Sony's E3 2014 - What are we all expecting?

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and where do people think MS' gaming division is gonna get all this $$ to buy all these 3rd party exclusives? x-D I still think MS gaming division spent the MAJORITY of whatever budget they have/had for those types of things on Titanfall exclusivity (can we even be sure they can afford exclusive marketing or whatever they have/had for TheDivision still?).
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MS always seems to have virtually limitless pockets as far as their budgets go.

Sure, I'll bet it sinks their chances for a profit anytime soon, but MS doesn't even seem to give profit much consideration.

I don't know how the Xbox platform can still be allowed to exist like this with the lack of net money gain surely dismaying the stockholders. However, MS really doesn't seem to care that much. They'd rather just dig themselves into a deeper hole.
 
There won't be any major 3rd party exclusive unless MS is funding it , and if they are it'll be a small or new IP

Suggesting in 2014 that there is any chance of Fallout , Mass Effect , StarWars etc being exclusive are the rumblings of madmen.

Lets not rewrite history here , MS were cheque book happy early in the 7th gen , but it was with timed exclusive DLC , not major 3rd party games.
 
There's no fucking way third parties aren't going to be calling up Sony to get a spot at E3 on their stage. I think the most Microsoft can nab at third parties now is something like DLC exclusivity and by tossing a disproportionate and irrational amount of money at third-party exclusivity which isn't going to happen. I mean shit, Microsoft was the only one who got screwed out of Titanfall XBone/360 exclusivity, Respawn and EA were pretty content I'd imagine. There are more people with PS4's than XBone's right now.

Agree with this and Kagari just said as much too.

God I just wonder who's going to take the bait with that one. I think everyone knows the story about what happened to Bamco when they did that, and I don't think it ended well for them, unless I'm an idiot and I'm misinformed. If anything, it's going to be a Platinum game.

You're not remembering wrong, I remember those interviews too, Baba from the Tales team basically said as much when he was announcing Tales was going all-in on PS3 I believe somewhere around the time between Vesperia PS3 and Graces F (I'd have to go look for the interview again for the timing).
 
MS always seems to have virtually limitless pockets as far as their budgets go.

Sure, I'll bet it sinks their chances for a profit anytime soon, but MS doesn't even seem to give profit much consideration.

I don't know how the Xbox platform can still be allowed to exist like this with the lack of net money gain surely dismaying the stockholders. However, MS really doesn't seem to care that much. They'd rather just dig themselves into a deeper hole.

er... have you been under a rock since like 2001? Things @ MS have changed DRASTICALLY on that front.

the purse strings have been all tied up in knots.
 
MS' deep pocket sure strikes a lot fear and panic
now imagine if Apple ever decides to get serious on gaming

Angry Birds would destroy records, Flappy Bird will destroy lives, and I will turn in my grave after I kill myself from the thought of this stuff happening. Well, more like spin in my grave, and if that happens, tell Yusuf Mehdi to stop fucking with my corpse.
 
Yeah should be Platinum since they work for anyone once they get pay and maybe one or two smaller IPs .



AAA games is what sell consoles and when it comes to variety no one does it as good as Sony .
Sony has more IP in different genres than any other company .

I disagree, I think microsoft has more range and variety to draw upon, and I think a lot of people forget how much pc heritage MS has. I agree AAA games sell consoles, but so does quantity. I dont want to play 2 AAA games for a year, I want 10 quality games a year even at a slightly smaller budget.
 
MS' thread is dead, so everyone migrated here where the party's @. ;-)

I think part of the reason that thread is dead, is the fact that other threads already exist for a handful of MS-related things that have been announced/leaked in the last week or so.

Nobody knows whats going on with Sony, at all, and that makes this whole thing really fucking interesting. All its going to take for me is some really cool Japanese stuff on the Sony side to get me fully-committed, but Im really curious as to how Microsoft plans on getting back into the fight.

This is the most important E3 of the new console generation.
 
I disagree, I think microsoft has more range and variety to draw upon, and I think a lot of people forget how much pc heritage MS has. I agree AAA games sell consoles, but so does quantity. I dont want to play 2 AAA games for a year, I want 10 quality games a year even at a slightly smaller budget.

joke post? What? You expect this from an MS console?
 
I disagree, I think microsoft has more range and variety to draw upon, and I think a lot of people forget how much pc heritage MS has. I agree AAA games sell consoles, but so does quantity. I dont want to play 2 AAA games for a year, I want 10 quality games a year even at a slightly smaller budget.

