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Wow. Looking back, I think it was the worst episode of Space Dandy yet... And I still enjoyed it! I mean, yeah, it did feel ping pong-y with concepts that should have definitely been elaborated on (Almost thought this episode was just going to be about Honey vs. Gel based on the opening, but there were still some humorous moments in there, especially with the weird laugh-track itself being present just because.
Also, I'm with everyone else; why does Meow remember the Zombie episode? Negative Continuity/Many Worlds Interpretation definitely set in with that episode, seeing how
. Either it's more of them just having fun ignoring continuity, or the show's continuity itself just got a lot weirder.
Also, I'm with everyone else; why does Meow remember the Zombie episode? Negative Continuity/Many Worlds Interpretation definitely set in with that episode, seeing how
literally everyone in the universe died, irrevocably becoming zombies and thus eventually attaining universal peace
Shimizu is a pretty good animator who doesn't do a lot of direction, so he's not incredibly experienced. Having said that though, I don't think the problem with the content of the episodes is entirely his fault. Some of the more divisive episodes of Dandy have been written by Keiko Nobumoto. She's a very, very talented writer who hasn't really worked much in like a decade. She wrote episode 8 (Lonely Pooch), episode 15 (River of Time), and episode 19 (Cloudian) so far. She's writing one more upcoming episode as well (22).
The way I see it, she been trying to cramp as many ideas as possible in each of her scripts for Dandy, but being someone who doesn't generally write comedy or short one-off random stuff, there's a struggle there to find the right tone. This struggle is compounded by the fact that her episodes all tend to be paired up with less experienced or talented directors who might find it hard bring out the best in the scripts into visual form.
I liked both ep8 and ep15 though, and I think I've talked about why I think they work and what they really bring to the series in terms of being unique episodes. Unfortunately I can't say the same for ep19. It just plain sucked for me. It was more annoying than funny, and a slog to get through. The ideas are interesting and would certainly have worked in a better framework but as it is, this story didn't work at all.
One of the interesting things to note about her episodes is that they all contain the theme of dualism. With her desire to pack as much as possible in each script, there really are two complete stories in each one. Episode 8 was both a What If story about finding Laika on some planet in deep space, alone and dying, and also a story about a dying mechanical planet held together by the last remaining inhabitants. The "connection" between the two stories being the joke that flea beings could be living on a dog. Episode 15 was about a lonely alien who collected smiles and had a creepy obsession with Dandy, but it was also about the River of Time, and what it would be like to see the Pororoca Phenomenon occur in it.
Episode 19 is clearly a story built around both the idea of a Cloudian and what it would mean to be one, while also trying to weave that concept around telling a story about both Scarlet and Honey and what they're like off-duty. I think if a much better director worked on this episode, it might have turned into a much better and more interesting character-centric piece. I don't know whose idea the laugh track was, but that really didn't help at all.
I'm pretty hopeful for Nobumoto's final upcoming episode though. It's storyboarded by Yoshitomo Yonetani, who is a real master at directing comedy. The episode director is Masato Miyoshi, who is pretty experienced unit director as well. The animation director is the most exciting thing about the episode though - Yoshimichi Kameda is finally going to make his mark on Dandy. Storywise from what I can tell from the title and the magazine synopsis, it's going to be about a once in a century epic drunken street dance celebration on Planet Grease inspired by the Awa Odori festival in Japan.
Episode 19
This is definitely the worst episode of the second half so far, down near the lows of the early episodes. There are scattered ideas that I like in it, like the relationship between Honey and Dr. Gel, but it's so all over the place. The different story threads don't come together cleanly. And the laugh track is so awkwardly executed that it drags nearly every joke in the episode down just for a throwaway fourth-wall gag.
After the sick fight scene in episode 2, I've been waiting for a good Scarlet episode, and this wasn't it.
This is definitely the worst episode of the second half so far, down near the lows of the early episodes. There are scattered ideas that I like in it, like the relationship between Honey and Dr. Gel, but it's so all over the place. The different story threads don't come together cleanly. And the laugh track is so awkwardly executed that it drags nearly every joke in the episode down just for a throwaway fourth-wall gag.
After the sick fight scene in episode 2, I've been waiting for a good Scarlet episode, and this wasn't it.
