I got bastion out of a gaf giveaway and it bored me to tears. Only finished a few levels.
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I got bastion out of a gaf giveaway and it bored me to tears. Only finished a few levels.
It also released at 'that period' where indie darlings literally were put up on pedestals and their shortcomings pretty much overlooked just due to 'holy shit look at the production levels a small team can accomplish!'
It was definitely a great achievement for its time but I doubt it'll hold the same nostalgic pick-up-and-play-years-later pull that Transistor will have though. You probably need to have played it during that hype period.
It was definitely a great achievement for its time but I doubt it'll hold the same nostalgic pick-up-and-play-years-later pull that Transistor will have though. You probably need to have played it during that hype period.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Bastion seems more and more like the trial run or prototype for Transistor.
I haven't played Bastion, but the narrator thing seems like an interesting approach to making dynamic narratives that respond to the player, and innovation in any form is cool in my book. Whether that would be practical in games of a larger scale I dunno.
It's a technique that other games have seemed to try to emulate, so it has had a certain influence at least.
It's a technique that other games have seemed to try to emulate, so it has had a certain influence at least.
Nocturnowl
Member
Something about stellar soundtrack, nice visuals, interesting storytelling approach and just okay gameplay.
Yeah I don't have anything to add to the Bastion pile that hasn't been said already.
Yeah I don't have anything to add to the Bastion pile that hasn't been said already.
PhantomOfTheKnight
Member
I'm pretty sure I have an unredeemed Steam code for Bastion in my pms, along with a bunch of other shit including NiGHTS HD, SA 1+2 HD, and I think Sonic R/the Fighters HD. I really need to hurry up and move so I can get my laptop and use these.
HUELEN10
Member
http://www.comicosity.com/preview-sonic-super-special-11/
It seems they are re-printing the FCBD issue in this special.
It seems they are re-printing the FCBD issue in this special.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Bastion plays excellently you cretins. Feh.
yeah, but i'd have to get my copy back from my sister first. not that it would be difficult.If we did Colours, would you consider participating?
i never got into degrassi, but i guess that was always more of a candian thing. i also never watched the nick soap opera 'fifteen' until a few days ago and it is gloriously horrible- trying to be the things degrassi is remembered for and failing at it miserably. but at least it gave us ryan reynolds.
It's technically the other way around, it's just that SSS #11 got delayed for three months.
HUELEN10
Member
Ah, gotcha. Still a pretty cool freebie to have I guess. I know I don't post much in the community thread, so I know I sometimes I am out of the loop.
Some combat impressions from Transistor, cause Schala was asking about it on Twitter:
It's very fast. Basically how it works is you hit R2 to go into the tactical mode and you can walk around freely and plan actions while the enemies stand still. This drains a bar at the top of the screen with every action, so you only have a limited set of moves. After that, you hit R2 again and it'll execute your plan. Once executed, you have to wait for Transistor to recharge before you can plan your next moves, but during this you can still walk around and use the dash to stay out of harm's way. Planning ahead so you don't come out of the execution in the middle of a fight is preferable, cause it can be tough to get away sometimes.
You can also use attacks in real time without using the tactical mode, but this tends to end in taking more damage and usually I only do this for when an enemy has a little bit of health left and I don't feel like dealing with planning out my action just for that little bit.
It's very fast. Basically how it works is you hit R2 to go into the tactical mode and you can walk around freely and plan actions while the enemies stand still. This drains a bar at the top of the screen with every action, so you only have a limited set of moves. After that, you hit R2 again and it'll execute your plan. Once executed, you have to wait for Transistor to recharge before you can plan your next moves, but during this you can still walk around and use the dash to stay out of harm's way. Planning ahead so you don't come out of the execution in the middle of a fight is preferable, cause it can be tough to get away sometimes.
You can also use attacks in real time without using the tactical mode, but this tends to end in taking more damage and usually I only do this for when an enemy has a little bit of health left and I don't feel like dealing with planning out my action just for that little bit.
HUELEN10
Member
Well SonicGAF, stuff has come up that I just need to deal with, so Ive asked for a temp ban. Just wanted to drop by since its thanks to you guys that Im here in the first place. Cant wait to get this over with so that I can be ready Schalas Unleashed speed runs! (Ill be doing it on Xbox 360) Later guys!
Freakmonkey
Neo Member
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Preemptive RIP in peace Huelen
They say they come back, but they never do.
#RIPMeccanical
#NeverForget
They say they come back, but they never do.
