Control inputs have been evolving since the first consoles. Had we kept the mindset you suggest, we might not have the controllers we have today.
"Triggers? How needless and unnecessary!"
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Sonic the Hedgehog Community Thread |OT3 & Knuckles|
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Control inputs have been evolving since the first consoles. Had we kept the mindset you suggest, we might not have the controllers we have today.
"Triggers? How needless and unnecessary!"
Nocturnowl
Member
Gyro is typically the most shoehorned in of gimmicky control options, the only game I played where I actually appreciated its application over the stick was Wind Waker HD since aiming was a pain otherwise.
Then Kirby Triple Deluxe took things back to the status quo of "nuts to gyro".
But as long as it ain't forced then i'm fine, I just find it particularly bothersome on the 3DS since it conflicts with the whole 3D thing as well as waving around the screen I'm trying to stay focused on in general.
*Assault multiplayer aside of course
Then Kirby Triple Deluxe took things back to the status quo of "nuts to gyro".
But as long as it ain't forced then i'm fine, I just find it particularly bothersome on the 3DS since it conflicts with the whole 3D thing as well as waving around the screen I'm trying to stay focused on in general.
This still sounds better than everything* the series has done since in a post Lylat Wars World.
*Assault multiplayer aside of course
Tizoc
Member
Well what I meant was in terms of how we're used to controllers with actual tangible buttons as opposed to body movement which just seems as an unneeded hassle.
PhantomOfTheKnight
Member
So yea... Nintendo's conference.
...it was Nintendo being Nintendo; no real suprsises here.
...it was Nintendo being Nintendo; no real suprsises here.
Tizoc
Member
So will Devil's Third actually manage to sell enough to cover its production values?
As is TBH, the Wii U is 50-50 on if it can recover by 2015/2016...
edit: Also seeing that Toad spin off game...it saddens me that SEGA can't make a Tails game with focus on exploration and platforming actually freakin' work.
As is TBH, the Wii U is 50-50 on if it can recover by 2015/2016...
edit: Also seeing that Toad spin off game...it saddens me that SEGA can't make a Tails game with focus on exploration and platforming actually freakin' work.
PhantomOfTheKnight
Member
Nobody like's Captain Toad whoever does is a big fat fucking liar. >:I
....and why was Fantasy Life announced AFTER the fucking stream!? "You ran out of time" my ass!
....and why was Fantasy Life announced AFTER the fucking stream!? "You ran out of time" my ass!
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Regardless of the presentations, I'm gonna come out of this E3 with several games I'm interested in playing across the various consoles, and in that regard its a success
2014 lookin' kinda lol though...at least there's Bayo and Smash(hopefully)
2014 lookin' kinda lol though...at least there's Bayo and Smash(hopefully)
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Hey you know that joke where I import something or play something I'd imported and then a few days later or a few weeks later, it's announced for localization?
I just fucking started Fantasy Life Link last night.
But yeah, it's stupid that they aren't including this stuff in their presentation at all. Should've had separate events for it.
I just fucking started Fantasy Life Link last night.
But yeah, it's stupid that they aren't including this stuff in their presentation at all. Should've had separate events for it.
Splatoon was the biggest surprise for me, I joined just after Zelda tho, i hear that was good.
But yeah Splatoon looks like a ton of fun.
Import and play a Gundam EXVS game pls Schala
Nocturnowl
Member
I knew it was coming but it still underwhelms, they managed to make Miis even lamer than I'd have thought, at the very least I was expecting some Wii series moveset antics and not a choice of three so far generic looking movesets like a poor man's Little Mac, Marth and Samus in particular. /rant
Thank the Goddess for Palutena to wash away the sins of mii.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Made a thread for the E3 Sonic Boom trailers: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=834893
Tizoc
Member
Professor Beef
Banned
Just because controls have been evolving doesn't mean we have to think they're good. I'm never going to buy a Wii because of those controllers, and the only reason I haven't already chucked out the idea of buying a Wii U is because of the controller.
I've never liked motion controls, and I honestly hope that I'm not forced to use gyro controls for Star Fox.
Owl made a point about that too. I understand where you're coming from; sometimes I just get confused when someone thinks unconventionally controlled games are automatically garbage tier :/
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Yeah, for some reason the Japanese eShop accepts foreign credit cards but the North American one doesn't.
You can use Visa or Mastercard. I've heard of people using debit, but I don't like using debit for stuff because of fees (like, you know, eff CIBC and all that).