Antilurker77
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BBP... Blockhead, Bonehead, Pinhead
Also Baka, Bonkura, Ponkotsu haha
Thanks for the insight. I certainly wouldn't place the fault squarely on the director, but rather that it seemed to agitate the problems already present with the script.Shimizu is a pretty good animator who doesn't do a lot of direction, so he's not incredibly experienced. Having said that though, I don't think the problem with the content of the episodes is entirely his fault. Some of the more divisive episodes of Dandy have been written by Keiko Nobumoto. She's a very, very talented writer who hasn't really worked much in like a decade. She wrote episode 8 (Lonely Pooch), episode 15 (River of Time), and episode 19 (Cloudian) so far. She's writing one more upcoming episode as well (22).
The way I see it, she been trying to cramp as many ideas as possible in each of her scripts for Dandy, but being someone who doesn't generally write comedy or short one-off random stuff, there's a struggle there to find the right tone. This struggle is compounded by the fact that her episodes all tend to be paired up with less experienced or talented directors who might find it hard bring out the best in the scripts into visual form.
I liked both ep8 and ep15 though, and I think I've talked about why I think they work and what they really bring to the series in terms of being unique episodes. Unfortunately I can't say the same for ep19. It just plain sucked for me. It was more annoying than funny, and a slog to get through. The ideas are interesting and would certainly have worked in a better framework but as it is, this story didn't work at all.
One of the interesting things to note about her episodes is that they all contain the theme of dualism. With her desire to pack as much as possible in each script, there really are two complete stories in each one. Episode 8 was both a What If story about finding Laika on some planet in deep space, alone and dying, and also a story about a dying mechanical planet held together by the last remaining inhabitants. The "connection" between the two stories being the joke that flea beings could be living on a dog. Episode 15 was about a lonely alien who collected smiles and had a creepy obsession with Dandy, but it was also about the River of Time, and what it would be like to see the Pororoca Phenomenon occur in it.
Episode 19 is clearly a story built around both the idea of a Cloudian and what it would mean to be one, while also trying to weave that concept around telling a story about both Scarlet and Honey and what they're like off-duty. I think if a much better director worked on this episode, it might have turned into a much better and more interesting character-centric piece. I don't know whose idea the laugh track was, but that really didn't help at all.
I'm pretty hopeful for Nobumoto's final upcoming episode though. It's storyboarded by Yoshitomo Yonetani, who is a real master at directing comedy. The episode director is Masato Miyoshi, who is pretty experienced unit director as well. The animation director is the most exciting thing about the episode though - Yoshimichi Kameda is finally going to make his mark on Dandy. Storywise from what I can tell from the title and the magazine synopsis, it's going to be about a once in a century epic drunken street dance celebration on Planet Grease inspired by the Awa Odori festival in Japan.
Honey is half cloudian, she was just fucking with Dr. Gel
The Japanese Space Dandy boxset artwork is pretty cool:
There isn't a straight-on shot of this cover around, is there? I want to avatarize Devo Meow.
I was using the non-romantic meaning of relationship.
But you have the best avatar on the site!
Also, looking back, does anyone think Honey being
half-Cloudian
Oh, and in this latest episode QT remembers when they all turned to zombies. Pretty funny.
Gotcha.
Gotcha.
Yeah, she's been really great for the series. Her episodes have been hysterical sans maybe episode 3.
Started watching this. Really like it so far. Episode 5 and 9....those feels ;___; Music is great too.
http://vimeo.com/90271441
<3 <3 <3
http://vimeo.com/90271441
<3 <3 <3
Doctor Decimate
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worth noting that on August 30, Toonami will play Space Dandy an hour earlier at 11:30 instead of 12:30
Chezzymann
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I loved episode 20. The part where dandy starts emprovizing at the concert was hilarious.
After dandy started humming "viva all" in the bathroom I was wanting the band to play that song the whole episode
The manga stylizations were great.
RadioHeadAche
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Such an improvement over last week's episode.
The next one looks interesting. I hope it's good.
The next one looks interesting. I hope it's good.
Episode 20
That was pretty good. It was a fun episode just watching Dandy having another moron like himself to interact with. Not as crazy as I expected considering it was a story about Dandy forming a rock band with the head of the Jaicro Empire, but the explosive ending was so typical of Dandy. The use of stylish stills and creative coloring was pretty effective at keeping the momentum without having full blown performance animation until the final event. It also made the episode look pretty unique. Huge improvement over the stinker last week.