You're looking at the wrong company if you want depth and variety.
 
I disagree, I think microsoft has more range and variety to draw upon, and I think a lot of people forget how much pc heritage MS has. I agree AAA games sell consoles, but so does quantity. I dont want to play 2 AAA games for a year, I want 10 quality games a year even at a slightly smaller budget.

Man i don't what into list wars but you can't be talking about last few years .
PC heritage don't mean much when they have be using the same IP over and over again last few years
 
Not sure why people bringing Microsoft in here...

I think Sony does have to do a whole lot more though then it did last year to be successfull.
I have a bold prediction that Sony will do something with PS plus in response to Microsoft, like make the free games you can get be permanent with no subscription needed to keep.
 
You know this as inside info Kagari?

I'm sure she has inside info, but you don't need inside info to know that.

Before anyone attributes any stupidity to me that I don't actually mean, when I say "I think Microsoft gave out moneyhats for exclusives", I sure as fuck don't mean major titles. They have neither the money nor do developers care to lose out on an entire side of consumers.

No, Microsoft will win gamers over by showing off little small exclusives. Like, Dragon's Dogma 2? Yeah, that sounds totally believable. Probably wouldn't cost that much to get out of "development hell", and they'd get quite a few of those fans to buy a One for that.

Fallout, though? It's not happening.
 
I disagree, I think microsoft has more range and variety to draw upon, and I think a lot of people forget how much pc heritage MS has. I agree AAA games sell consoles, but so does quantity. I dont want to play 2 AAA games for a year, I want 10 quality games a year even at a slightly smaller budget.
Where's that last 4 years of exclusives chart picture thing? Go find that and get back to us. You have to know that you gave your company names backwards. And I don't think PC heritage means much after they've shut down most (all?) of their PC Studios. You want 10 quality games a year at a smaller budget, you want the Puppeteer and Ni No Kuni type deals.

So guys, why are y'all leaving Japan Studios out of the discussion? What do you think those hundreds of people are working on? Vita games? AAA JRPG? Knack 2?! I'm actually starting to become glad some of y'alls expectations are so low. All the better reactions for the E3 thread.
 
Remember when that guy from Sony Pictures came out last year, talked for 10-15 minutes, and then didn't really announce shit?

I do agree with this, we all know the couple of reasons they did it last year (MS being so TV heavy, while Sony has a ton of strength in TV/Movies, and probably as a demonstration that all parts of Sony will be supporting PS4 with exclusive media, etc.).

But this year, I think anyone given presentation time on stage at Sony's conference really needs to have something to actually announce or show off. They don't have time to waste on vague stuff with no content.
 
Where's that last 4 years of exclusives chart picture thing? Go find that and get back to us. You have to know that you gave your company names backwards. And I don't think PC heritage means much after they've shut down most (all?) of their PC Studios. You want 10 quality games a year at a smaller budget, you want the Puppeteer and Ni No Kuni type deals.

So guys, why are y'all leaving Japan Studios out of the discussion? What do you think those hundreds of people are working on? Vita games? AAA JRPG? Knack 2?! I'm actually starting to become glad some of y'alls expectations are so low. All the better reactions for the E3 thread.

It's funny, expectations were massive, now Sony's not even showing up. Was it because MS said Halo will be at e3 @ 3am the other day? Lol
 
Japan Studios is definitely a wildcard. They apparently had a bunch of games in development and the productivity of the studio is finally on track.

They have like 400 employees, TLG should be almost done (please?), 2 internal Vita games, and 2 co-developed (Soul Sacrifice Delta just came out) Vita games. I'm pretty sure there's at least 1 or 2 new PS4 games in development. I hope they bring back Ape Escape.
 
I disagree, I think microsoft has more range and variety to draw upon, and I think a lot of people forget how much pc heritage MS has. I agree AAA games sell consoles, but so does quantity. I dont want to play 2 AAA games for a year, I want 10 quality games a year even at a slightly smaller budget.

You sound extremely entitled.
 
It's funny, expectations were massive, now Sony's not even showing up. Was it because MS said Halo will be at e3 @ 3am the other day? Lol

Keighley ruined everything! lol

Opinion always goes back and forth. I personally think this will be Sony's biggest E3 ever. All signs point to this. I've had Sony systems since minute 1 and one thing I've learned over these what, near 20 years. When they are quiet like this, it's going to be a good time for us gamers. And Sony is being very, very quiet.

