Topher
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Another great video. Definitely need a heatsink. Makes a big difference.
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Sony open up M2 SSD port to beta testers of system software
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Another great video. Definitely need a heatsink. Makes a big difference.
GHG
Gold Member
Really love how once again the suckers got shown up quick.
Prices already getting more affordable, and you can always count on sales:
SABRENT 4TB Rocket 4 Plus NVMe 4.0 Gen4 PCIe M.2 Internal SSD Extreme Performance Solid State Drive R/W 7100/6600MB/s (SB-RKT4P-4TB) - Newegg.com
Buy SABRENT 4TB Rocket 4 Plus NVMe 4.0 Gen4 PCIe M.2 Internal SSD Extreme Performance Solid State Drive R/W 7100/6600MB/s (SB-RKT4P-4TB) with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!www.newegg.com
Western Digital WD BLACK SN850 NVMe M.2 2280 500GB PCI-Express 4.0 x4 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) WDS500G1XHE w/ Heatsink - Newegg.com
Buy Western Digital WD BLACK SN850 NVMe M.2 2280 500GB PCI-Express 4.0 x4 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) WDS500G1XHE w/ Heatsink with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!
1TB, 199$, high speed, go get em boys
Funny thing is I called all of this before the consoles released and even backed it up with historical price data for proprietary vs non-proprietary storage solutions.
Got called a FUD merchant. They thrive on fiction.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
The other nice thing about the Sony approach is you can use the drive in a PC later if you dont need it for PS5.
Just overall better IMO, for anyone not a dinky casual or whatever.
Especially since there is potential for actually improving load times and whatnot w/ drives that max out the spec.
Just overall better IMO, for anyone not a dinky casual or whatever.
Especially since there is potential for actually improving load times and whatnot w/ drives that max out the spec.
saintjules
Gold Member
It's not bad actually. A lot more tame than his other videos sometimes haha.
MasterCornholio
Member
The only ones that it isn't for art the incredibly dumb or extremely lazy people. For everyone else it's going to be a simple and easy process. Sony really did their best to make the process as easy as possible while still allowing consumers to have choice.
skit_data
Member
That’s the best part about it IMO.
I use all my old HDD from my PS3s and PS4s for storing stuff, I’ll likely do the same if I get a NVME for my PS5.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
That Linus video was surprisingly good. I 100% agree with him on the way Sony has allowed sub 5.5 GBps SSDs. Clearly Ratchet and other games arent built around the 5.5 GBps hard limit but what happens in the future when someone decides to push the SSD read speeds? They wouldve allowed users to buy sub optimal drives that might no longer run games.
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MasterCornholio
Member
Luckily every PS5 includes a 5.5GB/s drive so it's not like it's the end of the world of that happens. People having issues will either upgrade the NVME or move the files to the soldered drive.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Those games could just be put on the internal drive if someone wants to buy a cheaper slower drive now
Thirty7ven
Banned
Yup, since the internal storage is standard and unremovable, the whole “what if” ends up being pure nonsense. You’ll just have install the game in the internal one.
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TheBomb
Member
Phew.
Gen.Grievous
Member
Integrated heatsinks from manufacturers usually use cheap components (paste & pads) to save costs and/or make bad contact because of mass production. So I can't say I'm surprised.
NickFire
Member
I'm still waiting for a beta code from Sony, but went ahead and put a heatsink on one last night that I got from best buy. It really wasn't that hard. Got the heatsink from a different store, and watched a video to be safe. Took me probably 15-20 minutes, but I could probably do it in a couple minutes now tops. Definitely worth doing yourself if you want to save a few bucks. Heat sink was 13, but price difference of ssd was 50 without heat sink.
dano1
A Sheep
Ok thanks. Probably what I’m going to end up doing. Getting the WD sn850 1TB.
graywolf323
Member
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Some drives with higher storage capacities also have faster speeds(like the 2TB Aorus 7000S)
So this video fails.
MasterCornholio
Member
Was that the article where it said they consumers are not smart enough to install the drive?
I remember there was a thread that was locked because the article was just console war bait if I'm remembering it correctly.
MasterCornholio
Member
Not that I know of. It's a shame the Verge didn't really give us any hard data.
MasterCornholio
Member
twilo99
Gold Member
That one is the most interesting of them all..
3900MB/s read
3200MB/s write
and its obviously much cheaper. If the game and the system work fine with it, I don't see why bother with a faster drive, unless you think Sony would allow slower drives to work with the PS5 knowing that some of its future 1st party games won't work properly, which would be a huge blunder and I don't think they would do that.
So they would either restrict this once out of beta, or you get to save money and buy a slower drive, which would be a win.
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
Wrong thread ffs 
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twilo99
Gold Member
Thank you, that is well done test actually and pretty much inline with what the verge reported.
ratchet test starts at around 2min50. and I see zero issues. Congrats to the Sony engineers for achieving this and saving their customers money in the process.
It also proves that this next gen only game would play fine on series s and x, no problem.
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MasterCornholio
Member
Honestly if it doesn't work right you can just transfer it to the internal drive. It wouldn't really be a screw up since everyone can do that.
I've seen some FUD spreading about how Sony are going to force devs to focus on slower drives but that probably won't happen. Just due to the fact that everyone has a 5.5GB/s drive in their system.
