[RUMOR] PlayStation Reportedly Set To Launch PC Ports 6 Months After Release Moving Forward

But DS1 wasn't published by Sony on PC. How would we know that's not happening again?
Besides, these might be new plans that only affects unreleased games. They need to have Nixxes ready to make the port too.
That's a fair point. The article this thread was made from specifically talked about this rumor applying to Death Stranding 2:

"According to Detective Seeds, sources from Nixxes Software have revealed that Sony will now release PlayStation games on PC six months after a game's original launch. This could mean that a game like Death Stranding 2 will be on PC before the end of 2025"

But it seems like just the writer's own interpretation of what this detective seeds person is saying without getting clarification from them. Logically if it applies to all future games starting now, then I agree with you that Ghost of Yotei would be the first real test for this rumor.
 
if the next Xbox console plays PC games, there is a high likelihood that Sony would cancel (or further delay) PC releases. This will happen as long as Xbox is perceived as a console and a competitor.
Realistically Xbox will never threaten PlayStation so Sony only hurt themselves if they halt or delay PC releases because of Xbox.

Instead of an extra 10-20-30-whatever million bonus customers they'll stay at what they already have and whatever problem that gave birth to these ideas will remain unsolved.

Microsoft has solved their money equation through their rude awakening losing the console war.
- 30M isn't enough… 😔
- Wait! I see 80M more over there!
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I think the middle ground is dumb.
Either close it all up like Nintendo. No ports at all. Literally pull games from Steam.
Or go multi and take proper advantage of having access to a bigger audience day 1 when the hype is the highest.
 
Either close it all up like Nintendo. No ports at all. Literally pull games from Steam.
Or go multi and take proper advantage of having access to a bigger audience day 1 when the hype is the highest.
We can agree on that. With regard to Xbox not being seen as a threat, I don't know. I think Sony will be hawkish for one more generation.
 
It's not about money

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says the guys paying U$ 500 dollars on a last gen console and U$90 on games, its clearly not about money
 
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Are you insane? That is like 90% of PC players with high end rigs. Why you think so many in this thread are begging for bloodborne? And they have for years.

Spending $3k in hopes a game comes to PC and spending $3k to play many games, but also hoping in addition a specific game comes to PC. These are two entirely different things.
 
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Are you insane? That is like 90% of PC players with high end rigs. Why you think so many in this thread are begging for bloodborne? And they have for years.
But PC gamers with high end rigs (80 series and up Nvidia & high end AMD gpu's) make up less than 5% of the PC gaming market. Go check out the Steam Hardware Surveys. The behavior of this segment of PC players isn't representative of the vast majority of PC gamers, and one shouldn't use their behavior to make any generalizations of the overall PC gaming market.
 
lol, I din't want their stuff


Astrobot is the only PS5 game I'm interested in but I'm prepared to wait until a second hand PS5 can be picked up for under €100 to play it if it don't come to the PC.

Only another 5 years or so to wait then.
I borrowed a friends PS5 to play Astrobot. I bought the game for him and I got to take his PS5 home with me for a few months.
 
But PC gamers with high end rigs (80 series and up Nvidia & high end AMD gpu's) make up less than 5% of the PC gaming market. Go check out the Steam Hardware Surveys. The behavior of this segment of PC players isn't representative of the vast majority of PC gamers, and one shouldn't use their behavior to make any generalizations of the overall PC gaming market.
If that is the case then why is a very small subset asking a company to cater to them? Sony won't release the game on their own current gen hardware with 80 million users but you expect them to do it for a couple of million on PC?
 
If that is the case then why is a very small subset asking a company to cater to them? Sony won't release the game on their own current gen hardware with 80 million users but you expect them to do it for a couple of million on PC?
The premise is flawed from the get go. One doesn't need to have a high end system to play these games.
 
