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Sony open up M2 SSD port to beta testers of system software
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Yeah it will be an email. If you use Gmail, check the Promotions tab. Mine was in there. Did you sign up for it already? I was getting salty until I got my email yesterday, lol.
So far, no issues. I got the Aorus (also have the WD SN 850 with no heat sink, will decide if I get a heat sink or just stick it in one of my external enclosures) It fit in good, no fans ramping up yet. I have seen some ppl post about not using the NVMe slot cover with heat sinks that were too big.
Transfer speeds are the main reason why I use NVMe as external drives too. So...fast....
One weird thing I noticed is it formatted to 1TB...the external I use formatted to 918GB. My external is PCIe 3 tho. I thought that was strange. Also the M.2 has Other like the PS5 storage, thats interesting. My external doesnt.
And I think the best options might be a drive with no heat sink and you get your own. Save some money this way.
Yup. This is why off the shelf is great. And I have options for use: internal or external for my PC or PS5. I havent been keeping up with any negatives for using regular external drives for Series consoles....but I can use it for that too.Look at the options.
Options are great.
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Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
So far, I'll say this. The installation, as well noted, couldn't be easier.
WD SN850 2TB with 3rd party MHQJRH brand heatsink added fit into the NVME space perfectly with the cover able to be added. The read speed on the drive was detected as 6542.095 MB/s. I haven't yet got to test anything proper in varying game tests or anything. I'm moving about 550GB of files from extended USB storage from a standard WD Platter My Book drive, so I won't bother noting anything speed or time related there.
When I had the system open, I took the opportunity to thoroughly clean out the fins, main fan, and vacuum out the system through the dust ports. After adding back everything and getting to this point, the system is quite whisper quiet while doing the data transfer from USB to M.2 drive.
WD SN850 2TB with 3rd party MHQJRH brand heatsink added fit into the NVME space perfectly with the cover able to be added. The read speed on the drive was detected as 6542.095 MB/s. I haven't yet got to test anything proper in varying game tests or anything. I'm moving about 550GB of files from extended USB storage from a standard WD Platter My Book drive, so I won't bother noting anything speed or time related there.
When I had the system open, I took the opportunity to thoroughly clean out the fins, main fan, and vacuum out the system through the dust ports. After adding back everything and getting to this point, the system is quite whisper quiet while doing the data transfer from USB to M.2 drive.
Imtjnotu
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Thanks again. In the beta now boys
My guy. The email was right there in promotions off Gmail hahaha!
Thanks again. In the beta now boys
Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
Some stats.
This is all estimated. didn't do anything scientific obviously. I used a stopwatch and tried my best to time out some things for a couple of items, and with a couple of games. It takes a bunch of time and patience to move files back and forth, time things..etc.:
2TB WD SN850 w/ 3rd party heatsink vs. Internal SSD:
Detecting games/apps in console storage: 8.7s
Detecting games/apps in M.2 drive: 1.4s
MLB The Show 21 60.21GB (Digital version):
Move from M.2 to Internal SSD: 4 mins 28s
Launch from Internal SSD to start menu: 24.62s
Move from Internal SSD to M.2: About 50s
Launch from M.2 drive to start menu: 23.32d
Hitman 3 62.02GB (Disc version):
Move from M.2 to Internal SSD: 4 M 33s
Launch from Internal SSD to start menu: 21.37s
Move from Internal SSD to M.2: 53s
Launch from M.2 drive to start menu: 21.05s
Edit: Perhaps this maybe shows that the internal drive has a slower write than the NVME? I'm not sure if that's true.. but.. maybe?
This is all estimated. didn't do anything scientific obviously. I used a stopwatch and tried my best to time out some things for a couple of items, and with a couple of games. It takes a bunch of time and patience to move files back and forth, time things..etc.:
2TB WD SN850 w/ 3rd party heatsink vs. Internal SSD:
Detecting games/apps in console storage: 8.7s
Detecting games/apps in M.2 drive: 1.4s
MLB The Show 21 60.21GB (Digital version):
Move from M.2 to Internal SSD: 4 mins 28s
Launch from Internal SSD to start menu: 24.62s
Move from Internal SSD to M.2: About 50s
Launch from M.2 drive to start menu: 23.32d
Hitman 3 62.02GB (Disc version):
Move from M.2 to Internal SSD: 4 M 33s
Launch from Internal SSD to start menu: 21.37s
Move from Internal SSD to M.2: 53s
Launch from M.2 drive to start menu: 21.05s
Edit: Perhaps this maybe shows that the internal drive has a slower write than the NVME? I'm not sure if that's true.. but.. maybe?
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Md Ray
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DigitalScrap
Member
Well, I finally got a beta code last night, and my WD SN850 (1TB w/WD factory heatsink) will be here on Monday. Looking forward to having more storage available!
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graywolf323
Member
me seeing everyone else getting PS5 beta invites while I've only gotten the PS4 beta invite (despite not having a PS4 any longer)
Dusktildawn48
Member
Bought and installed a Samsung 980 pro 500gb, wanted the terabyte but I only use my PS5 for exclusives so I figured the extra space wouldn't get used. Gonna move ratchet over to it and mess around just for fun.
PleaseDontBanMe
Banned
The 3d audio settings is disabled for me for some odd reason
MasterCornholio
Member
Nice to see so many compatible drives.
saintjules
Gold Member
Gonna give the Beta test a go. Got it yesterday in email. A first it seems.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Amazon sent this bad boy fast as in next day fast!
Here is a comparison pic with my XSX nvme drive...
Luving those specs!
