Sony says encouragement helps online gamers get better. I disagree.

Humiliation or Encouragement?

  • Friendship!

    Votes: 22 33.8%

  • Brutality!

    Votes: 43 66.2%
  • Total voters
    65
DryvBy

DryvBy

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I can't believe I have to be this kind of old geezer, but online bullying motivated me to get good at online games. Back in my day, and probably your day, the Tribes, COD, Q3A, UT, etc servers called you names for sucking at the game. That pushed me to get better.



Are you motivated by encouragement or humiliation, GAF?
 
BE LAME

BE A PUSSY

I agree OP, online play was way funnier before the speech police came in to moderate lobbies and games.
 
I'm respectful. I say "Fuck you noob, have good day."

I'm inclusive. I say "fuck off retard" to everybody, regardless of their gender and sexual orientation.

I'm tolerant. I tolerate your shit as long you're not on my team.
 
Sony now injecting DEI into their CoC. If I call someone gay as an insult I'm violating the terms

Only a matter of time before they start bricking people's consoles for not being woke, as you know snowflakes will be reporting people who don't comply while on mics
 
And to think Playstation used to be cool.

Disappointed King Of The Hill GIF
 
I caught a 14 day ban not long ago for shit talking with a random over a FIFA match in private messages. A fucking service I PAY FOR. This is the status quo now. Just tragicomic.
 
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Trash talk is great, especially with friends. But it has to come from either a good or humorous place.

People who just rage out at their teammates in CoD or Halo or whatever have never been helpful or fun to play with.

Again, unless it's funny.
 
DryvBy said:

Sony says encouragement helps online gamers get better. I disagree.

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/sony...e-gamers-get-better-i-disagree.1686699/#reply
I can't believe I have to be this kind of old geezer, but online bullying motivated me to get good at online games. Back in my day, and probably your day, the Tribes, COD, Q3A, UT, etc servers called you names for sucking at the game. That pushed me to get better.



Are you motivated by encouragement or humiliation, GAF?
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Sony only said "you can help create a better experience by being considerate for those new", which is true, it's just common sense.

If I would be new I'd have a better experience if the other ones would be considerate instead of having them bullying me.

I assume most newbies if get bullied block and report the asshole and probably may leave the game -at least its multiplayer mode- or mute all the players. Which is bad not only for the newbie, but also for the game and its community.

If you did enjoy getting bullied it just means you are masochistic, which is not the case for most people.

Some friendly trash talk is good and ok, but this is a different thing.
 
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Most of my gaming has been without mics - just text chat. After playing Pavlov Shack a bunch with mic'd up 8 year olds, I can say I am glad that was the case.
 
This is just basic social etiquette. If you can't play online without being an unhinged psycho, mute yourself and don't engage with the social aspects. You're probably 35 and yelling at a 14 year old coming home from school, congrats.
 
I feel like there is a big middle-ground between encouragement and trash-talking.

Encouragement is useless if the person doesn't understand their mistake, and if they keep making it ya gotta try something different than gassing them up that everything is ok...but trashing people who aren't good at a game yet will probably push them away.
 
Rush2112 said:
Except that no one is even encouraging in the first place. This is an example of a straw man argument.
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*Game looks like total slop and unfinished, but it's made by some indie communist.

"Don't insult this product. People worked hard on it. It's not my thing, dev, but great job!"

🤢🤮
 
DryvBy said:
I can't believe I have to be this kind of old geezer, but online bullying motivated me to get good at online games. Back in my day, and probably your day, the Tribes, COD, Q3A, UT, etc servers called you names for sucking at the game. That pushed me to get better.



Are you motivated by encouragement or humiliation, GAF?
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I think encouragement is better for the average player. I don't care if I got bullied playing online or being called a shit player, but I think for most players pointing them in the right direction is a better route. I see it all the time on World of Warcraft where players who end up sucking get shit on after a wipe and blamed for either not knowing the fight or having sucky gear.

For example one guy didn't know the fight few months ago, I pointed him to mythictrap.com which shows a very easy few second video and instructions for each boss and phase, after he had watched that we downed the boss(he survived too), he thanked me and said he didn't know about the website. That's another thing people don't realize, the amount of variables involved and how it could cause someone to be a sucky player. But I guess this is a different game and cant be compared to COD, but im sure its not that far from it.
 