But PC gamers with high end rigs (80 series and up Nvidia & high end AMD gpu's) make up less than 5% of the PC gaming market. Go check out the Steam Hardware Surveys. The behavior of this segment of PC players isn't representative of the vast majority of PC gamers, and one shouldn't use their behavior to make any generalizations of the overall PC gaming market.
Then again, what the "majority of systems" on the survey has isn't of particular relevance, when you realize that the top 20% of the users on Steam does 80% of the software purchases.

P.S. Not that I agree with Neofire's petty whining about those pesky elitist PC gamers "begging" for precious Sony exclusives. I'm just pointing a fact.
 
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Then again, what the "majority of systems" on the survey has isn't of particular relevance, when you realize that the top 20% of the users on Steam does 80% of the software purchases.

P.S. Not that I agree with Neofire's petty whining about those pesky elitist PC gamers "begging" for precious Sony exclusives. I'm just pointing a fact.
Even if top 20% make up the "majority" of software sales, at best, high end PC's will only make up 25% of this particular segment (top 20% of steam customers). That's also ignoring the fact that many PC owners with high-end equipment, that have Steam installed are creators, developers, engineers and are casual gamers, meaning they wouldn't be a part of the top 20% of steam customers. Regardless of any which way you look at it, it's not a very large segment of the total PC market.
 
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We can agree on that. With regard to Xbox not being seen as a threat, I don't know. I think Sony will be hawkish for one more generation.
Sony kinda have to just forget about Xbox vs PlayStation. That's over.

Microsoft have a different approach now, and they'll have a bigger audience for their games than Sony because of their changes. Xbox+PC+PS+NSW2. That's a lot.

But they still won't compete directly with Sony.
Think about it…
If they'll experiment with some new Windows PC living room boxes in different variations then Sony will gain from that as well through more customers for their PC releases on Steam. Assuming Steam will run on them of course but that's expected now I think.

Sony just need to own their spot in that space as well imo. Create a launcher. Add exclusive features and content. Day 1 access. PS+ subscription library.

Then if they get suspicious over Microsoft gaining ground I'm sure they could restrict access to the launcher on the new Xbox by only allowing certain CPUs. "Important! There is currently no Xbox PC version of this app. Thank you for your attention to this matter!)
 
Then if they get suspicious over Microsoft gaining ground I'm sure they could restrict access to the launcher on the new Xbox by only allowing certain CPUs. "Important! There is currently no Xbox PC version of this app. Thank you for your attention to this matter!)
This is what i'm referring to, in the unlikely scenario that MS gains ground. If it's all just a fart in the wind, then yeah, nothing changes in strategy.

But I don't know if they would be allowed to restrict the games on Xbox PC if the Xbox PC behaves like a regular PC . That's an arbitrary and artificial software lock and would be begging for a lawsuit against anti-competitive practices.
 
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But I don't know if they would be allowed to restrict the games on Xbox PC if the Xbox PC behaves like a regular PC . That's an arbitrary and artificial software lock and would be begging for a lawsuit against anti-competitive practices.
Afaik there are no rules that says that everything needs to work on everything. If they have their own launcher they could do whatever they want I think, it'll be their own bubble.

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AI response:
"Could Sony Block Its Launcher on These Xbox Devices?

Yes — even if future Xbox consoles run a Windows variant, Sony could still block its launcher from installing by:

• Detecting Xbox-specific hardware or OS signatures
• Requiring features or drivers not supported on Xbox
• Enforcing account restrictions or DRM that Xbox doesn't support


In short, Microsoft may blur the line between console and PC, but Sony would still have the technical means to exclude Xbox from its PC ecosystem — especially if the launcher is distributed outside the Microsoft Store."
 
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Instead of placing petty emojis, feel free to describe a realistic scenario where Playstation will absolutely crash like Xbox because the vast majority of it's installbase will move onto PC and Nintendo.

That's truly wishfull thinking.
I laughed because it's almost as if you're barely reading what I said; and because even going with your perception of what I said, you'd still be wrong.