Got beta and installed it and the Aorus. Everything went good.
The read speeds were almost 6600.
Omnipunctual Godot
Gold Member
Guess I can get a 1TB for my PS5, wait for prices to come down on 2/4TB and then move it to my PC for DirectStorage.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Aorus 2TB 7000s is 6850 Write Speed.
Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
I think it’s associated with the account it was issued to.
Oh damn well good to know. Was thinking of giving it to somebody on here.
Evilms
Banned
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
2+TB models are mentioned in that list for every model.But the 1TB is 5500
all data in this table are based on 1TB versions
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JerryinSoCal
Member
That was with tax and shipping, it was $120 less the normal price, basically it was $449 and the rest is tax and shipping. Amazon has it listed for $449 but no heatsink.$479??
I paid 345€=$408 without a heatsink.
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Rocco Schiavone
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ethomaz
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FranXico
Member
What is he hoping to prove though. That PS5 SSD upgrades are even cheaper?Of course he has lol
It will use all his money to try to find something against Sony
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
I was hoping not to have to do that hehe. Would the PS5 be able to update its firmware?
I do wonder how much responsibilities it does delegate to the SSD controller in the PS5 and how much firmware updates are needed in this case. Mmh… is there a Changelog? With only macOS based machines it would be a bit tricky to do.
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Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
I do it think that for PS5 use you will see much more benefit going that much higher compared to the 5.5 GB/s I/O rating considering the priority levels really stress the reads from the drive.
Still, incredible how quickly these drives are going already, going with off the shelves solutions is paying off
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Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
Not trying to shit on your suggestion, but are Sony advising you need to do that? What benefits are you going to get on a closed architecture based console?
Understand formatting it for use in Windows and updating firmware for PC use just trying to work out if any difference will be noticed on PS5?
Edit: and I don’t have a adaptor to format it in anyway.
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Rocco Schiavone
Member
I highly doubt that It's necessary to do that.
The drives work right out of the box.
One issue with the SN850 was X570 motherboard related.
How are you supposed to update the firmware If you haven't a X570 motherboard btw??
Mithos
Member
You just run the software** for said nvme and make the update it will update the firmware no matter what motherboard you have.
** For Kingston it's called "Kingston SSD Manager", for WD it's called "Western Digital SSD Dashboard".
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S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Not needed.
Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
I did not experience any issues installing the SN850 2TB model in the Playstation 5 out of the box. It detected appropriately and detected with a read speed in line with the speeds others have been posting. I'm not sure it would be necessary to do a firmware update. I can't say it would hurt either. If anyone has done an install of this drive without the firmware update successfully and then with the firmware update after and re-installed the drive, I'd be curious if it made any difference.
MC68000
Member
Unfortunately the PS5 doesn't have that functionality in the OS. It would be awesome if they added it in a future release.
The manufacturer recommends it. You don't even need to format it. Install the drive in the NVME slot and run the software.
As someone else pointed out, you dont need a X570 motherboard. Any motherboard with a NVME slot will work.
Drive vendors release new firmware to address performance, wear and thermals etc. I think its a good idea, especially with drives that recently hit the market.
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
I don’t have a slot lol - use a laptop that has mechanical 2.5 inch hard drive. If anyone can recommend an adaptor so I can format it?
MC68000
Member
You don't need to format the drive, the PS5 will format it when installed. Also, you don't need to update the firmware for it to work, it's just good practice, if you have the ability.
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
Right okay cool - got ya thanks.
graywolf323
Member
I was in the same boat and since I ordered the WD850 w/ heatsink already installed I couldn't just use an enclosure so I ended up ordering this off Amazon yesterday which should be delivered tomorrow
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I'll let you know how it works, I'm only getting it to update the firmware
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
No, the issue he was taking about, x570 related, was about the only bug (related to write speeds) only reported against that chipset.
So, not sure you need to update the FW at all: the Read speed is what matters the most and nobody knows if the write speed issue happens on the PS5 console too.
NickFire
Member
Had beta invite in email from a few days back. Finally decided to get ssd but the ones attached heat sinks were sold out. Decided to buy ssd and heat sink separately today, and got wd sn850 plus grabbed heat sink. Got home, put code in. No download option. Do it again, says redeemed. Search everywhere to download beta. No option. Look again, and realize I had code for a PS4 beta, not a ps5 beta. Omg not cool.
MC68000
Member
Here is how you download the Beta firmware.
- Go to Settings > System > System Software > System Software Update and Settings.
- Select Update System Software (beta) > Update
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graywolf323
Member
oh dang that's cool about it being account-based so you can test it on multiple systems
sadly I don't know if any of my friends got into the beta or I'd ask them to sign into my PS5 to update it X-P
NickFire
Member
Issue is I thought that I had a code, but after getting ssd realized it’s a PS4 beta and not ps5 beta code I got
MC68000
Member
Damn. That sucks. The Beta seems stable. Hopefully there is a GA release soon.
MC68000
Member
I am afraid to try and update my kids PS5s. Sony might think I am hooking people up and ban the PS5 or my account. Only I use my two boxes so its legit. The kids can wait. Besides, I didnt order them a drive. Such a horrible parent..lol
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Updating the fw on these drives for use on PS5 is not necessary.
DigitalScrap
Member
Installed the 1TB WD SN850 Black last night, and it went as easily as I expected. PS5 stated the read at just shy of 6700. Definitely happy to have space on the PS5 again.
I didn't bother to update the SN850 firmware yet, but I may do so at some point.
I didn't bother to update the SN850 firmware yet, but I may do so at some point.