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Sonic the Hedgehog Community Thread: Green Hills and Laughing Iizukas
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Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Oh boy, I can't wait for the outcome of this thread. I bet it's going to be like every Square-Enix thread that was created in the last six months, where a few people with their heads stuck in the sand carry on arguments for pages and pages. :/
SE's problem is like Sega's old problem:
-bad management of resources
-misusing the talent they have at their disposal
-a cruddy working environment structured not to their workers' well-being, but intended for their bottom line
-Weird QA and QC, leading to some iffy games in terms of mechanics or unpolished material
-announcing games when they haven't even started working on them!
-They are a better publisher than they are a developer. This never used to be the case, and these roles used to be equal in terms of quality.
-They don't necessarily have anyone like Sakaguchi, Uematsu, etc. who brought new talent into the company. Sakaguchi hired a bunch of folks like Ito, Kitase, Tokita, etc. and gave them experience and higher positions when he saw that they were bringing cool things to the table. Uematsu was the one who hired Hamauzu, for example. Who do they have doing the hiring now? They're picking people from smaller developers who they collaborated with -- at least Nomura is. The rest of them just seem set on carrying out their own vision as opposed to making SE secure for the future.
That company has a problem and people who don't say they have a problem have their heads stuck in the sand.
The parallels between SE and Sega just seem too numerous to ignore. At the very least, Sega seems to be digging themselves out of their hole.
I have to wonder if Iizuka's even considering hiring new blood. Perhaps the stint where he wasn't completely hands-on with the Sonic series was him trying to give other people a chance to give players their vision for the series. Well, before he started having a producer role on Sonic games.
SE's problem is like Sega's old problem:
-bad management of resources
-misusing the talent they have at their disposal
-a cruddy working environment structured not to their workers' well-being, but intended for their bottom line
-Weird QA and QC, leading to some iffy games in terms of mechanics or unpolished material
-announcing games when they haven't even started working on them!
-They are a better publisher than they are a developer. This never used to be the case, and these roles used to be equal in terms of quality.
-They don't necessarily have anyone like Sakaguchi, Uematsu, etc. who brought new talent into the company. Sakaguchi hired a bunch of folks like Ito, Kitase, Tokita, etc. and gave them experience and higher positions when he saw that they were bringing cool things to the table. Uematsu was the one who hired Hamauzu, for example. Who do they have doing the hiring now? They're picking people from smaller developers who they collaborated with -- at least Nomura is. The rest of them just seem set on carrying out their own vision as opposed to making SE secure for the future.
That company has a problem and people who don't say they have a problem have their heads stuck in the sand.
The parallels between SE and Sega just seem too numerous to ignore. At the very least, Sega seems to be digging themselves out of their hole.
I have to wonder if Iizuka's even considering hiring new blood. Perhaps the stint where he wasn't completely hands-on with the Sonic series was him trying to give other people a chance to give players their vision for the series. Well, before he started having a producer role on Sonic games.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Pretty much. Can't wait. :/
Oh noooooo. I'm almost afraid they'll rip it apart like they did with that horrendous Nostalgia Critic LP.
Oh man I just remembered the NC was in this. :lol
Different people this time actually. Chip and Ironicus
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I noticed when I clicked on it that it was Chip's account rather than the standard retsupurae account. It's not nice to lie, qq.
Oh, the stock numbers in those CNN labels for the movie are actually positive. See, when we watched it, I was concentrating on srs bizness everything was.
Seven Force
Banned
I can't even remember the last time a Square-Enix thread ended well without being locked at some point, honestly.
They still count as retsupurae!
Meccanical
Member
I'm avoiding all Square Enix threads now, they're just too depressing.
But I digress, how can a stage be so bad with music this good?
Edit: Kit Kats are good.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
But when I think "retsupurae", I think Diabetus and slowbeef!
this movie is worse than I remember oh maaaaan
That's like asking why any bad Sonic game has good music. That's because the Sonic Sound Team is one of the best in the industry!
Meccanical
Member
Lovely.
Oh my god the original video maker is so pathetic. I wish I could swear right now because I really want to make an emphasis on how pathetic and sad that person is.
wow
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Sorry, I really couldn't help it. Baaaahahahaha.
One of those images is drawn by the guy who does the art for Langrisser and Growlanser and it's no secret that he does H-content (it's as just as secret as the guy who did the music for Secret of Mana doing music for H-content).
Meccanical
Member
Yeah Satoshi Urushihara.
Draws the shiniest waifus you ever did see.
Draws the shiniest waifus you ever did see.
Meccanical
Member
Seven Force
Banned
Wow.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Yosefhouser 1 minute ago
Should I feel bad that I actually read this hentai? Also the fact that the main character has sex with a real cow in this one?