#RIPMeccanical
#NeverForget
PhantomOfTheKnight
Member
I came back, ya jerk. >:|
PhantomOfTheKnight
Member
Double-post-but-who-gives-a-fuck:
New covers for the next arcs of Sonic and Sonic Universe. The Werehog finally makes its appearance and Shadow crosses paths with Knuckles. Also looks like the Sonic comics alongside Mega Man and New Crusaders are being put under a new label called the Archie Action series.
I like how they're putting Knuckles and Shadow together given how they were both originally going to be in Unleashed; it's a nice touch.
New covers for the next arcs of Sonic and Sonic Universe. The Werehog finally makes its appearance and Shadow crosses paths with Knuckles. Also looks like the Sonic comics alongside Mega Man and New Crusaders are being put under a new label called the Archie Action series.
I like how they're putting Knuckles and Shadow together given how they were both originally going to be in Unleashed; it's a nice touch.
Seems like we'll be seeing a lot of recently introduced characters again in the SU arc, going by the variant cover.
That sidebar's the tackiest thing they've done with the covers since that short-lived tabloid magazine phase, though.
edit: Full size covers: StH / SU
PhantomOfTheKnight
Member
Also looks like there's a $1 price hike.
Tizoc
Member
Double-post-but-who-gives-a-fuck:
New covers for the next arcs of Sonic and Sonic Universe. The Werehog finally makes its appearance and Shadow crosses paths with Knuckles. Also looks like the Sonic comics alongside Mega Man and New Crusaders are being put under a new label called the Archie Action series.
I like how they're putting Knuckles and Shadow together given how they were both originally going to be in Unleashed; it's a nice touch.
...Is that
Snively with a beard?
Lightning Lord
Banned
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Play Kero Blaster, you bros. I actually wrote stuff.
In fact, i think the first time I saw it, I thought it was an action-platformer through and through as opposed to an RPG. That's interesting.
Thanks for the impressions, pietepiet!
And yeah, Meccanical should've come back! He was also waiting for my Legaia thread. :/
So it's Grandia combined with Vagrant Story, kinda? From what I saw originally, I kinda thought it was geared towards more fluid ARPG mechanics, so I wasn't sure.
In fact, i think the first time I saw it, I thought it was an action-platformer through and through as opposed to an RPG. That's interesting.
Thanks for the impressions, pietepiet!
Temp bans are actually pretty welcoming and you end up getting more stuff done than you realize. Take care.
And yeah, Meccanical should've come back! He was also waiting for my Legaia thread. :/
CrimsonCrescendo
Banned
I thought Bastion was great for it's visuals, soundtrack, and narration. It's gameplay was rather shallow and I find it easier to just watch it on a walkthrough video than bring myself to play it again. Same thing with Dust: An Elysian Tail. Beautiful visuals, fluid animations, pretty good soundtrack, and a pretty good amount of content... but the gameplay was shallow and really wore out its welcome by hour 12. I think that Bastion's relative brevity actually helped it: While the gameplay was shallow, it didn't hang around long enough to become that much of an issue for me. It worked for what it wanted to do. For Dust: it had 4 combos and the most effective way of playing the game is to spam Fidget's attack and most boss fights were either so chaotic you didn't know what was going on or you just spammed your way through. That isn't enough to hold up a 12 to 15 hour game. Then again, I do have to give Kudos to the one guy who basically made the game by himself.
BlazeHedgehog
Member
This is the first I've ever heard this. Where'd you get that info?
I already did!
Short version: Fun, but very close to how Cave Story played, structure aside, and by and large not quite as inspired. Would've liked more of a plot.
edit: Shorter version: Cave Story cut down for mobile.
Azure Dream
Member
Eh? This is a pretty well-known rumor, I thought. I think it's a reason why they're both randomly name-dropped during that quiz, when the game otherwise seems to pretend they don't exist.
They were supposed to be skin swaps, or modified alternate characters, but they couldn't make Knuckles look right with the Werehog's moves, I think it went.
There's a lot of fan-focused content packed into the quiz questions, all the way up to referencing the old "Tails is a girl" joke. Doesn't mean anything.
Definitely a [citation needed] on them being playable in any form.
BlazeHedgehog
Member
I'm not sure how much I buy in to that. Some of that sounds like wishful thinking from fans. What I remember is from the IGN devblog they had where it was mentioned that the director resisted the idea of the Werehog until he eventually warmed up to it enough to include it. It took a lot of convincing, but he was eventually sold on it being a way to easily re-use assets to make more content, since the biggest drain on resources for Unleashed was how big levels had to be for content that was often on screen for only a couple seconds max.
Azure Dream
Member
Only quoting what I remembered of the rumor, didn't say I believe it, necessarily. I think the thing is Shadow and Knuckles are the only two other characters referenced, but not seen.
Didn't see anything about it on Sonic Retro, either way.
