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Flying Wonkey
Member
The second tier players will quit, and that's what fuels a competitive scene. Especially if this happens around the time SFvsTK comes out.
People really hate losing to stuff they can't do themselves. People generally don't mind losing to stuff they feel like they can do. This is why I think old-style GI should have been kept- folks could do that, at least some. (new meter-costing GI was a good addition though)
Soulscribe
Member
This game refuses to let me unlock Algol.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Did you try the quick battle method?
Set filter for:
region: europe
skill: moderate
opponent: new first
I did it this way. I didn't get him as fast as others, and had to clear maybe 20 opponents out before he showed up in the search. But he did show up.
I really disagree, with all of that. If that were the case, I'd be worried about KoF, since HD combos "look" more intimidating than JGs ever could. Or 1-frame links in SF4, Juggles in Tekken. Parries in 3s.
I really disagree with anybody who thinks SxT would take away competitive players from SC5. But I think that game looks like garbage on CFJ levels.
Terareflection
Member
This is true. Perhaps I should have said simply learning how to get up properly in Tekken, as that's a more common complaint.
People can activate HD mode into Neomax, or at least Dream Cancel though. They can do something. 1f links in SF4 could be lucked into, as could 3S parries. Juggles in tekken, I think The Tekken team came up with a genius idea in Bound: they pretty much split combos into two parts, making it easier to learn.
With JG, I think people realize that it's just one of those things that they can't really do well. You can't luck into it. People are ok with mechanics they can luck into, when it becomes an all-or-nothing, they get depressed. Note: I'm not talking about your top tier players, I'm talking about the pot monsters that drive the competitive scene. You need losers for the winners to win something.
That said, I think it's possible JG never takes off at high-level. It's high-risk, and good players will throw enough (I don't think SC players are used to throws being good yet) and use delay enough that I suspect the risk-reward will potentially keep JG super-rare. I'd feel more confident about this is the movelists were larger though, and I still think it's a bad mechanic.
BTW, I think SFvsTK is going to be shit also, but it will do well. The sponsored players are going to be forced into playing it by their sponsors, and I suspect that will drive others into joining suit, even if many aren't enthused themselves.
The Soul community will keep SC5 alive though, just like they did with 4.
I don't like the direction Ono and co. is taking the series. Nothing I've seen of the game (or played, though the game has changed so much playing it makes that moot) makes me think I'll like it. I hate SF4, and I'm sure I'll dislike SxT.
I'll give it a try, though. I'd love to be wrong.
I hate SF4 more than any fighting game this gen. I'm hoping the combo system just feels good.
DR2K
Banned
Who are you using?
Wow, I really suck at this game, so much. It's kind of frustrating and embarrassing actually. ZWEI facing Nightmare in story mode is kicking my arse. I love the feel of the game though, the fighting is great. I do wish there was more SP stuff since I suck online, and don't have any friends that like fighters.
I love the feel of the game though, the fighting is great. I do wish there was more SP stuff since I suck online, and don't have any friends that like fighters.Yes.
No.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
It's definitely going to appear at tournies sooner or later. The mechanic's too powerful to blow off. It's less risky than a GI was, and it nets you more than a null set possible mixup.
It's also viable online.
It's not that hard really. Just takes some practice. Once you have a sense of a good chunk of the game's string's internalized, a ton of basic stuff is going to be leaving you at disadvantage.
AzureSkies
Member
Coming from someone who really loved Soul Calibur IV and played it A LOT. Would it be worth picking up the series now or waiting for the price to lower down before hand?
I'm also interested in picking up Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 as one of my brothers owns the original but he lives in England and I've moved to Canada now.
I'm also interested in picking up Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 as one of my brothers owns the original but he lives in England and I've moved to Canada now.
Vustadumas
Banned
Literally right as my swing is about to connect, he critical edges, and that cancels my attack? Really? Man, I just miss old school SC :/
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
Hard to believe the gem system is not exploitable.
SolarKnight
Member
What CE was it? You should remember that some of them GI and be careful around those.
I think you'll see lower prices quickly. Game is worth it, IF you like online play.
