killatopak
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laughs at $90.
Why are we always talking about Sony and Microsoft in the console war when Nintendo is the only clear winner?
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ArtHands
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We're in the different environment where Sony doesn't have any portable handheld
reinking
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I think Nintendo owes a lot of their current success to catering to their current fans but also being that second console purchase for most other gamers. Nintendo has embraced not being part of the console war and it has allowed them to still be liked by Sony, Microsoft and PC fans. I do not know if they plan to change that strategy going into the Switch 2 but it has worked up until now.
hinch7
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Nintendo have been doing their own thing for years and generations. Their market and user base doesn't really overlap with PlayStation or Xbox's.
They could launch a console any time and not affect sales of one another.
Whereas Sony and Microsoft are direct competitors to one another in the console space. With users with similar buying habits and interest in games. That may change with Switch 2 as they'd get more third party support and with Xbox slowly dying - as console sales and interests go. Which may lead some users to move to one platform, if previous Xbox owners haven't bought a PS already.
They could launch a console any time and not affect sales of one another.
Whereas Sony and Microsoft are direct competitors to one another in the console space. With users with similar buying habits and interest in games. That may change with Switch 2 as they'd get more third party support and with Xbox slowly dying - as console sales and interests go. Which may lead some users to move to one platform, if previous Xbox owners haven't bought a PS already.
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Astray
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And we are in an environment where Steam has a handheld, Xbox will have a handheld, Lenovo/Asus/etc will have handhelds. Maybe even Sony will have a handheld.
Add in the more niche emulation handhelds from like Retroid and whatever you can get AliExpress etc, and the consumer has a massive glut of choices now.
It's very telling that Nintendo had to make a massive price cut to retain its JPN audience, they must be in the red or at cost on that.
They are also talking resolution and fps for the first time ever. It is my opinion that a Nintendo that enters the specs race is a Nintendo that can be beaten imo.
They are changing it.
Switch 2 is clearly being positioned as a main console for people, with a whopping %50 price increase vs Switch 1 (base version to base version).
Sony makes the same amount of revenue as the other two combined. So I guess they won in the only metric that matters in the end.
justiceiro
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Because they made pretty clear terminally online, obsessed with graphics, specs, mature themes, western focused gamers aren't their main audience.
It's like a gorgeous girl that ditched you a long time ago thinking you would become a loser and you decided to bad mouth her instead of trying to become the good enough for her.
It's like a gorgeous girl that ditched you a long time ago thinking you would become a loser and you decided to bad mouth her instead of trying to become the good enough for her.
RetroGamingUK
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What's $90 ?
ShadyAcshuns
Gold Member
Yes, let's see the official source for these alleged game prices, in US dollars.
RetroGamingUK
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As far as I can see Mario Kart World at $80 is the most expensive game.
Bullshit rumours on social media have taken over the facts though.
It's £75 in the UK which is only £5 more than I paid for FFXIV
Ass of Can Whooping
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When you add their sales tax it's going to be close to $90
ShadyAcshuns
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It's the (not so) new way to try to take down brands, diffuse hype etc. sad, pathetic tactic by brand boys.
RetroGamingUK
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It's the US RRP, I've yet to see anywhere selling it at $90
Ass of Can Whooping
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Again, their tax gets added at checkout.
Because SIE and Microsoft Gaming account for 87% of consumer spending.
Their revenues reflect that NSW sold 150m as a secondary console.
Secondary consoles tend to have lower ARPU and lower costumer retention.
The question is: Where does Nintendo fit in todays landscape; a world with less disposable income, less free time, higher prices, a wider array of entertainment options, and GTA 6 looming.
Can consumers afford a secondary console ?
Their revenues reflect that NSW sold 150m as a secondary console.
Secondary consoles tend to have lower ARPU and lower costumer retention.
The question is: Where does Nintendo fit in todays landscape; a world with less disposable income, less free time, higher prices, a wider array of entertainment options, and GTA 6 looming.
Can consumers afford a secondary console ?
Caio
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This.
I couldn't care less about units sold , I play what I like, end of story. After experiencing Forza Horizon 5 on my Xbox Series X, I wouldn't even touch a game like Mario Kart. Who's the winner here ? Well, Mario Kart is garbage to me , I'd take FH5 any day of the week. So who wins? A glorified toaster of a handheld or a real home console beast ? The only real winner is your personal taste. Deal with it.
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RetroGamingUK
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I couldn't care less about units sold , I play what I like, end of story. After experiencing Mario Kart on my Switch, I wouldn't even touch a game like Forza Horizon. Who's the winner here ? Well, Forza Horizon is garbage to me , I'd take Mario Kart any day of the week. So who wins? A glorified toaster of a console or a real handheld beast ? The only real winner is your personal taste. Deal with it.