At least it shows you the proof unlike the Verges article.
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Tripolygon
Banned
XPG GAMMIX S70 1TB 7400MB/s / 6800MB/s $139
The top heat sink Is slightly too tall but you can replace the top part with off shelf heat sink for $10. Love competition.Robot or human?
www.walmart.com
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Tripolygon
Banned
I just went ahead and bought it. I will test it and report back once it arrives.
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Md Ray
Member
I just read that ADATA M.2 SSDs have high failure rates.
Ulysses 31
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MasterCornholio
Member
Well hopefully it works out for you. The price does seem a bit low to me. But if it works that's great news.
Tripolygon
Banned
It costs more. It will end up being ~$230 while the other one is $160 with the custom heat sink included.
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Md Ray
Member
Y'all thought 3.8 GB/s was the slowest Gen4 SSD?
Some big outlet is about to test Xbox Series's 2.4 GB/s drive on PS5. Slowest of the slowest Gen4 drive currently on the market. Initial test suggests that PS5 at least accepts the drive (i.e. passes the PCIe check to begin formatting) since it's Gen4. They can't wait to test Ratchet now.
Some big outlet is about to test Xbox Series's 2.4 GB/s drive on PS5. Slowest of the slowest Gen4 drive currently on the market. Initial test suggests that PS5 at least accepts the drive (i.e. passes the PCIe check to begin formatting) since it's Gen4. They can't wait to test Ratchet now.
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Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Open vs proprietary… good bet.
MasterCornholio
Member
I thought Gen4s didn't get that slow.
Edit: It's a Gen4×2 instead of a Gen4×4.
That would explain the lower speed. But I'm surprised the PS5 even accepts it.
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ManaByte
Banned
Md Ray
Member
Well, the Series console's SSDs are Gen4 with x2 lanes. MS took a Gen3 SN530 and added custom ASIC to make it Gen4.
MasterCornholio
Member
Ok that would explain why I can't find any Gen4 NVMEs in the market like that. Still surprised the PS5 accepts 2 lanes though.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
wtf. I literally just bought a 980 Pro for $200 the other day.
Incredible price for such high specs.
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Tripolygon
Banned
They are not typically that low. Only the Series X Gen4 is that low.
MasterCornholio
Member
I really wished they did what DF did. Basically show the FPS during the I/O stress points. They would have been interesting to see.
MasterCornholio
Member
Yeah from what
Md Ray
explained to me it's a modified GEN3 drive. Pretty much a GEN3.5 drive if you know what I mean.
Tripolygon
Banned
It was only a few weeks ago that
MrFunSocks
was arguing that the price of these SSD won't drop. But as we can see over the last couple of days the prices have dropped on a lot of these gen4 SSDs.Specs-wise it is a gen4x2 SSD regardless of how low the speed is compare to other gen4 SSDs.Yeah from what
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MasterCornholio
Member
It was only a few weeks ago that
Specs-wise it is a gen4x2 SSD regardless of how low the speed is compare to other gen4 SSDs.
Not sure what other enhancements Gen4 brings other than the additional speed.
As for anyone saying prices won't drop the drives come from the PC market which has a ton of competition. Anyone thinking prices will remain stagnant are just fooling themselves. Wait till Gen5 comes out and that becomes the new hotness.
Dust-by-Monday
Member
I just bought a Samsung 980 Pro 2TB and a heatsink. It should come before the update rolls out.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Found a review for this. Apparently it launched at $200.
Adata XPG Gammix S70 M.2 NVMe SSD Review: Big Heatsink, Hot Performance
Adata’s XPG Gammix S70 offers up blazing fast sequential performance for avid gamers and PC enthusiasts.
Just an FYI, The 1TB version only has a 5.5 GBps write speed which should be good enough for the PS5 and is stll higher than the 980 Pro.
OUR VERDICT
Adata’s XPG Gammix S70 is fast and features almost everything you could want from a high-end PCIe Gen4 NVMe SSD, but the heatsink is a bit restrictive and not quite as refined as our current best picks.FOR
- + Very fast sequential performance
- + High endurance
- + AES 256-bit hardware encryption
- + Black PCB + Heatsink
- + 5-year warranty
AGAINST
- - It may be physically incompatible with some motherboards
- - High idle power consumption on the desktop
- - Slow write speeds after the SLC cache fills
- - Pricey
They recommend you do not remove the heatsink or replace it because it might damage the chip. But other than that, it seems to be roughly on par with the 980 Pro despite the higher speeds. Still for $60 cheaper, this is a very good get.
And since its Walmart, if it doesnt fit in the PS5 you can always return it.
Dust-by-Monday
Member
Some games could even put a disclaimer that if you're using an aftermarket SSD, you might not get the same experience as using the built-in SSD.
RafterXL
Member
Just leave the original heatsink on and don't put the cover back over the drive. With the side back on it won't be exposed anyway.
MasterCornholio
Member
Well the beta already has a disclaimer to warn consumers about slower drives and how to fix the issue.
Dust-by-Monday
Member
Yeah I get that, but if a specific game REALLY maxes out the 5.5GB/Sec, the developer could warn the person that the drive they're using might be too slow for "an optimal user experience".