UMVC3, skip it. Better options out there, both now and coming.
It might be, but it's going to have to prove it. The days when I have to buy a fighter because it's a fighter and I don't have a good one ended with KOF. Capcom's going to have to win me back as a customer, and I think SF4 series is mediocre.
I'll spell it out: for this game to get my attention, it's going to have to have online as good as SC5, and get rid of 1f links and an overemphasis on option selects without adding something I dislike even more. I don't believe Ono is capable of this.
Gonna leave this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkMy_9DzZZ0
akidnamededdy
Banned
You have to be at least level 14 (I believe...could be one or two lower, though I was level 17 when I did it) and you have to win three matches in a row before he'll even show up in searches.
The opponents whose names were in green instead of white were a bit easier, it seemed.
There was a discussion on the Jaxeldome stream this weekend regarding how Pyrrha might be absolute S-Tier, month 2 in the game anyway, due to her wake-up pressure (and her 66B). She had the french worried enough for Saitoh to make this video: Pyrrha Must Die.
Alongside the requirements of Lv13+, Region: Europe, Difficulty: Intermediate and with a 3-win streak against other Quick Battle AI (you can just beat three E5s if you want, then start spamming search), be sure not to make the same mistake I did --- don't look for Algol. The character you need to fight is called 'TERAMOS'.
Also, the difference between white and green names is simply whether you've bested them before I think.
Are you on XBL? It was dead after the first weekend.... was hoping this would last until SFxTK and it didn't even last a week here.
3s was never that popular, as far the SF games went.
Setting that aside, the juggles, 1 frame links and HD combos don't change the actual chances to hit someone. It's basically just doing 10% less damage on punish.
JGs can punish double hit ex attacks (which are supposed to give advantage on block) and possibly some basic strings. That's significantly more than a few points of damage on punish.
It's going to be the largest gap between the upper mid and top players since roll canceling. It'll be interesting to see how jg pans out in a few months.
AlphaDragoon
Member
Yeah, Alpha Pat is one of the best characters, if not THE best character in the game. The tradeoff for his ridiculous power is an extremely high level of execution to use him correctly. Woahhzzz basically wrecked everyone at a tourney yesterday with him.
Kiryogi, my brother's on ATM, I'm sure he'd play. PSN ID is InfiniDragon615.
I was on, you weren't in chat channel.
The netcode in this game confuses me. You can have good connections with people but disconnect.
was? are you still? XD was lazy to log on and wanted to check if anyone was on before hand before loading up
AzureSkies
Member
I'm interested in playing it, absolutely loved the online play in 4 despite how bad the latency could be and if it's close or better than Tekken 6 after-patch I'll be happy.
I absolutely loved the gameplay of Marvel vs. Capcom 3 but I couldn't stand Street Fighter IV in the slightest so I'm still interested in picking up UMVC3.
It's vastly better. I'd say it's as good as VF (another game you might like this summer)
As for the disconnects, I think you can force a disconnect in this game by mashing button really hard, (or at least destabilize the connection) just like you could in T6.
If someone's lagging, I've noticed I can set a couple of empty buttons to turbo and 9 times out of 10 the connection breaks apart.
I can get on if you want. least for a bit
Made it to D5. 80% win ratio in Ranked. Doesn't mean squat considering I steamrolled 20 people with just Pyrrha's 236 AA. I found more challenging players in Player Match.
Also, Tira piss me off so much. It is extremely difficult to block Tira's stuff online on reaction like other characters. I'm actually testing this in training with latency option set to on (so I can practice blocking Tira's stuff online) and its borderline impossible to block her 3B and some of her meatier moves once you see it.
Also, Tira piss me off so much. It is extremely difficult to block Tira's stuff online on reaction like other characters. I'm actually testing this in training with latency option set to on (so I can practice blocking Tira's stuff online) and its borderline impossible to block her 3B and some of her meatier moves once you see it.
Alstein, I really feel like you are projecting your own preferences about game mechanics onto "players" overall - Just Guard is not THAT hard of a mechanic in the first place, and with or without the scrubs who are only in the game as long as they think that they can do anything the pros can, just slightly worse, there will be enough dedicated players for any tournament.