Yeah, this one is pretty bad.
Meccanical
Member
It's not what you think JC.
It's complicated.
It's complicated.
Hot Coldman
Banned
The swear challenge ends in about 2 hours
So list of everything notable that irritated me this week on GAF (and things linked from here)
None of those actually made me swear (though some made me want to swear, ESPECIALLY that Nintendo thread)
and yet that creepy manga video that got retsupurae'd... that was the toughest I've ever held back swearing... ever. Good god.
Seriously, I can't get OVER it. That was so painfully awful. Ughhhhh
So list of everything notable that irritated me this week on GAF (and things linked from here)
- I've played through the awfulness of Sonic Advance 2
- Creepy Pokemon fans in the X/Y thread
- Then there was ridiculously awful (yet hilarious but also sad and irritating) argument in that one Iwata thread (people seriously wants Nintendo to ditch the 3DS in favor of an actual GBA 2.0)
- I got locked out of GAF for a day
- I rewatched the awful Sonic movie via Retsupurae
None of those actually made me swear (though some made me want to swear, ESPECIALLY that Nintendo thread)
and yet that creepy manga video that got retsupurae'd... that was the toughest I've ever held back swearing... ever. Good god.
Seriously, I can't get OVER it. That was so painfully awful. Ughhhhh
Meccanical
Member
At least this leads to an interesting question.
What is worse: Sonic 06 or the Sonic fan film?
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I trust you all have good heads on your shoulders. Because oh lawd we do not want to start discussions about certain things in here, even if it's sad and hilarious. :V
What I want you to do is write up a swear-filled post detailing everything you talked about in this post after the challenge is finished. It'll be a nice outlet for you.
Meccanical
Member
Sonic 06 at least had this moment.
Sonic 06 at least had this moment.
but then it has the infamous scene... so that cancels it out unfortunately
...Time for change of plans. I was planning out something completely different. But I think this is actually a good idea.
Meccanical
Member
The look on Knuckles' face says it all.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Ya know I've never seen THE SCENE until now
why did this happen
why did this happen
Meccanical
Member
I ask myself that question everyday.
All the content cut from that game, and yet they keep this scene.
who what when why how
All the content cut from that game, and yet they keep this scene.
who what when why how
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Also, what happen to SmileBit? I love those Jet Set Radio and Panzer Dragoon games they made. And Typing of the Dead! Some of Sega's finest titles
Meccanical
Member
Dead and gone homie.
Actually nah, they make the Sonic and Mario games.
Actually nah, they make the Sonic and Mario games.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Fuck, that's basically the same thing
those mini-game compilations probably outsell Panzer Dragoon 10-to-1
Meccanical
Member
When you word it like that it's actually incredibly depressing.
Seven Force
Banned
Smilebit was pretty much the reason I bought an OG Xbox in the first place. Orta remains my favorite Xbox game to this day.
Meccanical
Member
Orta blew my mind back when the Hugebox was still hot.
I could not believe what I was seeing on the screen.
I could not believe what I was seeing on the screen.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Orta looked better than a LOT of 360 games back in '05-06. Played better, too!
Only one I never touched was Gunvalkyrie. Heard a lot of mixed things about that one because of the STEEP learning curve, but the people who like it, REALLY like it
Only one I never touched was Gunvalkyrie. Heard a lot of mixed things about that one because of the STEEP learning curve, but the people who like it, REALLY like it
Seven Force
Banned
Gunvalkyrie was good, but yeah, learning that game was a bitch.
Shadow Hog
Member
Slowbeef and Chip have been having a field day this weekend. Four videos on the mainline account, and one especially contemptuous video on Chip's.
Panties or socks? Panties or socks? PANTIES OR SOCKS?
BlazeHedgehog
Member
I have just finished watching Turtles Forever.
It makes Sonic Generations look REALLY bad as a "old school meets new school and hijinks ensue" concept.
Which is to say that if you are a fan of the Ninja Turtles it is pretty much the greatest thing ever made. I don't think anything can top it. I'm probably not being hyperbolic. It goes everywhere you'd want it to go, makes all the references you'd dream it could make. It is fan service perfected.
I am positively GIDDY right now.
It makes Sonic Generations look REALLY bad as a "old school meets new school and hijinks ensue" concept.
Which is to say that if you are a fan of the Ninja Turtles it is pretty much the greatest thing ever made. I don't think anything can top it. I'm probably not being hyperbolic. It goes everywhere you'd want it to go, makes all the references you'd dream it could make. It is fan service perfected.
I am positively GIDDY right now.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
When the OG Mirage turtles came out with that fake-ass Frank Miller Daredevil black-and-white world....
Seven Force
Banned
Bebop and Rocksteady unintentionally saving the universe was pretty much the greatest thing ever.
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