Sony X800D well - reviewed, 4k+HDR TV with low input lag
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Duuude. Why did you cancel the samsung? As someone who owned the 850d and returned it for the samsung, I can assure you the samsung is a better picture no contest.
Not necessarily the cheapest, but the best that gives you HDR10 with wide color gamut, decent HDR brightness, low input lag for a low price.
Yes but it is off by default. Light sensor and Adv. Contrast Enhancer. They change the backlight or screen based on ambient light much like a phone reacts to sunlight or dark rooms or if something on the picture changes rapidly. Plus there are eco options if you want it on. But pretty certain it is off by default.
Make sure you change HDMI inputs 2 and 3 to enhanced. Home>Settings>External Inputs>HDMI Signal Format>Enhanced Format.
Turn on enhanced HDMI signal format" on TV and make sure that you are using HDMI 2.0 cable [it comes with the Pro].
DCI-P3 within the Rex. 2020 color space.
lowhighkang_LHK
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For those wondering, my settings for the 43 inch version of this tv is: (played in a moderately lit room)
HDMI Input 2 (4k / 60 hz)
Game Mode
Auto Picture Off
Brightness 25
Color 50
Light Sensor Off
Contrast 80
Gamma 0
Black Level 50
Black Adjust Off
Hue 0
Contrast Enhancer Off
Motionflow ; Custom
Clearness ; MAX
Smoothness: Off
Temperature: Neutral (the expert 1 it defaults to seems too 'warm' for my tastes)
Live Color Off
Sharpness 50
Reality Creation Off
And all Video Options set to Auto (HDR, HDMI video range, Color Space)
All ps4 pro settings are left on auto as well.
Be sure to turn on ENHANCED HDMI in your settings -> input menu. Otherwise, if you don't - anytime you turn on HDR in a game the resolution will drop from 4k to 1080p.
HDMI Input 2 (4k / 60 hz)
Game Mode
Auto Picture Off
Brightness 25
Color 50
Light Sensor Off
Contrast 80
Gamma 0
Black Level 50
Black Adjust Off
Hue 0
Contrast Enhancer Off
Motionflow ; Custom
Clearness ; MAX
Smoothness: Off
Temperature: Neutral (the expert 1 it defaults to seems too 'warm' for my tastes)
Live Color Off
Sharpness 50
Reality Creation Off
And all Video Options set to Auto (HDR, HDMI video range, Color Space)
All ps4 pro settings are left on auto as well.
Be sure to turn on ENHANCED HDMI in your settings -> input menu. Otherwise, if you don't - anytime you turn on HDR in a game the resolution will drop from 4k to 1080p.
Ashler
Member
Amazon.co.uk has this one on sale: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01IT200FU/
Does anyone know the model?! Can't see if its XD80 or XD70
Does anyone know the model?! Can't see if its XD80 or XD70
Ashler
Member
Thanks! How can you tell its that one? The features seem different in both listings.
Pankratous
Member
I'm
Going from a 46" Samsung F6300 to the 49" 800D. I don't know the input lag values of the Samsung one but rtings.com says 62 ms but not sure if they did it back then on game mode, which is how I play. Do you think the 800D is better or at least on par with the input lag of the F6300? I don't want an upgrade to the Sony one if the lag is worse. Thanks guys
Edit: I know the input lag of the Sony one is in the 30's but not sure about the f6300 since it's older and don't know if rtings used game mode back then
Going from a 46" Samsung F6300 to the 49" 800D. I don't know the input lag values of the Samsung one but rtings.com says 62 ms but not sure if they did it back then on game mode, which is how I play. Do you think the 800D is better or at least on par with the input lag of the F6300? I don't want an upgrade to the Sony one if the lag is worse. Thanks guys
Edit: I know the input lag of the Sony one is in the 30's but not sure about the f6300 since it's older and don't know if rtings used game mode back then
Rtings reviewed this one as well, check it out.
mullet2000
Member
Assuming that it was indeed 62ms in game mode, it will be a big improvement going to 33 ms on the Sony.
But, it's hard to say without a definitive answer on whether that 62ms number is in game mode or not.
My settings are pretty close, although I have the motionflow/clearness off, color at 47, contrast at 95, and my black level about 10 ticks higher, since the room I'm in is relatively bright. I tried the rtings settings as a baseline and found the image way too dark.
AmuroChan
Member
Just saw that the 43" dropped below $600 today on Amazon. 49" is $648. That's the cheapest I've seen yet.
http://a.co/cySDSci
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Yea. Black Friday deal perhaps? But it dropped $150. Tempted to take mine back to BB only to get it again at this price. Thats quite a bit of money haha.
thescience
Member
Just got a software update. Says stability. Anyone else?
