banned
That's chortling.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Sonic Adventure spoilers: HOLY FUCKING SHIT
Gamma was the daddy flickie?!!!!
High five! I love Unleashed. Hell, even the Werehog wasn't as bad as people make it out to be.
I want to like that game, including the Werehog levels but I always get so bored of them.
Day stages were good though. And the music, and the visuals. Especially the visuals.
Nocturnowl
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The super wasps and having no shadow for the platforming kill the Werehog sections outright for me, but that aside it really isn't that bad, if those sections were refined dare I say they'd be pretty fun.
I still have little idea how good most of the night time music is due to constant Werehog theme, if it weren't for the people here I would never have discovered how great the night jungle theme wa-BADADADA!
nintendoman58
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That's what I said when I got a glimpse. But Sonic Team apparently kept forgetting we knew about Sonic's Werehog transformation, so they stockpiled the Wii version (which I unfortunatlety had to deal with at the time it was released) with as many repetitive werehog levels as possible! And after playing the PS3 version, I'm GLAD I stuck with the Wii version.
I swear, on the Egg Beetle boss on the PS3 verion, the game was going so fast I could have sworn that I was playing on modified emulator settings or something on the console. It was going so fast it actually froze.
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
If he was from Taito, though, he'd be the Daddy Mulk!
Yes, though:
E-102 had a surprisingly plot-line. Amazes me how they managed to sneak it all in with good pacing and overall plot relevance.
SA1 is a contender for best writing in the series even in spite of its dialogue for a reason.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Gamma's story is a contender for best writing in the series. The rest of the game is not just bad dialogue, but also awful event planning. How many times can Eggman just steal the emeralds from the protagonists' hands?
Eggman can run faster than Sonic.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Finished watching Sonic Adventure. That was rubbish.
Does that mean Eggman is a zombie?
But Sonic's the fastest thing alive!!
Does that mean Eggman is a zombie?
He's a Robot named Nik. Robotnik
Shadow Hog
Member
Robotnikelodeon
I believe I've already said this before, but I actually kind of liked how Sonic Adventure handled the Robotnik/Eggman thing, with Eggman and his creations solidly going on the "Robotnik" side of things, and everyone else going Eggman. I recall being kind of disappointed when, in the game immediately afterward, Eggman released his blackmail video unto the world proclaiming "MY NAME IS DR. EGGMAN!" - ironically, in the same game that canonicized the Robotnik name (Gerald's last name is "Robotnik" worldwide). At least they've been consistent with using "Eggman" since...
I believe I've already said this before, but I actually kind of liked how Sonic Adventure handled the Robotnik/Eggman thing, with Eggman and his creations solidly going on the "Robotnik" side of things, and everyone else going Eggman. I recall being kind of disappointed when, in the game immediately afterward, Eggman released his blackmail video unto the world proclaiming "MY NAME IS DR. EGGMAN!" - ironically, in the same game that canonicized the Robotnik name (Gerald's last name is "Robotnik" worldwide). At least they've been consistent with using "Eggman" since...
Not too often. Straight up gassing Sonic and Tails is pretty weak, but everything else is reasonably justified.
edit: Okay, forgot about the Egg Hornet one, that one's fairly lame too.
Shadow Hog
Member
Lemme see if I remember how often he does this correctly...
Emerald 1: Steals immediately after confronting Sonic/Tails outside Tails' workshop, while their guards were down.
Emerald 2: Gasses Sonic/Tails outside Casinopolis.
Emeralds 3/4: Misleads Knuckles into knocking them off of Sonic/Tails; grabs them in the confusion.
Emerald 5: Um, I actually forget this one. (Looked it up, apparently it was the bird following Amy. Huh.)
Emerald 6: Froggy
Emerald 7: Never gets his hands on it, IIRC. Chaos grabs it independently sometime in Last Story... I forget how, exactly. (Looked this up, too, apparently Big flew the Tornado 2 off of the Egg Carrier; the emerald was used to power it, and as such, was in the wreck.)
Emerald 1: Steals immediately after confronting Sonic/Tails outside Tails' workshop, while their guards were down.
Emerald 2: Gasses Sonic/Tails outside Casinopolis.
Emeralds 3/4: Misleads Knuckles into knocking them off of Sonic/Tails; grabs them in the confusion.
Emerald 5: Um, I actually forget this one. (Looked it up, apparently it was the bird following Amy. Huh.)
Emerald 6: Froggy
Emerald 7: Never gets his hands on it, IIRC. Chaos grabs it independently sometime in Last Story... I forget how, exactly. (Looked this up, too, apparently Big flew the Tornado 2 off of the Egg Carrier; the emerald was used to power it, and as such, was in the wreck.)
BlazeHedgehog
Member
nintendoman58
Member
Is it me, or does Gamma's theme in SA1 feel very relaxing? The music really fits a robot because there's little to no emotion in it. It's tone changes slightly towards the end, like how
Damn, those composers knew what they were doing when they were told to make theme music for a robot.
Gamma's motives changed towards the end of his story
Damn, those composers knew what they were doing when they were told to make theme music for a robot.
Sonic 06 has some of my favorite NPCs ever. Simply delightful.
so thats where most of the game's budget went!
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I honestly can't remember how the original performed, but it runs fine. I think there's actually speed options in the emulator to make it run more true to the original.
EDIT: What is hatsun
Shadow Hog
Member
There's still slowdown, if that's what you wanted to know. Other than that, couldn't tell you.
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