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Sony announces 'Perfect for PlayStation 5' features for 4K & 8K TVs

A80J, A90J, X90J, X95J & Z9J are Sony's first 'Perfect for PS5' models

www.flatpanelshd.com

The first 'Perfect for PlayStation 5' TVs are Sony's A80J, A90J, X90J, X95J and Z9J models. Two new gaming features (HGiG and ALLM) will come to PS5 and the TVs by the end of 2021.

Perfect for PS5​

Déjà vu? Last year, Sony announced 'Ready for PlayStation 5' and the company is now expanding the initiative to cover two additional features. It will henceforth be known as 'Perfect for PlayStation 5'.

- "‘Perfect for PlayStation 5’ TVs will bring in two brand-new PS5 exclusive features – Auto HDR Tone Mapping and Auto Genre Picture Mode. They also support frame rates up to 120fps in a super-crisp 4K resolution as specified in HDMI 2.1 in compatible games," announced Sony.

Judging by the descriptions, these appear to be HGiG mode (HDR Gaming Interest Group) and ALLM (Auto Low Latency Mode), respectively, perhaps with some special Sony tweaks. If you are unfamiliar, you can learn more about HGiG here and ALLM here. Or in our TV reviews.

Sony added that Z9J has input lag as low as 6.0ms in 4K120 mode while the four 4K models come in at 8.5ms in 4K120 mode. Only a handful of PS5 games support 4K120 output at this time. Input lag will be higher in standard 4K60 mode, as measured in FlatpanelsHD's reviews.



HGIG
Auto HDR Tone Mapping With Auto HDR Tone Mapping*, the HDR settings will be optimised instantly during your PS5 initial setup. The PS5 will automatically recognise individual BRAVIA TV models and select the best HDR setting for the TV accordingly. With the optimised HDR tone mapping level to your BRAVIA display specification, you’ll see crucial details and colours even in high contrast scenes. For instance, you will get the addition of detailed objects on the track in Gran Turismo 7 so you know just how to make your next move. *Software updates on both PS5 and BRAVIA are required. Available by the end of 2021.

ALLM
Auto Genre Picture Mode BRAVIA XR TVs can detect whether you are playing a game or watching movies and shows. With Auto Genre Picture Mode, your TV automatically switches into Game Mode when gaming, which minimises input lag to make the action more responsive, or to Standard Mode when watching movies via a streaming service or from an Ultra HD Blu-ray disc on the PS5, which shifts focus to picture processing for a more expressive picture.
Auto Genre Picture Mode will be available via a future software updates on PS5 and BRAVIA TVs by the end of 2021.

Software updates by late 2021​

Sony's 2021 high-end LCD TVs (X90J, X95J and Z9J) and OLED TVs (A80J, A90J) will be the first models to support the two new features that will be added through a software update by the end of 2021. PS5 will also require a software update.

- "Auto HDR Tone Mapping and Auto Genre Picture Mode will be available via a software update on PS5 and BRAVIA TVs by the end of 2021," the company said.

Furthermore, Sony's new HT-A7000 and HT-A5000 soundbars will gain support for the new features through a software update in spring 2022.

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Edit - Already delaying it lol classic Sony

"Software updates on both Playstation®5 consoles and BRAVIA are required, and will be available by end of January 2022."

Sony BRAVIA Gaming TVs for PlayStation

Ultimate gaming with BRAVIA TVs from Sony. True-to-life color and detail, fast response time and immersive sound to optimize your PlayStation experience.

electronics.sony.com

Edit - video by Vinnie explaining this feature

 

[ManaByte]

Glad I got a X90J.

 

[StateofMajora]

No mini led though.

Anyways it's great hgig is coming, and very needed for hdr. Everyone should get that update.

 

[GriffinCorp]

Finally! Been looking forward to this for a long long time. I've been holding out for a Sony model... A90J please!

 

[DenchDeckard]

vrr?

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

 

[StreetsofBeige]

If GT7 has giant bright sunlight like that. but needs HGIG to fix, there's something wrong with GT7 daytime visuals to begin with.

Never the less, more gaming features added to TVs the better. Always good to have options. I'd wait until the features actually available to update instead of buying and waiting. You never knew if a TV OS update will be on time.

I have a 900e and the OS updates come out at totally random times. And one update they said would fix the arc sound issues didnt fix on my set up. And for people who had the issue stemming from the Oreo 8 OS update, we all had to wait for the post patch that came over a year later.

 

[Physiognomonics]

Perfect for their own bank account sure.

 

[Kagey K]

HGIG and ALLM just coming out now? (Well technically at years end) and still no talk of VRR?

 

[Lone Wolf]

Perfect for PS5 because neither the PS5 or the TVs support 1440p and VRR. Also Many TVs already have game mode.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

HGIG and ALLM just coming out now? (Well technically at years end) and still no talk of VRR?