There is just so much potential out there. Some may have to wait to later shows though.
 
Where's that last 4 years of exclusives chart picture thing? Go find that and get back to us. You have to know that you gave your company names backwards. And I don't think PC heritage means much after they've shut down most (all?) of their PC Studios. You want 10 quality games a year at a smaller budget, you want the Puppeteer and Ni No Kuni type deals.

So guys, why are y'all leaving Japan Studios out of the discussion? What do you think those hundreds of people are working on? Vita games? AAA JRPG? Knack 2?! I'm actually starting to become glad some of y'alls expectations are so low. All the better reactions for the E3 thread.

Well said.

Good question about Japan Studios, hopefully they play a bigger role now that they are supposedly restructured.
 
What the? I don't even... Huh. Are you talking to me? What are you talking about? What?

I think he just means in general. Everyone seems to think MS is going to walk E3 for some reason. I suppose on the balance of things these lady few months it's easy to see why.
 
One of CD Projekt Red (I forgot his name) guy apparently is having hard time coming to grips with this. Basically calling resolution difference Sony PR points. The whole thing is fucking weird coming from a guy who works at CD Projekt Red. But I could see MS paying CD Projekt Red to keep Cyberpunk off of PS4. Surely this is an expensive project and CD Projekt Red would like to have some piece of mind. monetarily speaking.

Jeez, yeah that sounds just weird, it seems like they are are all over the place.
 
Jeez, yeah that sounds just weird, it seems like they are are all over the place.

It is weird all right and kind of a red alarm for me when I remembered Cyberpunk was a thing.

Also it helps Cyberpunk 2077 doesnt have a publisher yet and MS is one of the few publishers looking to sign new AAA projects.

Once CDPR still make a PC version I dont think they care much about consoles duking it out.
 
It's funny, expectations were massive, now Sony's not even showing up. Was it because MS said Halo will be at e3 @ 3am the other day? Lol
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It's funny, before Microsoft showed Halo 5 yesterday expectations for Sony were massive. But now they aren't even going to show up?
I shouldn't have to retype your post out to decipher it. Non-native English speaker?
Anyway, it's been like that for about a month now, maybe even further if you count the "Lazy Sony" narrative being thrown around for some reason. As if all of WWS stopped making games because... reasons.
I think he just means in general. Everyone seems to think MS is going to walk E3 for some reason. I suppose on the balance of things these lady few months it's easy to see why.
I just like watching the narrative evolve. It was my favorite part of TwitchPlaysPokemon. This is like, GAFWorriesTooMuch (generalizations blah blah blah)

We have more than half of WWS unaccounted for including their 2 largest studios that consist of hundreds of people each (London and Japan). Even if every studio was only working on one game and half of them wouldn't be ready until 2016, we'd have a minimum of 3 titles that are ready to be announced. 3 new WWS titles is my conservative minimum.
 
Keighley ruined everything! lol

Opinion always goes back and forth. I personally think this will be Sony's biggest E3 ever. All signs point to this. I've had Sony systems since minute 1 and one thing I've learned over these what, near 20 years. When they are quiet like this, it's going to be a good time for us gamers. And Sony is being very, very quiet.

There is just so much potential out there. Some may have to wait to later shows though.

You could be right,

However, there is a very good chance you could be wrong too.

The question is this: Has Sony's recent success gone to its head and made them pompous and arrogant? They've been down that road before. I'd like to think theyhave learned from their past errors. However, I am not 100% convinced. I could easily see Sony relapse back into its old ways and think "Hey! We're ahead! We don't need to be responsive to what MS is doing!".

I truly hope Sony fully appreciates how tenuous their current hold on market leadership is and how easily it can be superseded.

They need to really bring their A game to this E3, because its obvious that MS is going to be highly enterprising this year.
 
If SCE was financially constrained they wouldn't be pumping hundreds of millions into PS Now and Morpheus. The fact is Sony as a whole is doubling down on games because of problems elsewhere in the company. So no, in my opinion there is no need to worry about reduced software output.

Well I hope you're right, because I like the diversity in games that comes from their ww studios.
 
I am very excited for The Last Guardian and Beast as well as several other first and third party games but what I really want to see if Japanese next gen games. The West has clearly embraced PS4 and next gen development while Japan evidently not and when they have its an expected franchise years away :(

Capcom -- I hope they show Dragons Dogma 2 ( no I don't believe it will be X1 exclusive lol). RE7 is fine as well but I prefer the former.