Next week's episode looks really interesting visually. It'll be directed by Yasuhiro Nakura, an animator/artist who doesn't really do much direction but is a huge fan of Kenji Miyazawa's works. It'll be cool if there's an influence there. The background art design will be by Santiago Montiel, who was recently the art director for the Production IG film Giovanni's Island, which incidentally also had heavy influences from Night on the Galactic Railroad - a Kenji Miyazawa classic. Watanabe is writing the script himself for the episode too.
That was pretty good. It was a fun episode just watching Dandy having another moron like himself to interact with. Not as crazy as I expected considering it was a story about Dandy forming a rock band with the head of the Jaicro Empire, but the explosive ending was so typical of Dandy. The use of stylish stills and creative coloring was pretty effective at keeping the momentum without having full blown performance animation until the final event. It also made the episode look pretty unique. Huge improvement over the stinker last week.
Next week's episode looks really interesting visually. It'll be directed by Yasuhiro Nakura, an animator/artist who doesn't really do much direction but is a huge fan of Kenji Miyazawa's works. It'll be cool if there's an influence there. The background art design will be by Santiago Montiel, who was recently the art director for the Production IG film Giovanni's Island, which incidentally also had heavy influences from Night on the Galactic Railroad - a Kenji Miyazawa classic. Watanabe is writing the script himself for the episode too.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
dem Jojo poses
Blargonaut
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I just finished catching up with Season 2, I'm enjoying it so far; did anyone else notice a huge Ghibli vibe from Episode 18? The entire episode, the story, the kid, the art style felt like a huge Ghibli tribute to me-
See, it looked it could be straight from a Ghibli film
Also, I made a couple of GIFs using GIFcam, enjoy Dandy-GAF:
And, the music that plays in Boobies is HYPE. Loving the soundtrack \m/
See, it looked it could be straight from a Ghibli film
Also, I made a couple of GIFs using GIFcam, enjoy Dandy-GAF:
And, the music that plays in Boobies is HYPE. Loving the soundtrack \m/
Veritigo_X
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I actually just grabbed Dandy for my avatar, but the quality isn't the best. Here's one of Meow for you:
Veritigo_X
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This version is sped up a bit to avoid copyright I believe. The version on the soundtrack sounds much better.
I actually just grabbed Dandy for my avatar, but the quality isn't the best. Here's one of Meow for you:
Hey, thanks.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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Their spin on being not quite like Behind the Music. I didn't think all the drop kicking would lead to the band name, The Dropkicks, but it worked out well anyway.
meltingparappa
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I going back and forth if it was a giant Moebius tribute, too the legendary French comic artist.
Then again, you get into how much of Moebius's DNA is intertwined in Miyazaki's works and it gets hazy from there.
I don't really think there's much of an actual Ghibli influence in episode 18. Oshiyama did work on some recent Ghibli films as an animator though. Most of the style seems inspired by stuff older than Ghibli itself - the sort of stuff you'll find in Japanese folklore illustrations and European graphic novels. Especially in the use of color. Ghibli stuff tend to be far more detailed and elaborate, with a richer color tone. Here it uses a deliberately minimalist style with a more limited color palette to convey the sense of a quiet laid back setting.
Blargonaut
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Now that you mention it, it does sound a bit faster
It actually does have more of a Moebius look to it because of the muted colours; I was more familiar with Ghibli stuff so my brain made that connection first...
True, there was a definitely traditional feel from the art style. One of the main reasons my mind jumped to Ghibli was mainly because of the kid Esseme (sp?); he just felt like a Ghibli kid to me with the way he laughed, cried, his expressions. The opening crawl showing off the greenery of the forests and hills reminded me of Princess Mononoke's and Totoro's backgrounds too. You're right, though; the way the ocean and waves were drawn were definitely like something older, like a simplified Japanese woodblock print or Grecian vase art.
Also, another GIF-Cam dump, enjoy!~
(NSFW, I guess)
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Jigolo
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http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/VTCL-60368
Is this the only place to get the OST as of right now? (shit's expensive)
https://soundcloud.com/buizel-wolf/space-dandy-music-ep-5-dandy (sogood)
Is this the only place to get the OST as of right now? (shit's expensive)
https://soundcloud.com/buizel-wolf/space-dandy-music-ep-5-dandy (sogood)
Man really best ost from the series.
Also todays episode i like it. I don't know why but i am loving this show. mostly because how unexpected everything is
Update: The official site has posted a look at the episode's designs. The art setting and guest designs are all by Nakura himself, while Santiago drew the actual background art boards: http://www.space-dandy.com/episode/21/
Commercial for the next episode.
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Dandy's look in this episode is awesome.. could it be back story related?
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