My 900H is like?

 

[kingwingin]

Me playing GT7 without HGIG

 

[MasterCornholio]

vrr?

I believe these TVs need an update for VRR not that the hardware is incapable of it.

 

[GHG]

If GT7 has giant bright sunlight like that. but needs HGIG to fix, there's something wrong with GT7 daytime visuals to begin with.

Never the less, more gaming features added to TVs the better. Always good to have options. I'd wait until the features actually available to update instead of buying and waiting. You never knew if a TV OS update will be on time.

I have a 900e and the OS updates come out at totally random times. And one update they said would fix the arc sound issues didnt fix on my set up. And for people who had the issue stemming from the Oreo 8 OS update, we all had to wait for the post patch that came over a year later.

New to HDR advertising?

The HDR on/off comparisons are always moot unless the images/videos are done in HDR and then viewed on a HDR capable device (even then, the quality of said device will have the final say on what you ultimately end up seeing).

 

[HTK]

We've had "Perfect for PlayStation 5" with the LG CX for a year now...I guess welcome to the party?

 

[MaKTaiL]

Does the lack of VRR and the fact that they are labeling this as "perfect for PS5" a sign that VRR will never be coming to PS5?

 

[DeepEnigma]

My 900H is like?

Sony Begins Rollout of VRR & ALLM Firmware Update for the X900H HDMI 2.1 TV

Sony has started rolling out a new firmware update to enable ALLM & VRR support on 2020's BRAVIA X900H, in the first instance for Chinese models. Sony has started rolling out a new firmware update to enable ALLM & VRR support on 2020's BRAVIA X900H, in the first instance for Chinese models...

www.neogaf.com

 

[kyliethicc]

If GT7 has giant bright sunlight like that. but needs HGIG to fix, there's something wrong with GT7 daytime visuals to begin with.

Um.. no. You just don't know how HDR tone mapping works.

Here's a good place to start reading.

https://www.hgig.org/doc/ForBetterHDRGaming.pdf

 

[kyliethicc]

My 900H is like?

Your TV was only "Ready for PS5" not "Perfect for PS5" lol

Does the lack of VRR and the fact that they are labeling this as "perfect for PS5" a sign that VRR will never be coming to PS5?

Nah, they've said multiple times PS5 will support VRR later.

Everyone thought the same thing about the M.2 SSD expansion, but it just took time.

 

[GHG]

Does the lack of VRR and the fact that they are labeling this as "perfect for PS5" a sign that VRR will never be coming to PS5?

No its never coming.

Riky is going to party hard for the rest of the generation.

 

[Elginer]

My 900H is like?

Bro I feel you, I have the same TV.

 

[Mr Moose]

vrr?

Yes (for HDMI™3/4)

 

[Physiognomonics]

Indeed a TV with a reduced feature set is perfect to use with a console with a reduced feature set.

 

[Great Hair]

vrr?

What is VRR? Variable refresh rate explained

We delve into what VRR means for gaming TVs today

www.techradar.com

 

[Md Ray]

Ctrl + F: "VRR" = 0/0

 

[GymWolf]

Well, that's my new tv.

edit: or maybe not going by the opinions in here

Shit i need a new tv before elden ring\dying light 2\horizon 2 get released...

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Sony Begins Rollout of VRR & ALLM Firmware Update for the X900H HDMI 2.1 TV

Sony has started rolling out a new firmware update to enable ALLM & VRR support on 2020's BRAVIA X900H, in the first instance for Chinese models. Sony has started rolling out a new firmware update to enable ALLM & VRR support on 2020's BRAVIA X900H, in the first instance for Chinese models...

www.neogaf.com

Yeah have seen that will wait until they are done beta testing it but thanks though

 

[ANDS]

Auto HDR is nice; curious how it works. I hate fiddling with my TV's picture settings because I don't actually know what I'm looking for (I mean I can tell when a game has HDR on or off, but not sure what "good" HDR looks like - as opposed to just a washed out image).

 

[nush]

Perfect for ps5 sounds like Switch port begging.

 

[Azelover]

Good business decision. And it's also great if you're buying them at the same time, which is something I'm planning to do.

 

[StateofMajora]

Well, that's my new tv.

edit: or maybe not going by the opinions in here

Shit i need a new tv before elden ring\dying light 2\horizon 2 get released...

Don't you have a c8? Next year will have a lot better options.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Don't you have a c8? Next year will have a lot better options.

Yeah, next year will be perfect+

 

[TGO]

ALLM
Auto Genre Picture Mode BRAVIA XR TVs can detect whether you are playing a game or watching movies and shows. With Auto Genre Picture Mode, your TV automatically switches into Game Mode when gaming, which minimises input lag to make the action more responsive, or to Standard Mode when watching movies via a streaming service or from an Ultra HD Blu-ray disc on the PS5, which shifts focus to picture processing for a more expressive picture.
Auto Genre Picture Mode will be available via a future software updates on PS5 and BRAVIA TVs by the end of 2021.

