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[phant0m]

This industry is run by fucking retards

Most corporate leaders are

I get that this sucks on an emotional level and I feel genuinely bad for those affected at Bluepoint.

The reality is simply that if your studio doesn't produce something that seems valuable to management, you're on borrowed time.

For all the people saying "this is retarded", why exactly did they deserve to stay open more than any other studio in the group ? Because ultimately that's what it boils down to.

If your audience (eg us) thinks you do great things, and the media (reviewers) thinks you do great things, but management doesn't see the value?

Then perhaps it is management that should be on borrowed time. The paper pushers and MBAs at Sony need to be taken behind the shed, not the studios. They don't see the 'intangibles', the value or brand, player loyalty, etc. Just spreadsheets.

Source: am MBA.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Yet Bluepoint was the casualty of more failed GaaS.

When it's 4th and long, you have to throw it deep.

The offense failed because of what happened on 1st, 2nd, and 3rd down.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

The video game industry is run by retards.

Yup very talented studio shutdown because of retarded executive decision making.

Their heads should be first on the chopping block.

 

[Hyper_hyper]

FUCK YOU JIM RYAN

Nvm

 

[Braag]

MS and Sony buying studios to close or downsize them...

 

[Fabieter]

I swear every world wide studio head of EA was better than this maniac. What an absolute z tier management.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Disastrous decision making yet again. Worst console gen ever.

Everyone knows Gen 7 was the worst. No SEGA.

 

[AGRacing]

Wat.

Here it is from our boy Hulst:

I guess the most profitable generation ain't profitable enough eh ?

 

[SSfox]

No matter how many "FUCK YOU" I'll say it will never be enough

I hope Hermen will burn in hell. He and all his executives friends out of touch with PlayStation that have infiltrated the brand.

 

[Hero_Select]

How many 60 person studios are making crazy bank making non Live Service games today? What odds did BluePoint have when they were pitching Sony?

They don't have anything near the size of Star Wars, Avatar or Assassins Creed. Ubisoft didn't do great there. Why would BluePoint fair better?

It's time people start exploring the idea that traditional single player games might be riskier than previously thought.

Not every game needs or should have to sell 20 million copies.

If you keep the budgets low and sales expectations in-check then I don't see why you can't have them work on one of your older IPs.

Imagine if we got a new Sly Cooper game, nothing massive, just a PS2 style platformer. Will it sell 10 million? Probably not, but it shouldn't have to.

 

[Odinnii]

There's no conceivable universe where Fairgame$ turns out to be a success. None. It had a rather tepid response to its reveal, and I just don't think they'll be able to convince anyone to give it a go.

Dude, the game's trailer is at 90%+ dislikes, the studio's founder left, the game's director left and Sony still funding it.
Do not underestimate how retarded they are when it comes to GAAS.

 

[Nocty]

no way! didnt see this coming

 

[Karma_Games]

Herman Hulst when he heard someone at Bluepoint didn't like redheads.

 

[SHAKEZ]

MS and Sony buying studios to close or downsize them...

Buy high, give it for free!

 

[Kacho]

When it's 4th and long, you have to throw it deep.

The offense failed because of what happened on 1st, 2nd, and 3rd down.

You should get banned if Marathon underperforms/flops.

 

[Embearded]

Absolutely disgusting.
They bought them only to shut them down after they made them make something no one asked for.

 

[Moses85]

Guess we never are going to see a demon souls remake port now.

BP Remakes were amazing! That's all that counts!

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Disastrous decision making yet again. Worst console gen ever.

Everyone knows Gen 7 was the worst. No SEGA.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Given what horizon hunters and sons of Sparta are, just imagine what that gow gaas was. No doubt it was some fun cartoony shit to maximize reach.

 

[Hyper_hyper]

I mean, Hulst and Ryan gave them the good ole' Baker family treatment:

This is on Jim Ryan and Hermen Hulst

"let's put a studio known for remakes on a fucking liveshit game then shut them down when they have a tough time with it"

FUCK YOU JIM RYAN

Jim Ryan retired 2 years ago. But Hermen... Yeah. Dumbass

 

[Fabieter]

I guess the most profitable generation ain't profitable enough eh ?

Management has to cover their asses for stupid ass decisions.

 

[LordCBH]

Dude, the game's trailer is at 90%+ dislikes, the studio's founder left, the game's director left and Sony still funding it.
Do not underestimate how retarded they are when it comes to GAAS.

Oh I know there's near 0% chance they cancel it. Can't wait for it to release with Concord numbers, and for Hermen to have a shocked Pikachu look when it absolutely bombs.

 

[avenovah]

Official OST of this thread:

 

[diffusionx]

Jim Ryan retired 2 years ago. But Hermen... Yeah. Dumbass

the pivot to gaas happened under jim ryan and hulst. their last game shipped in 2020

 

[Durin]

What a complete waste

So glad this company keeps throwing away money on GAAS.