SE -- I don't expect they have anything else other than FFXV and KH3. Silicon studios are perhaps working with them on a next gen game....doubt its showable though.

Konami -- MGSV and thats it. I would love a new Silent Hill but have zero faith that Konami will ever make anything but Metal Gear.

To be honest things get a lot more interesting looking at the smaller devs:

Atlus -- Persona 5 pleeeease. Its been 6 months since the reveal -___-
SEGA -- Valkyria Chronicles 4 is all I ask SEGA.
Level 5 -- L5 have always made an exclusive jrpg for playstation and with Ni No Kuni seemingly being a success I hope they are working on one. WKC was shown at E3 iirc and I would love to see a L5 jrpg for PS4.
Gungho -- Lily Bergamo gameplay?

SCEJ -- with the hints and recent fanfare on Wild Arms, once can only hope SCEJ at the very least is working on a jrpg for PS4. Doubt it will come anytime soon though. Team Siren are now Team Gravity iirc, if not Siren on PS4 0_0

Also SCEJ can really only work on so much:
Gravity Rush 2
Freedom Wars
Over my Dead Body 2
The Last Guardian
Project Beast

Japenese presence at E3 in recent years has been really sad. Last year was a semi-revival due to SE, Konami and Capcom announcing there next gen projects. I hope they don't go back into hiding.
 
Plus renewing that Arc the Lad patent.

PS4 Wild Arms would be amazing, really want that to happen.

It is weird all right and kind of a red alarm for me when I remembered Cyberpunk was a thing.

Also it helps Cyberpunk 2077 doesnt have a publisher yet and MS is one of the few publishers looking to sign new AAA projects.

Once CDPR still make a PC version I dont think they care much about consoles duking it out.

I still don't see it for all the other reasons, plus they'd be forsaking a lot of Europe for a game that should do well in multiple worldwide markets.
 
From Sony, I hope for The Last Guardian & Project Beast announcements.
Not from Sony, but for PS4, a new Fallout. There's a rumor saying that it will be a XOne exclusive, would be such a pity.
 
Level 5 -- L5 have always made an exclusive jrpg for playstation and with Ni No Kuni seemingly being a success I hope they are working on one. WKC was shown at E3 iirc and I would love to see a L5 jrpg for PS4.

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aren't they making just 1 ps4 game
and that turned out to be wonderflick?
 
Sony did something similar to what Microsoft is doing now in I think 2010 where they revealed Killzone 3, Motorstorm Apocalypse and I think LittleBigPlanet 2 a month or two before E3. Their press conference that year was one of their weaker ones recently.
 
Where's that last 4 years of exclusives chart picture thing? Go find that and get back to us. You have to know that you gave your company names backwards. And I don't think PC heritage means much after they've shut down most (all?) of their PC Studios. You want 10 quality games a year at a smaller budget, you want the Puppeteer and Ni No Kuni type deals.

So guys, why are y'all leaving Japan Studios out of the discussion? What do you think those hundreds of people are working on? Vita games? AAA JRPG? Knack 2?! I'm actually starting to become glad some of y'alls expectations are so low. All the better reactions for the E3 thread.

I'm not talking about the last 10 years, I'm talking about what they have in their back pocket, what they can pull out with nostalgia and who has the franchises embedded in deeper in gaming culture (fasa, ensemble, lionhead, so much pc goodness). Dont get me wrong, GT, god of war, and Uncharted have done a great job of helping sony build renown and brand knowledge, but I still see MS having the stronger IP library to draw from.

The problem that i really have with sony is that they never really invest into their franchises as much as they can. I dont see why they dont brand drive-club under the GT franchise (GT:drive clubcfor example) and explore how their investments can cross genre boundaries like we see with forza (asset sharing, technology, new game modes etc). But I digress, this is the more business side of me speaking.

I think Sony has a lot of potential with titles like warhawk and socom, they are under utilized and can offer some really interesting branding potential. A squad based socom rts, like an xcom game, can really offer sony an opportunity to re-introduce the franchise back into gaming lexicon so they can build to a really strong tps/fps in the future. It can give depth to the socom universe, some base concepts to build from(remember halo started out as an rts, there are ideas that can be developed and incubated there). Warhawk too is under utilized, release a 10 dollar arcade dog-fighting game like classic crimson skies, get that dogfighting refined to something amazing, build up an awesome story and release warhawk 2 as a full title with campaign and MP modes.