Sony TV's already do this.

 

[Chukhopops]

Isn’t it odd that they don’t even promise to add VRR in the future? Auto tone mapping and ALLM are cool though.

LG for life though, I would never buy a Sony TV.

 

[StateofMajora]

Yeah, next year will be perfect+

LG oled with heatsink, samsung qd oled, possibly sony mini led.

The x90J has 24 dimming zones... That is terrible for 2021.

 

[Lone Wolf]

Well, that's my new tv.

edit: or maybe not going by the opinions in here

Shit i need a new tv before elden ring\dying light 2\horizon 2 get released...

Right now, C1 is the best overall tv if you don’t want to wait for next years models. It’s actually the best tv for PS5. And Xbox. And PC.

 

[rofif]

Well I plan on updating my lg c1 to c2 next year... but if sony will play the ball, I might reconsider

 

[Bogroll]

Sony TV's already do this.

Not sure if it's the same but one of my Sony TV switches mode automatically if a film comes on or sports etc.
Also game mode.

 

[HTK]

I'm eyeing that LG C2 42" for my desk setup. They delayed it from this year to next, can't wait.

 

[StateofMajora]

Well I plan on updating my lg c1 to c2 next year... but if sony will play the ball, I might reconsider

Lol why? Unless it has a heatsink that is pointless. C1 is bad ass if you got a good panel..

I'm guessing the heatsink model will probably be the g2.

 

[sankt-Antonio]

ALLM is already implemented (kind of) on my A90J with the PS5. I want VRR Sony!

 

[TGO]

Not sure if it's the same but one of my Sony TV switches mode automatically if a film comes on or sports etc.
Also game mode.

Yeah it's just called Auto Picture Mode, it Also sets the TV to 24p when it detects it.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Sony TV's already do this.

Yep, my 900H did this at launch.

 

[Mr Moose]

Isn’t it odd that they don’t even promise to add VRR in the future? Auto tone mapping and ALLM are cool though.

LG for life though, I would never buy a Sony TV.

They do.

https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/televisions/x90j-series/specifications

Features specified in HDMI2.1 4K120/eARC/VRR*/ALLM
Variable Refresh Rate (VRR) Yes (for HDMI™3/4)*

*VRR will be available via a future firmware update.
They are doing updates for older TVs now:

Sony Begins Rollout of VRR & ALLM Firmware Update for the X900H HDMI 2.1 TV

Sony has started rolling out a new firmware update to enable ALLM & VRR support on 2020's BRAVIA X900H, in the first instance for Chinese models. Sony has started rolling out a new firmware update to enable ALLM & VRR support on 2020's BRAVIA X900H, in the first instance for Chinese models...

www.neogaf.com

Sony starts rolling out HDMI 2.1 VRR, ALLM update for X900H / XH90 – updated

Here are download links for Europe, North America & other regions

www.flatpanelshd.com

 

[rofif]

Lol why? Unless it has a heatsink that is pointless. C1 is bad ass if you got a good panel..

I'm guessing the heatsink model will probably be the g2.

There is some annoying gradient color banding but I am unsure if it's just panel being so good it is very critical on the source.
But that's nitpicking. I just want to replace my living room 42" 2008 sony bravia with my 48" c1. My wife uses it, so she can have easier access to netflix and all other apps... and I might just get a new tv or another c1

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

My 900H is like?

For gaming the 900H is superior to all of those because of lower input lag and no burn in.

 

[EverydayBeast]

Sure but the pricing is sickening.

 

[StateofMajora]

There is some annoying gradient color banding but I am unsure if it's just panel being so good it is very critical on the source.
But that's nitpicking. I just want to replace my living room 42" 2008 sony bravia with my 48" c1. My wife uses it, so she can have easier access to netflix and all other apps... and I might just get a new tv or another c1

Gradients are not good on lg in general, that's their main downside atm. Sony has great gradients, so maybe next year see what sony offers if that really bothers you. Although, Sony's motion is currently worse than LG so, trade off.

I hope Sony can match LG's artifact free motion interpolation on c1 and match 2017 sony tvs in smoothness, because they've gone backwards. I'm less confident that lg can fix their gradation smoothness.

 

[Jaguar Victory]

I just dropped $1800 today on the LG65C1 so I'm set for now. Sony TVs are pretty damn good though. If the LGC1 wasn't such a beast I would've went Sony.

 

[Bogroll]

Yep, my 900H did this at launch.

It's been around for a while. My 2014 Sony does it and I wouldn't be surprised if it was out years before that.