I like to opt for getting eShop cards for Play-Asia sometimes, though.
I liked it more than some of the gyro in some mobile games I've been playing.
You can use Visa or Mastercard. I've heard of people using debit, but I don't like using debit for stuff because of fees (like, you know, eff CIBC and all that).
I like to opt for getting eShop cards for Play-Asia sometimes, though.
Wait, I actually liked the Gyro in Kirby because you can recalibrate it all the time. Wasn't super-super poop.
I liked it more than some of the gyro in some mobile games I've been playing.
Awesome. Thanks!
Gyro was good in RE: Revelations, Nintendoland Zelda and Metroid, and OoT3D. Anyway, if it's straight up classic Star Fox and not some weird new gameplay concept it's almost certainly optional.
Wii U in 2015 sounds great, 2014 looks pretty desolate besides Smash.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
sounds about right, PKrockin
Well you're right, I am getting both. I just hope the Wii U stays alive for the continuing drought.
Nocturnowl
Member
Well it works well enough but each section that involved it just seemed to be in there because gyro was available.
While most gyro stuff was stuck in those side rooms you had those tilt gondola things part way through stages and it was just kind of slooow in a sort of flow breaking way (actually I just wing powered past one at least if I recall), I mean I know it's Kirby and all but as far as sudden gyro platforms go I thought something like NSMBWii handled it better.
It's not like a blight upon the game, it's just a case where I really didn't find it to add anything at all.
Then again I like the often loathed Fluzzard in SMG2 so yeah, it's all down to how these sort of things are used and how I personally respond to them I guess.
I'll support those Nintendo Land choices, F-Zero and Octopus Dance were shaky as hell but those two and to a lesser extent the Takamaru game weren't too bad.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Everything except the music, visuals and a fraction of the story.
Wow, so I shouldn't be excited for it?
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I dunno. Bebpo, Aeana and I are like the only people on GAF who aren't overpraising it because it has problems.
- quests are boring, but the in-mission stuff is kinda ok because they're timed
- control scheme on PSP is pretty garbage. the DD version they let us have for Vita let us remap the controls.
- towns are basically hubs where you get your fetch quests from
- world map is filler
- RTS segments are garbage
- game is broken anyway because you can kill everything with kill sights or stun them and get rid of them; combat has little depth
- difficulty is unbalanced
- (neutral) you need to play the game twice to get the true ending but you have NG+
- you should probably read up on the fabula nova crystallis stuff for this
- looks great, sounds great, great VA
Everyone else who's played it seemed to love it.
- quests are boring, but the in-mission stuff is kinda ok because they're timed
- control scheme on PSP is pretty garbage. the DD version they let us have for Vita let us remap the controls.
- towns are basically hubs where you get your fetch quests from
- world map is filler
- RTS segments are garbage
- game is broken anyway because you can kill everything with kill sights or stun them and get rid of them; combat has little depth
- difficulty is unbalanced
- (neutral) you need to play the game twice to get the true ending but you have NG+
- you should probably read up on the fabula nova crystallis stuff for this
- looks great, sounds great, great VA
Everyone else who's played it seemed to love it.
Tizoc
Member
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Everything.
PhantomOfTheKnight
Member
Move over Type-0, this is the real SE megaton.
PhantomOfTheKnight
Member
Holy shit, I just noticed in that .gif that Boom!Amy's eyelashes aren't curled; they're all straight and pointy.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
PhantomOfTheKnight
Member
GUYS ITS THE TAILS DOLL
ITS BACK
AFTER ALL THESE YEARS
Tizoc
Member
Mind elaborating more please?
Marza's actually involved, huh. I guess this is a bit more legitimate than some Sony stiff licensing the IP for mere script solicitations.
CG/live action mix still strikes me as bad, if not fundamentally all that different from the SA/Sonic X style.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
So, like, I almost got an asthma attack at the gym. I kinda knew what was happening before, so I stopped before it got serious.
Got to lie down and have some juice. I'm still kinda lightheaded and a little headachy, but I'm okay.
Got to lie down and have some juice. I'm still kinda lightheaded and a little headachy, but I'm okay.
This is why I don't post much on gaming proper anymore.
Yikes, the exact thin happened to my mother a week ago, glad you're okay.
Professor Beef
Banned
SonicGaf is dying noooo
ViewtifulJC
Banned
rip in peace sonicgaf
sonic boom taking us all out, b
sonic boom taking us all out, b