Opinions are like arseholes, we all have them mate.
vaibhavpisal
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Source for this?Because SIE and Microsoft Gaming account for 87% of consumer spending.
Their revenues reflect that NSW sold 150m as a secondary console.
Secondary consoles tend to have lower ARPU and lower costumer retention.
The question is: Where does Nintendo fit in todays landscape; a world with less disposable income, less free time, higher prices, a wider array of entertainment options, and GTA 6 looming.
Can consumers afford a secondary console ?
Last time I checked Nintendo was killing it.
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FIREKNIGHT2029
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Joke thread?
FIREKNIGHT2029
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Sony makes more revenue in gaming than MS and Nintendo combined
killatopak
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The price in my country. Just to be clear, everything is pricier here not just Nintendo.
It just sucks Nintendo added more.
RetroGamingUK
Member
Which country?
LimanimaPT
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Could it be that's because most of the people that browse this kind of foruns own PS or Xboxes?
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
PlayStation clearly don't think so, they are sending out survey asking about the Nintendo Switch 2 and its impact after the console unveiling:
NDS > PSP
WII > PS3
3DS > PSV
NSW > PS4
killatopak
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Philippines.
For example, $60 games used to be sold for 2500 pesos. Now, it's at 3000. Now imagine $70 and $80 games.
Completely ridiculous.
The only exception to this was steam but someone here raised a stink and now they're increasing prices as well.
Backlog gaming has never been been this enticing.
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BlackTron
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Seider
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Nintendo had three home console failures in its history.
Nintendo 64 - 33m solds
Gamecube - 22m solds
Wii U- 13m solds
Sony hadnt any home console failures. All Playstation home systems sold more than 85 millions each.
Playstation - 102m solds
Playstation 2 - 155m solds
Playstation 3 - 85m solds
Playstation 4 - 117m solds
Playstation 5 - 75m solds till today- will sell more than 100m for sure.
Nintendo 64 - 33m solds
Gamecube - 22m solds
Wii U- 13m solds
Sony hadnt any home console failures. All Playstation home systems sold more than 85 millions each.
Playstation - 102m solds
Playstation 2 - 155m solds
Playstation 3 - 85m solds
Playstation 4 - 117m solds
Playstation 5 - 75m solds till today- will sell more than 100m for sure.
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nkill20
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nintendo either wins or loses big
PropellerEar
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PatientGamer
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It's a Gen 9 console for sure with a 3+ year headstart on the PS5 and XSX.
Like the WiiU was a Gen 8 system that launched before PS4.
I think Nintendo desperately needed the switch to come out soon because the writing was on the wall with the WiiU after 12 months.
Topher
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PlayStation clearly don't think so, they are sending out survey asking about the Nintendo Switch 2 and its impact after the console unveiling:
Rumor has it Sony is looking into their own handheld so this probably has more to do with that then anything else.
Caio
Member
Your replies and posts are a magnificent display of your undying love for the holy Nintendo toaster and your IQ that's bravely battling absolute zero. You basically agreed with me without even realizing it , probably because, instead of a brain, you've got a peanut rattling around in there. In the end, you just confirmed it's all a matter of taste, that there's no true winner or almighty overlord , just plain ol' personal preference. Bravo, Sherlock.
From your very first reply, it's crystal clear you're a fanboy , so drop the act, stop pretending to be all edgy and wise, and quit fishing for likes from your fellow keyboard crusaders.
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RetroGamingUK
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Gotten to
Midway-AGNC-
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Anyone believing the "Nintendo isn't competing against Sony and Microsoft" nonsense needs a reality check. We aren't in 2007 anymore.
diffusionx
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Nintendo is winning a game that Sony and Microsoft didn't even realize they are playing.
Look at what Nintendo has built up over 40 years. They built a platform and brand that let them branch out into things like theme parks logically. Meanwhile Sony and MS worked to torch their platforms by porting their games everywhere to scrounge up some quick cash.
Look at what Nintendo has built up over 40 years. They built a platform and brand that let them branch out into things like theme parks logically. Meanwhile Sony and MS worked to torch their platforms by porting their games everywhere to scrounge up some quick cash.
Killer8
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The idea that Nintendo are not really in direct competition with the rest because they've carved out their own niche (hybrid consoles) is just nonsense.
Every company competes for your time and money. If it's going to Nintendo when it could've gone to Sony, that's literally the definition of competition.
Every company competes for your time and money. If it's going to Nintendo when it could've gone to Sony, that's literally the definition of competition.
CLW
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Nintendo isn't making a powerful console (apple) they make a "toy" (orange) which handles their games perfectly fine but incapable of handling todays biggest games
You can enjoy apples or oranges or both. But they are simply not the same thing
Nintendo competes against Sony/MS like Roku boxes compete against Sony/ms
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