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I remember the first time I played online on Xbox 360. It was some kind of low budget bootleg counterstrike demo with online play. There was a squeaker saying "faggot, faggot, faggot" nonstop on voice chat while he played. I thought it was hilarious 😂.
 
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I enjoy helping new players.
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Same. Probably my favorite thing about Demon's Souls. People that enjoy bullying people online are usually extreme losers. Usually bottom of the barrel weak people that eat shit every day for breakfast, so they have to get some self confidence shitting on people in safety online.
 
I dunno, I kinda see the point. When I was playing CS, I had to really train. If I didn't get 3 sets of 10 reps being called gay, faggot etc I just couldn't perform.
 
cormack12 said:
I dunno, I kinda see the point. When I was playing CS, I had to really train. If I didn't get 3 sets of 10 reps being called gay, faggot etc I just couldn't perform.
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Pretty tame lobbies. If I didn't get called the hard R while my team shot me on spawn, then how could I ever improve?
 
Brutality is why I'm a single-player & co-op gamer. I look at games as relax and recharge time, not a place to prove myself against other people.
 
never bugged me, but I was never being an asshat like that to others either. I liked being an asshat to the selfish pricks online lol. The quitters, the team switchers and team stackers, the non-objective players, the stat players, the non-team players, ...the ones who hide behind the team and farm...
 
I mostly agree, but also disagree OP. There's a line…but yea, most servers and lobbies are way too pussified now. On the other hand, I'm 43 and used to be heavy into shooters competitively and was okay with the majority of garbage trash talk…however, I've actually quit games for toxic bullying that aren't really competitive, like Final Fantasy 14. Simply because dirtbags bullying in dungeons when trying to learn the game. So that is a situation where, naw being an ass isn't helping anyone get better, it's pushing people out of your game. I could only imagine a less mature child having to deal with some of that shit nowadays, especially with in game communication being way more widespread in games now.
 
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Love the online uncensored voice chat back then. Lots of entertaining and funny voice chat moments.

There's still voice chats close to them but they are usually in the more indie online chats like SCP-Secret Lab on Steam.
 
Quit paying for it and teach them a lesson. We need to get back to free online play anyways. Sony of America needs a kick to the head anyways.
 
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I dont mind trash talking with close friends I know in real life but with random stranger online, I have zero interest in that shit.
 
Trash talking is only fun when its a group of friends. Randoms trash talking or insulting just make the game toxic and dosent help anyone get better. When i played FF14 i was very late to the party so most players there was much more experienced than me, the FF14 community was always super helpfull giving me up tips and good advice. My skin is thick enough if they said: "fuck off nood we not gonna spend time teaching u how to play", i could have dealt with that and be ok, but instead i had a much better time in the game and respect for the community when sometimes they spent like 5 minutes of they time just explaining me the dungeon tricks or something like that.
 
Somebody who is interested in getting better, will learn and find all the information needed to gitgut. The ones that complain that they don't have the time for gaming, are the ones that will never improve, and will be permanently dogshit no matter how many times you trash talk them in games. This is just how it is.

Encouragement is for children. If you need some encourgement as an adult, you a bitch, bro.😌

I miss the ps3 days when people were sending me massive walls of trash talking while doing demon's souls pvp with the scrapping spear. These were the days to remember. All this polically correct bs is simply not how your average gamer plays, especially games that are even a bit competitive.
 
It's not so much trash talk that I miss as it is spouting offensive remarks and jokes about people's immutable characteristics. That's something we can all enjoy.
 
"Yay, great session team. We didn't do very well, by any metric, and all of us wasted hours of our lives...but in the end I registered that UnicornPiglet12 actually figured out a basic game mechanic and I could sometimes hear something else then your heavy breathing. Fucking well done my dude, or is it dudette? No offence, my person shaped (?) friend. Please don't report me for breaching the SafeSpace & WrongThink ToS. Hope you can join us next weekend without learning anything on you own. We're here for you and we appriciate you. ❤️"
 
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