SCE Japan seems to be doing a much better job, hence I'm not as interested in seeing their games, I know they will be well polished, well considered and supported. But i also think that SCE japan has a lot of unused potential. Why not hand off some of those dusty IP's to a talented western studio and give them some good creative freedom to build on the IP for a western audience? Philosoma, it's vague enough that a studio can run far with it. A title that would make for an awesome western game, hand it off to a team and let them make a sony metroid out of the franchise.

Sony's getting better, but i just sense they're in the shadow of the highly marquee ms and nintendo franchises, and they really need to re-structure their focus, and carve out their own niche.

So like i said, i want to see non aaa games from sony, i want them to really structure and build the future of their franchises for this generation. We know those big block-buster titles are coming, we know uncharted is on its way, we know a god of war and gt will come down the line. They don't need the attention, the press and the fan base will build the hype for sony on their behalf, but where/how is sony fostering their new potential block-busters? MS is trying with titan fall and killer instinct models. Why can't we have a warhawk in the same vein as titan fall?

You sound extremely entitled.

not entitled, just disappointed. My ps4 is sitting here, and there is a depleting library of games for my 360, and i'm getting more and more pressured to pc gaming, even though i'm not a fan of it. I just dont think now is the time to be trying to sell your console on 1-2 games a year because of a myth that AAA games sell consoles, when variety and content will do the job just as well. There's no reason calling all cars and fat princess aren't out on the PS store.
 
Japan Studios is definitely a wildcard. They apparently had a bunch of games in development and the productivity of the studio is finally on track.

They have like 400 employees, TLG should be almost done (please?), 2 internal Vita games, and 2 co-developed (Soul Sacrifice Delta just came out) Vita games. I'm pretty sure there's at least 1 or 2 new PS4 games in development. I hope they bring back Ape Escape.

Yes, I hope they have sorted out the mess they were last gen. While I would love to see new games from them for the PS4, TLG by itself will suffice.
 
From Sony, I hope for The Last Guardian & Project Beast announcements.
Not from Sony, but for PS4, a new Fallout. There's a rumor saying that it will be a XOne exclusive, would be such a pity.

Lol after that ESO bomb, people actually think its gonna be xb1 exclusive?

Plus Todd Howard just said to PCgames.de. "Our new game is coming to next gen consoles and pc."
 
I really really hope they show some more of Persona 5, Ni No Kuni 2 as well and localization of either Yakuza 5 or Ishin, also Uncharted and thats everything I care about. I dream of a new MAG but thats not going to happen.
 
aren't they making just 1 ps4 game
and that turned out to be wonderflick?

No. Where have they said they are only making one PS4 game.

"It's still in the planning stages, but we are also working on a PlayStation 4 title. We might be able to announce it soon.

"PlayStation 4 is next-gen hardware built with the network in mind, so more than graphics performance and specs, we need to think about communication - how to use the network features."

The only reason I don't think its Wonderflick is the bolded.
 
I really really hope they show some more of Persona 5, Ni No Kuni 2 as well and localization of either Yakuza 5 or Ishin, also Uncharted and thats everything I care about. I dream of a new MAG but thats not going to happen.

So much this! I want Persona 5 on stage or new trailer!
And about MAG or Warhawk, I think Planetside 2 might be the answer for that?
 
er... have you been under a rock since like 2001? Things @ MS have changed DRASTICALLY on that front.

the purse strings have been all tied up in knots.

Bro!

They've been spending millions and millions on bundles, price drops, advertising, game deals,etc. just this early into the generation.

Yes, they can only go so far. However, that distance is quite prodigious.
 
Yes, I hope they have sorted out the mess they were last gen. While I would love to see new games from them for the PS4, TLG by itself will suffice.

I think you'd be more likely to see new games than TLG, at this point.

Love to be proven wrong, but my faith has been shattered.
 
Lol after that ESO bomb, people actually think its gonna be xb1 exclusive? I got a bridge to sell you. Plus Todd Howard just said to PCgamer.de. "Our new game is coming to next gen consoles and pc."

Well, I was kinda scared, since I'm planning to get a 4 and Fallout is one of my favourite brands.
Good to know it has been confirmed as crossplatform (if its Fallout, of course).
 
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