Dash_Riprock
Member
So I ordered this beauty with one-day shipping on Amazon yesterday, and around noon tracking changed from "on time" to "Delivery Delay" but it still said it would arrive today. Well 8pm just came and went and now estimated delivery time just changed to "Nov 21-25." Before I call up Amazon and scream them stupid, let me just say that this ONLY happens when shipping is handled by the piss-awful suck hole that is USPS. This never happened back when UPS or even Fed-Ex handled Amazon orders. Hell, even Amazon's own shipping service has never been late with me before.
FFS...
FFS...
DeuceGamer
Member
I ordered the 49" for $649 from Best Buy yesterday. Pretty good deal from what I've seen (especially with BB Points and/or cashback programs) and pretty excited to get it.
I'm still waiting on my Pokémon Steelbook that was overnighted using Fed Ex. Tracking shows it left the facility but Fed Ex hant scanned it in yet. I've had several other orders like that in the last couple months. Can't remember the last time it happened prior to that either. May be Amazon. Something weird is going on cause my other packages weren't all through Fed Ex either.
Edit: it supposedly shipped on Friday
I'm still waiting on my Pokémon Steelbook that was overnighted using Fed Ex. Tracking shows it left the facility but Fed Ex hant scanned it in yet. I've had several other orders like that in the last couple months. Can't remember the last time it happened prior to that either. May be Amazon. Something weird is going on cause my other packages weren't all through Fed Ex either.
Edit: it supposedly shipped on Friday
Kaneda Shotaro
Member
I ordered this two weeks ago (the 49 inch). I emailed amazon asking if I could get the price difference since it just dropped by $150.
Got an email less than an hour later stating they're going to refund me on my debit $159
mine is about a month old. Tempted to take it back only to get this price again. $150 is quite a lot. but i like the panel i got, don't want to risk getting a bad one. hah
Dash_Riprock
Member
I just got off the phone with Amazon and they refunded the $20 extra I paid for next-day shipping. See if you can get the same.
Zok310
Banned
Same here. I cancelled my Amazon order and drove 2 miles to bestbuy and picked up the damn tv last night for $2 more.
The worst part is that I had to call Amazon for the update, they still had it listed as arriving today at 8pm with no tracking number.
SonicAaron
Member
What I noticed on this tv was the PS4 Sound was out of sync if the system was set to linear PCM.
Switched to Dolby stereo and that was all sorted.
Switched to Dolby stereo and that was all sorted.
Installing your backlight?
Rtings settings are for the va panel so I don't know if they make sense for the 49.
Anyone with the 43 inch (VA panel) model of this, how are the viewing angles in your experience?
I want to replace my ageing bedroom TV but anything larger than 43" probably wouldn't fit in the space I have for the TV to go (it's currently a 32" with giant bezels).
I'm a bit worried about the reports of poor viewing angles on VA panels like on the 43". I'll usually be looking straight at the TV of course, but if I do happen to be watching it from an angle, is it terrible?
Finally, has the limitation of "enhanced HDR" inputs to only HDMIs 2 and 3 been a problem? Seems it may make HDMIs 1 and 4 pretty much useless for 4K content if I'm understanding it correctly (I may not be!).
I imagine should I upgrade my AV Receiver in the future I can just use HDMI 3 (with ARC) as input from the AVR, and then gain "enhanced HDMI" on as many HDMI ports as my receiver supports?
I want to replace my ageing bedroom TV but anything larger than 43" probably wouldn't fit in the space I have for the TV to go (it's currently a 32" with giant bezels).
I'm a bit worried about the reports of poor viewing angles on VA panels like on the 43". I'll usually be looking straight at the TV of course, but if I do happen to be watching it from an angle, is it terrible?
Finally, has the limitation of "enhanced HDR" inputs to only HDMIs 2 and 3 been a problem? Seems it may make HDMIs 1 and 4 pretty much useless for 4K content if I'm understanding it correctly (I may not be!).
I imagine should I upgrade my AV Receiver in the future I can just use HDMI 3 (with ARC) as input from the AVR, and then gain "enhanced HDMI" on as many HDMI ports as my receiver supports?
I put an LED backlight, and it has really helped.
I didn't realize those settings were for the VA panel... does anyone have reference for some good settings for the 49" inch?
Atleast I got things like the Enhanced HDMI going and stuff.