The whole assumption that if you lose to what is a well timed parry, then you quit being competitive is hilarious to me.
But then again, I am also going to buy SFxT day1, so maybe I am just some fighter-junkie with no self-respect
The whole assumption that if you lose to what is a well timed parry, then you quit being competitive is hilarious to me.
But then again, I am also going to buy SFxT day1, so maybe I am just some fighter-junkie with no self-respect
And it will be amazing, while all the haters will get stuck on the "..oh, but it has gems, shiiit" phase...
michaelius
Banned
Can someone advice me how to best punish laying enemies using Natsu ?
Try 1A.
1A or if you think you can manage it in time, use one of her cannons.
How's the online on 360 in this? I bought it on a whim since I have fond memories of SC1 on the Dreamcast, and I'm kind of enjoying it but I think I need some human opponents to get properly excited about it.
I've got a 12-month Gold sub card that I'm saving until the last minute... is it worth cracking open for SCV?
I've got a 12-month Gold sub card that I'm saving until the last minute... is it worth cracking open for SCV?
Absolutely. Online is fantastic. Do not get fooled by Ranked Play though, if you have any kind of proper mindset, you will wreck in there. Go for player matches.
AlphaDragoon
Member
GG to kiryogi and Ferrio (I was the Alpha Pat on my brother InfiniDragon's games with you both). Connection was funky with us Ferrio, sorry about that. You've got a good Astaroth, fun matches.
Nice Leixia on kiryogi's part, too. Was fun.
Nice Leixia on kiryogi's part, too. Was fun.
InfiniDragon
Member
Yeah, fun matches kiryogi and Ferrio. I'll use Sieg more next time since you were wanting some more practice against him.
Sir Garbageman
Member
Played a couple of hours throughout the day yesterday (ranked and coliseum) and was pleasantly surprised with the variety of characters I faced. Ran into a few Ivy's, Viola's, ZWEI's, Asta's, Aeon's, etc on top of the usual common characters. A surprising amount of Lexia's for whatever reason as well. Good times.
GGs to both of you bros.
Yes, Sieg experience would be great, but I was also very appreciative of the Alpha Pat as well. Actually, would like to face Pyrrha more too lol. And no love for my Omega? D: Haha, I know Leixia is my strongest main.
And lol Ferrio, using Astaroth now D:
Here are 4 videos from tonight. 2 wins and 2 losses! Wish it kept track of more than the last 10 XD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MrUw9TLeiI&context=C3a902faADOEgsToPDskJTMHewqauK65vBKn-xJuIA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ6BNpJ2UKM&context=C38e46c9ADOEgsToPDskJ7tWsaLbjLbD5aXeRWqiqB
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64i7kvlWOwk&context=C34eb624ADOEgsToPDskLqPkoIKIdN1g3fsb3CZFp6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezPfDxYFIY4&context=C323f17aADOEgsToPDskLb8VCSjUwmFiuGgb3v8Y36
Yes, Sieg experience would be great, but I was also very appreciative of the Alpha Pat as well. Actually, would like to face Pyrrha more too lol. And no love for my Omega? D: Haha, I know Leixia is my strongest main.
And lol Ferrio, using Astaroth now D:
Here are 4 videos from tonight. 2 wins and 2 losses! Wish it kept track of more than the last 10 XD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MrUw9TLeiI&context=C3a902faADOEgsToPDskJTMHewqauK65vBKn-xJuIA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ6BNpJ2UKM&context=C38e46c9ADOEgsToPDskJ7tWsaLbjLbD5aXeRWqiqB
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64i7kvlWOwk&context=C34eb624ADOEgsToPDskLqPkoIKIdN1g3fsb3CZFp6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezPfDxYFIY4&context=C323f17aADOEgsToPDskLb8VCSjUwmFiuGgb3v8Y36
You seemed impressed by her assets.
Ya I started Ast since everytime I went up against one I got my ass handed to me. Needed to figure out how he works.