First, let's address the smaller problem:
"vast majority". I've been told this so many times, and it's always a strawman. I don't think it will be the "vast majority". It doesn't need to be the vast majority. It just has to be enough to change the calculus. Anything close to a 50% decline from PS5 to PS6 would be catastrophic, maybe for Sony as a company all else being equal. Xbox is 10 years into an existential meltdown by dropping from 85 million with the 360 to 58 million with the Xbox One. Barely more than 30%.

If you drop even by 10%, it starts a spiral that's very difficult to get out of. This gen, Sony fucked their pipeline over and lost a lot of time, money and human resource they'll never get back with assorted distractions and terrible miscalculations. That means they're less capable of getting appealing games out. Fewer appealing games, fewer sales. Fewer sales, lower projections. Lower projections, lower budgets, less appealing games, fewer sales, there's your loop. This is what happened to MS; only Sony doesn't have the trillion dollar corporation to throw a 80-90 billion dollar Hail Mary when push comes to shove.

The larger problem is that I didn't say "they'll move to PC or Nintendo." I said that you lack the imagination to consider that there will be a damaging chunk of people that will walk away from gaming entirely. There are things portending that already. As it is, current gen console adoption is lower than last at the same point in the lifecycle, and by a lot. Xbox One was crashing in sales momentum by 2018, so it was almost certainly in the 50 millions by that point. We have on good authority that the Series consoles haven't even hit 30 million units, and the sales momentum is still nosediving. The PS5, despite this utter collapse in competition, is 1.9 million units behind the PS4.

I'll also say this: It's an exogenous factor, and there are a lot of them to consider, but GTA6 is judgement day for at least the remainder of this decade for the games market. I won't bother elaborating on it more, because I don't think enough people are ready for that conversation yet.
 
Bloodborne
Gravity Rush
Tokyo Jungle
Demon's Souls

Unless one or more of these get ported you can keep your exclusives to yourselves for all I care.
 
I laughed because it's almost as if you're barely reading what I said;
You're not wrong, because I did barely read what you said.

As for the rest of your post, it boils down to this sentence right here:
I said that you lack the imagination to consider that there will be a damaging chunk of people that will walk away from gaming entirely.
I don't lack the imagination, this is pure make-believe based on what happened to Xbox.

But there are 2 key-elements that make your entire premise wishfull-thinking:

1- Playstation =/= Xbox.
Both platform-holders are in no way comparable as to how they have positioned themselves in the market.

2- With Xbox dead, the market completely changed and what applied to the competitive scene with PS and Xbox clashing, doesn't apply anymore.

That logic of yours is purely based on years of fanboyism, FUD, delusion and echo-chambers.
 
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GTA6 is judgement day for at least the remainder of this decade for the games market. I won't bother elaborating on it more, because I don't think enough people are ready for that conversation yet.
I'm definitely ready for that conversation. Post it in spoiler if you think people will jump from roof tops from the shock.
🙂
 
Random dude has to be a reliable insider when you have Senior VP saying they're going Third Party and by that, the result is multiplat game releases after some period (if any at all) is more of an inevitability?
Their Senior VP didn't say they are going 3rd party at all.

He just said that now in gaming -and Sony as a whole- they aren't anymore hardware centric, that they are now also focusing on other businesses to engage their communities such as adaptations to other mediums (movies, tv shows, manga, anime...), or the music concerts or fandom community websites, as they are doing as part of the recently announced strategic partnership with Bandai Namco. All this being part of a Sony Group wide transition to focus more on helping creators and not just the hardware it's used to run their work.

We do know that when Sony funds and publishes a game, it is generally considered first-party, whether they own the studio or not. Shuhei has clarified this pretty recently.
If the game publisher is the platform holder, the game is first party. If the game publisher isn't the platform holder, it's 3rd party. Independently if the publisher owns the lead dev studio or not, and independently if the publisher owns the IP or not.

This is the difference between first and 3rd party.
 