You won't see HDR broadcasts anytime soon. So aside from receivers or Xbox or PS4 you wouldn't really need HDMI 2.0a and up which allow HDR. The 4 ports should do 4k 60hz as they are hdmi 2.0 standard, but there is some confusion around whether they are 4K/30hz for HDMI 1 and HDMI 4. Shouldn't be an issue for years though.
As for viewing angles, pretty much most LED televisions on the market are VA or IPS. Most VA have okay viewing until about 25 degrees or more. If you have a large living room with sofas on all sides, and the tv is dead middle those on the sides beyond 30 degree angle would see a more washed out image. But probably 95% of people will view the tv dead on or within 20 degrees angle. Even the KS8000 is VA with limited viewing angle. And no not terrible.
Are the black levels so bad you need bias lighting?
I have a Hisense 55h8c which has excellent blacks and contrast ratio but I am considering swapping it for the 49x800d for the Android tv and wider color gamut.
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
Would you even have to take the TV back? I mean, they know you're just going to return it, and buy it again. So wouldn't they just do a courtesy 150 dollar credit refund.
I also think you'd have to pay a restocking fee if you were to return it and buy it again, somewhat offsetting the 100 dollar price difference.
Question here; is there any way to get content display from my pc/laptop to show up on the TV? Obviously, i could use an HDMI cable, but other than that.?
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
My TV is wall mounted, so it's hard for me to check hdmi port 1.
But I'm sure it won't register a 4k signal because it's 4k/30hz.
I had a samsung monitor that only did HDMI 4k/30hz and the Pro wouldn't display 2160p. It would just do 1080p.
I should call an ask. But big purchases like this that see a big discount on the price should be eligible to get a refund on the amount within a certain time frame.
You should just be able to bring your receipt in for the price match. I've done it before at best buy.
Awesome. I'll do this later today.
Is there a time frame i should look at? Got my TV on 10/02/2016
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Are the European variants of these the KD-43XD8005 and the KD-49XD8005? They are around $700 and $810 here in Sweden. We always get screwed over on electronics, so that's about right I guess. Their MSRPs are around $1080 and $1300, respectively, so yeah.
Great to hear, thanks for the detailed answers! Sounds like VA shouldn't be too much of an issue (which was my main worry), I'll try and view it in John Lewis tomorrow (Richer Sounds only had the 49" IPS to view, but they have a 14 day return policy too, so I'm not too concerned now with that and having seen your post that it doesn't seem a huge deal - especially that the KS8000 was VA also which I didn't realise.
Kinda wish I could stretch to the 49" Samsung but there's just no way it'd fit in the limited space my old 32" TV occupies at the moment without major remodeling of the room. Ah well. 43" XD8088 still looks like a great TV and should be a huge upgrade on what I have at the moment.
Thanks for the advice!
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
Hey, things should be simpler.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchp...rue&iht=y&usc=All+Categories&ks=960&keys=keys
best buy themselves reduce the price on both the 43 inch and 49 inch.
So it should be easier to get a price match after the point of purchase. Best Buy won't allow price matching with competitors AFTER point of purchase, but you can price match if best buy themselves reduce the price of the unit. But you must do so during your return/exchange period.
I am not sure what the return period is for the TV. But i know i did get the 2 year replacement plan. Just in case. I wish they had Chat Customer support so that i could ask them about it right now.
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
I think they do. At the worst you could just call your local store.
I'm heading on over there to get my 50 dollars (lol).
I'll ask them if possible.
That would be awesome. I don't get out of here for another few hours, then have to get home and then go to BB. lol. But if you ask them if i got the 49" on 10/02/2016 can i still get a refund on the price difference.
$50 is still quite a bit of cash. So its nice that you can get it back.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Does the built-in Cast functionality do 4K, or would I still need a CC Ultra for that?
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
That would be awesome. I don't get out of here for another few hours, then have to get home and then go to BB. lol. But if you ask them if i got the 49" on 10/02/2016 can i still get a refund on the price difference.
$50 is still quite a bit of cash. So its nice that you can get it back.
Will do. I'll be sure to tell them you also have the 2 year protection plan too.
Thanks!!
The total I paid for it was $899.98. With the protection. Pretty sure it had the 2 years.
I hope they can refund that $150. That would be great. haha.
If you bought it from Best Buy and you're an Elite or Elite Plus member who qualifies for an extended return policy, there's zero reason not to do a price adjustment. Just call and you can keep your old TV too.
Oh you're definitely sol then.
Bb pm/return period I think is 15 days or 30 days of you are an elite customer.