Tizoc
Member
I'll get Kero Blaster when its on Steam.
Played a little of Wolfenstein 2014, graphics are OK but not worth the 40/50 GB. Cutscenes are 30 FPS on PC @_@
Hopefully NVidia updates with drivers,etc. of this game so it can optimize it for me for best performance @ 60 FPS.
I am loving killing Nazis with dual wielding weapons, giving 0 fucks to ammo and joyfully slaughtering these fools.
Played a little of Wolfenstein 2014, graphics are OK but not worth the 40/50 GB. Cutscenes are 30 FPS on PC @_@
Hopefully NVidia updates with drivers,etc. of this game so it can optimize it for me for best performance @ 60 FPS.
I am loving killing Nazis with dual wielding weapons, giving 0 fucks to ammo and joyfully slaughtering these fools.
PhantomOfTheKnight
Member
So according to a recent Find the Computer Room podcast with Ian Flynn, Ian
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EDIT: ...and other stuff, not sure all of these were 100% accurate:
*Still has plans for the Underground epilogue and hopes it'll still happen.
*Lost Hedgehog Tales is done but needs proofreading.
*Is both happy and upset because of the reboot.
*Isn't sure whether or not Boom will get its own spin-off book or arc in Universe yet.
*Wants to explain how certain game events happened in the new universe (Shadow noted specifically).
*Lost World's adaptation didn't explain anything because he was only shown the cutscenes up until the Zeti attacked.
*Thinks Lost World was a tech demo for the new engine.
tried to be a writer for Sonic Colours
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
EDIT: ...and other stuff, not sure all of these were 100% accurate:
*Still has plans for the Underground epilogue and hopes it'll still happen.
*Lost Hedgehog Tales is done but needs proofreading.
*Is both happy and upset because of the reboot.
*Isn't sure whether or not Boom will get its own spin-off book or arc in Universe yet.
*Wants to explain how certain game events happened in the new universe (Shadow noted specifically).
*Lost World's adaptation didn't explain anything because he was only shown the cutscenes up until the Zeti attacked.
*Thinks Lost World was a tech demo for the new engine.
I remember people thinking that they should have just used Knuckles for the Werehog stages instead of creating the Werehog, but I don't remember there ever being a rumor of Knuckles and Shadow being in Unleashed.
Tizoc
Member
Sorry for asking about this but can they use Shard in the comics now? He was awesome and I can see them making a new origin for him.
Knuckles replacing Werehog is something I've been saying for years.
Knuckles replacing Werehog is something I've been saying for years.
Should be fine, since he's technically the Metal Sonic from Sonic CD. The problem cited for him was that Sega only wanted a single Metal Sonic running around, but last we heard they'd talked around it by calling him a Mecha Sonic, which is obviously completely different. Justifying why he'd still exist and be such a wiseacre is the bigger problem now.
Tizoc
Member
Yeah Mecha and Metal are 2 different characters.
Speaking of which in Japan, Silver Sonic from Sonic 2 is referred to as Mecha Sonic right? Would that make it the prototype of the one in 3&K?
Double-post-but-who-gives-a-fuck:
New covers for the next arcs of Sonic and Sonic Universe. The Werehog finally makes its appearance and Shadow crosses paths with Knuckles. Also looks like the Sonic comics alongside Mega Man and New Crusaders are being put under a new label called the Archie Action series.
I like how they're putting Knuckles and Shadow together given how they were both originally going to be in Unleashed; it's a nice touch.
Oh thats neat
5 bucks says the fight is inconclusive and they team up to beat something else up.
BlazeHedgehog
Member
http://www.bltn.net
Baby's first domain name
I'm so proud of myself
Edit:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0058A651EB882B48
Research Indicates' Jurassic Park Trespasser LP continues to be my high water mark for the best LP
Baby's first domain name
I'm so proud of myself
Edit:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0058A651EB882B48
Research Indicates' Jurassic Park Trespasser LP continues to be my high water mark for the best LP
Shadow Hog
Member
look up, The two best friends playing any david cage game. ( so look up best friends play indigo prophecy, beyond two souls, ect.. )
Pick any episode and start.
Enjoy
Man, Diabetus is just at the top of his game in this one. And you can tell slowbeef actually likes the game but doesn't really want to admit it. lol
As fars as current LPs of good games, Mario 3 by Psychedelic Eyeball and Mario Galaxy 2 by Diabetus are pretty chill, fun LPs that just finished/are finishing soon. The other good ones I'm thinking of need you to pay more attention like Uncharted 3 by ChipCheezum and Dungeon Crawl - Stone Soup by Hito.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I totally made a thread for these sorts of things. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=475554