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Are you insane? That is like 90% of PC players with high end rigs. Why you think so many in this thread are begging for bloodborne? And they have for years.
"That is like 90% of PC players with high end rigs."
Please dont tell me you really believe majority of PC gamers out there have a high end rig? you are trolling right?
 
This is dumb. They need to release it day and date to get with the hype cycle.

How many times are Sony going to release games months/years after their ps debut for it to do terrible sales.

Pc gamers don't want a half assed ports half a year after release.
 
Sony will stop selling on the PlayStation PSN Store, with 100% revenue for Sony, and will sell on Steam, earning only 70% of the revenue, while also discouraging PS5 sales.

Has Valve Already Released Half-Life for PSVR2?

This rumor is fabricated because it's exactly what Xbox and PC fanboys want to hear.
 
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Was a time when people post this I would laugh, but seeing Sony doing this to TLOUSpart2 the entire fucking PS5 generation was depressing.
To be fair, his post has nothing to do with what happened to TLOU Part 2. They released a PS4 version very very late in the generation, and then they made a proper PS5 port to it, like Ghost of Tsushima, and called it « remastered ».

His original post was to remaster the 2022 remake of The Last of Us.

The Last of Us remake was a welcome one, the original game was too much of a PS3 game, despite its PS4 port called Remastered
 
This is dumb. They need to release it day and date to get with the hype cycle.

How many times are Sony going to release games months/years after their ps debut for it to do terrible sales.

Pc gamers don't want a half assed ports half a year after release.
True, but that "half assed port" bit won't get better with day 1 releases unless they completely change the work flow. There is always a lead platform and it will never be PC with Sony's games, unfortunately. Less time to refine a PC version will likely mean more problems.
They would need to have the main team working on the PC version instead of having Nixxes coming in to port. Which isn't realistic for a console focused company. Best case alternative is if Nixxes could work in parallell with the main dev team for the last 2 years or so in a project.
 
True, but that "half assed port" bit won't get better with day 1 releases unless they completely change the work flow. There is always a lead platform and it will never be PC with Sony's games, unfortunately. Less time to refine a PC version will likely mean more problems.
They would need to have the main team working on the PC version instead of having Nixxes coming in to port. Which isn't realistic for a console focused company. Best case alternative is if Nixxes could work in parallell with the main dev team for the last 2 years or so in a project.
Even if it's half assed at launch it will still sell alot better due to being in that hype launch. By the time it releases a lot of pc gamers have moved on
 
Bloodborne
Gravity Rush
Tokyo Jungle
Demon's Souls

Unless one or more of these get ported you can keep your exclusives to yourselves for all I care.
Let me add Shadow of The Colossus to that list.
It's old and I already owned both the PS2 and PS4 version (remake), but I would purchase it again just for the sake of preserving it in my Steam library (AND being able to play it at a high framerate, too).
 
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Even if it's half assed at launch it will still sell alot better due to being in that hype launch. By the time it releases a lot of pc gamers have moved on
Yeah that I agree on.

They should rethink their strategy.

The delays are said to be there to lure over PC gamers to console. But let's be real, it's not like a PC only gamer will go out and buy a console just to play one or two games per year a little earlier. That'll be the most expensive games ever.

And the delays are also there to keep console gamers satisfied staying on console. But I really don't see console gamers staying on console just because they can play one or two games earlier.

The whole release strategy is strange tbh. It's like they think millions of people are sitting on the edge wondering what to do and those few games are what will tip the scale, without them they'll be elsewhere.

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Anyone with a mid range PC can play bloodborne right now at 60+ fps


And most people simply couldn't give a shit because there are tons of new Souls-likes hitting the market constantly, and many of us played the game to death 10+ years ago when it came it out.

The constant harping on about this game is so lame and artificial. If Sony actually patched it to 60/120 on PS5 and dared ask more than $10 for it, they'd get murdered by the same people clutching their pearls over its non-existence. And that's a fact.
 
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