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If it is a PC, then its not an Xbox console anymore, is it?Well, the next Xbox is supposed to be a "mini-pc" so how hard could it be?
If it is a PC, then its not an Xbox console anymore, is it?Well, the next Xbox is supposed to be a "mini-pc" so how hard could it be?
If allowing others to play games ruins a plastic box that a "grown man is attached to" said grown man needs to get out of the house moreUh, no, it's more like because they are adult grown man that actually knows that this kind of move will ruin the brand they are attached to and if that brand goes down so will their digital libraries, there won't be more retrocompatible machines in the future etc., and that's an output not positive at all for their interests.
Its a consoleIf it is a PC, then its not an Xbox console anymore, is it?
What killed Xbox was a combination of things. It wasn't the lack of exclusives and porting their games to PC, Nintendo and PlayStation.
PlayStation has been posting record numbers this entire generation. Porting their games to PC has only benefited them. The risk of losing 2,000 disgruntled fanboys over this is inconsequential when Sony is making bank on Shark Cards and Fortnite skins.
The lack of quality exclusives and ports absolutely made a huge difference.It was the lack of exclusives. You're wrong and when PlayStation is not doing well, I'll laugh.
You truly have the patience of a saint.Its a console
Not sure how many times it has to be said but its a console
Btw, its a console
If allowing others to play games ruins a plastic box that a "grown man is attached to" said grown man needs to get out of the house more
Its a console
Not sure how many times it has to be said but its a console
Btw, its a console
Its a console
Not sure how many times it has to be said but its a console
Btw, its a console
We have threads here on these very forums with leaks of the chip it will use evenTo be honest i've read contradicting stuff and didn't follow it closely.
If you say so, i believe you.
So you're telling me it's a PC. Gotcha.
If allowing others to play games ruins a plastic box that a "grown man is attached to" said grown man needs to get out of the house more
Its a console
Not sure how many times it has to be said but its a console
Btw, its a console
Nahh I just don't have a zealot like Jr High affiliation towards any one box or ecosystem, I play what games I want where I wantMother of God, you are dense aren't you?
It's not a plastic box, it's a development and commercial ecosystem.
And yes, if that ecosystem is ruined then those who have heavily invested in it can have negative outcomes, so it's but normal they don't want that.
And yes, of course, having all its content in all the other platforms makes that ecosystem redundant, just as Xbox right now. And from there you can only go down.
So people that want to protect the ecosystem in wich they have been playing for decades, have their digital libraries, accessories, backcompatibility etc doesn't make them children, just that they, unlike you, understand what could happen.
Nope. So what?If it is a PC, then its not an Xbox console anymore, is it?
They want it so much that Concord miserabily failed and new Bungie GaaS sh!t has been postponed indefinitely.Because that is what their users want?
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My point was that if the next Xbox is just a windows PC then Sony games that release on windows would run on it without any extra resource beyond Nixxes.Nope. So what?
Your point may still hold (admittedly I didn't follow all the back and forth) because even though its a console it will run Steam but remains to be seen what happens with Sony games on SteamMy point was that if the next Xbox is just a windows PC then Sony games that release on windows would run on it without any extra resource beyond Nixxes.
Heisenberg here says it will be a console so my point doesn't hold.
In any case, i would expect Sony and Nintendo to continue developing their 1st party single player games as exclusives, to take full advantage of their own hardware, boost their sales and keep the industry model the same as it has been for decades now.
But times are changing, so who knows.
Either way it doesn't matter. If it's a Xbox branded PC, it's still part of their platform according to their own admittance. If it's some type of console-PC hybrid, still the same platform. I think Sony realizes they could make a lot more money by strategically releasing certain games on other platforms.My point was that if the next Xbox is just a windows PC then Sony games that release on windows would run on it without any extra resource beyond Nixxes.
Heisenberg here says it will be a console so my point doesn't hold.
In any case, i would expect Sony and Nintendo to continue developing their 1st party single player games as exclusives, to take full advantage of their own hardware, boost their sales and keep the industry model the same as it has been for decades now.
But times are changing, so who knows.