 

[Iced Arcade]

wow what the fuck. should have just left them the fuck alone and not have acquired them

 

[Efren is G.O.A.T.]

What kind of sick fuck timeline is this?!

 

[Pedro Motta]

ok now I'm PISSED, this makes absolutely NO FUCKING SENSE!!!

 

[Bridges]

No fucking wayy. Why were they ever making a live service game? Why were they pitching anything instead of being given PS3 games to remaster? What the fuck man this is an Xbox level disaster.

Poor Bluepoint, they've knocked it out of the park every time and get rewarded with this. I hope those devs all end up on their feet.

 

[Grildon Tundy]

Absolute low-blow to the studio and to me as a fan of Bluepoint's remakes.

Holy mismanagement, Batman.

 

[Jesb]

Ok who at bluepoint was banging his woman. This makes no sense.

 

[Bojji]

Motherfuckers... First - they force them to do GaaS shit and now they kill entire studio.

They were healthy before Sony acquired them, best Remaster team in business...

 

[nani17]

 

[HallowedFeast]

I get that this sucks on an emotional level and I feel genuinely bad for those affected at Bluepoint.

The reality is simply that if your studio doesn't produce something that seems valuable to management, you're on borrowed time.

For all the people saying "this is retarded", why exactly did they deserve to stay open more than any other studio in the group ? Because ultimately that's what it boils down to.

I'm not disputing your point, but when have those in authority ever been reliable judges of value? Time after time, they disown the successful and embrace the despised.

 

[Topher]

Can't they do that on their own? Like all they would have to do is start another company call it Bluepointey or some shit and that's it.

Probably. I don't know. Just think it would have been good for Bluepoint to still exist somehow. Probably some corporate greed in wanting to still own the "Bluepoint" name that they will never us again or some shit.

 

[[Sigma]]

The fact that Hermen Hulst is still there is a war crime.

 

[Richard 92]

Hulst is a Illiterate In management

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Not every game needs or should have to sell 20 million copies.

If you keep the budgets low and sales expectations in-check then I don't see why you can't have them work on one of your older IPs.

Imagine if we got a new Sly Cooper game, nothing massive, just a PS2 style platformer. Will it sell 10 million? Probably not, but it shouldn't have to.

I get this, but again we don't have access to the financials. It's likely that EA producer from earlier this year was right..."A 100 million dollar game needs to sell 6 million copies to break even".

BluePoint wasn't a 10 person studio. They were probably going to be making a 100 million dollar game. What obvious formula was laying on the table that was going to produce 10+ million in sales?

Break even is not the goal.

 

[Hyper_hyper]

the pivot to gaas happened under jim ryan and hulst. their last game shipped in 2020

Yes, but GOW online game was canceled early last year. Ask Hermen what happened.

 

[Plague Doctor]

Real talk..

Phil Spencer has been a better exec for Sony than Hermen Hulst. And he doesn't even work there.

 

[bighugeguns]

Stone cold corporate killa.

 

[nikolino840]

Herman Hulst is absolute fucking trash. I hope he fucks off into oblivion, fucking disgusting piece of shit. I can't believe they are wasting Bluepoint like this. Demons Souls, Shadow of the Colossus, all the excellent remasters they did, now just thrown in the bin. Greenlighting garbage like Concord, Fairgames, Hunters Gathering, instead of utilizing their real talent. Playstation and everyone involved in running it can go fuck itself, what a trash brand it has become.

the financial results shows breaking records results both in software and hardware , the next will be the same and the next and the next

 

[SHAKEZ]

The fact that Hermen Hulst is still there is a war crime.

He made line go up, he good worker.

 

[diffusionx]

Yes, but GOW online game was canceled early last year. Ask Hermen what happened.

it was retarded to put them on it in the first place, i could have told you they weren't going to be able to deliver

the cancellation was correcting an idiot mistake that should never have been made

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Amazingly how does bend, media molecule, and Haven survive? On the block next.

 

[SmokSmog]

Another victims of GaaS?

 

[Madonis]

No fucking wayy. Why were they ever making a live service game? Why were they pitching anything instead of being given PS3 games to remaster? What the fuck man this is an Xbox level disaster.

Poor Bluepoint, they've knocked it out of the park every time and get rewarded with this. I hope those devs all end up on their feet.

Life is very unfair.

 

[DeepEnigma]

When it's 4th and long, you have to throw it deep.

The offense failed because of what happened on 1st, 2nd, and 3rd down.

Dude, shut up.

You're a parody at this point. Truth of the matter is, they fucked over Bluepoint with this GaaS chase.

Another GaaS casulty.

The end.

 

[Topher]

When it's 4th and long, you have to throw it deep.

The offense failed because of what happened on 1st, 2nd, and 3rd down.

Probably shouldn't have bought a hockey team to play football, huh?

 

[scydrex]

WTF with Sony. That's a bad choice.