I recently bought Uncharted 4 and Horizon Zero dawn on PC. If those showed up on Gamepass now, I might be a bit miffed.Edit: Call me crazy, but if they did release some single player games on Xbox...I would say put it on Gamepass for a very limited time. Like 2 months. I mean fanboys would revolt...but again. Strategic. Get em hooked, the first one's "free". May convert Xbox folks to buy PS6 in the long run for the newest entry of those franchises. You never know, but if I was at Sony I'd consider it.
I bought em too. I'm just talking business right now. I likely would still buy them even if they were on Gamepass for a very limited time, but I realize I'm likely in the minority there lol.I recently bought Uncharted 4 and Horizon Zero dawn on PC. If those showed up on Gamepass now, I might be a bit miffed.
Suddenly I understand all the anger from Sony fans.
Nahh I just don't have a zealot like Jr High affiliation towards any one box or ecosystem, I play what games I want where I want
But then again I am a functioning adult that doesn't engage is warrior mentality trying to defend my box of choice that some of you are so deeply connected to
Difference of opinion
Everyone wants to be rich. Most people of average intelligence don't come near to bankrupting themselves for repeated entry into a rigged lottery.The live service exploded in popularity because Fortnite exploded and everyone wanted that
I did say he doesn't have any taste. Which is flawed strategy in itself; to not have a CEO who either delegates the quality checks to reliable people or who doesn't have the humility or taste to check his own shit.And Phil actually plays all these games and he okayed shit like Redfall and the first Halo Infinite trailer
Everyone's making "record bank". AsPlaystation already ports to PC and the PS5 is making record bank, porting more titles to PC isn't going to drastically change Playstations position as the main console people buy
So you're saying its not a console..If allowing others to play games ruins a plastic box that a "grown man is attached to" said grown man needs to get out of the house more
Its a console
Not sure how many times it has to be said but its a console
Btw, its a console
For many who post here, their console choice is their identity
PS going multiplatform is seen as an attack or erasing of their identity
You know a box you cant get anynore ? An xbox x... they aren't being sold in a lot of places.. thats what happens when you fuck up your gaming business chasing the rabbit ... so no.. its not easy as that.
This industry was built on the exclusivity model.. to suddenly since MS became third party and now "the genius" move is to follow through??... noone ever thought of that in decades... xbox and ms are the real genius with their new strategy.
And Sony cant do no wrong this gen... oh wait.
I love Sony and PlayStation but Spider-Man 2, Horizon Forbidden West, God of War Ragnarok and The Last of Us Part 2 were all so disappointing and significantly worse than their predecessors that other platform users can have them.
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That's some small penis shit to get upset about.
Don't get me started on PlayStation holding them hostage behind a paywall.When the PS6 handheld launches cloud saves will be great all of a sudden
I think outside PC theres absolutely no reason to own a gaming platform if it dosent offer any exclusive advantage ... and being "easy" its something very very poor to sell your next box.
And if Pc closed boxes start to emerge like handhelds.. with more easy systems integrated... than your product now offers fucking nothing.
Good for you but SIE will be shuttering more legacy developers when this fails.Nahh I just don't have a zealot like Jr High affiliation towards any one box or ecosystem, I play what games I want where I want
But then again I am a functioning adult that doesn't engage is warrior mentality trying to defend my box of choice that some of you are so deeply connected to
Difference of opinion
its not an xbox ,its a pc. that isnt a good sell, not many will buy that. the steam machine is proof of that.Your last paragraph pretty much describes the next Xbox. I'll have my backlog, gamepass and steam all in one box. It might end up being the smartest move they made.
Just wait till the announcements come rolling in……
its not an xbox ,its a pc. that isnt a good sell, not many will buy that. the steam machine is proof of that.
Because there are groups of people on every platform that enjoy games that is only on their platform and they know no one else gets to play
I would imagine they are mostly children in either age or mentality but they exist none the less
Yup.Everyone's making "record bank". AsStreetsofBeige said, it's almost impossible not to what with all the price increases and digital controls that went into overdrive after coof.
Loading up my cod4 save from 2009 on my series xWhen was the last time you actually did something with a cloud save? Have you ever?
Maybe 1% of their money comes from those crying about not getting the PC enhancements and moving to PC. Sony would be fine "without" them.
Did you load it up from the cloud or was it already transferred to your system?Loading up my cod4 save from 2009 on my series x