Naked Snake
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And in a muslim country/society. No wonder I rarely leave my front door.
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Special edition of Charlie Hebdo will feauture caricatures of Mohammed
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And in a muslim country/society. No wonder I rarely leave my front door.
God damn i'm laughing my ass off ... But again i'm probably going to hell if there is a hell.
I knew there had to be some hidden childish twist. When i first saw the cover all i could see was the very tasteful drawing and i silently claped.
It's still a very nice cover, and i don't see how someone can get offended by it. They are showing that the prophet is sad that some lunatics killed people in his name. That he's for love and peace and not for violence and revenge. How is that offensive ?
I salute the cartoonist. Bien joué Luz.
Drawing at straws?
And even if they intended a penis shape so what?
Yeah harassment and persecution sucks but that's not this magazine's fault.
I'd say that having another drawing of Mohammed is the only way to show that you aren't going to give in since, that is the reason why everything happened. There are no other ways to show they weren't giving in to terrorism and it is surprisingly tame portrayal of Mohammed compared to their other drawings.
I already liked you from what you said in the other Charlie Hebdo threads.
Now i'm kind of starting to admire you.
See you in hell i guess
Yes they are. 1.000.000 copies instead of 60.000 too. Smug magazine keeping being smug isn´t surprising though.
Guess tackling important social and global issues was too much to process after the tragedy and they chose for brainless cashing instead.
We don´t know shit yet though, maybe they´ll surprise.
Pushing back against these nutjobs and printing more is exactly how a newspaper can tackle this issue.
Really?
You're gonna say they're wrong to focus on the cause of many of their co-workers and friends murders?
Cause -> Action -> Result
They're only focusing on the actions and results, as is the rest of the media.
Damn, Hebdo has gone too far this time.
You've been shitting on their graves for days ...
They're not cashing in on what's happened. They were near bankrupt. They lost 12 people. They weren't rich at all.
In fact they had to cut their salaries numerous times in order to save the journal from going bankrupt. They left wives and children with not much of a heritage. So yeah, this might be their " Chant du cygne ", their " swansong ", and there's a big demand around the world. So why not print millions of copies so everyone can join in ? Why not allow the spirit of their beloved journal, one they fought so hard to keep alive, enter as many households as possible around the world ? Why not give a chance to those who want to honor them to snatch a copy, frame it and put it over the mantelpiece even if it's just for a day ?
ShemhazaiX
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How is it drawing at straws? It's highly unlikely (based on their usual fare) that it wasn't intended.
And if you can't see how doing something that decreases extremism and promotes goodwill whilst simultaneously disarms the violent party is better than being pigheaded and provocative, then I guess we have differing philosophies.
What's with all these idiots who think journalism I'd cashing? Should ditch the whole thing and live in boxes.
Naked Snake
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I really don't think there is a "hidden penis" in the drawing. They have used this character design for Muhammad in the past.
Seems like the cover is tackling a big part of the cause.
And yes drawing Mohammed was clearly a big part of the cause.
According to Le Figaro :
- A total of 3,000,000 copies will be printed, spread on several days.
- Demand is big from abroad (~ 20 countries) : MLP, the newspaper distribution company, was asked for more than 300,000 copies (they probably won't be able to get that amount, at least in the first days). Charlie Hebdo usually sells 4,000 copies outside of France.
- For now it is confirmed that 7 countries will get some copies : Switzerland, Belgium, Spain, Portugal, Canada (mostly in Montréal and Québec, but also some in Vancouver and Toronto), UK and US.
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The Everyman
are you saying god doesnt exist?
ElectricKaibutsu
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Cashing in? People want to buy a copy. There's nothing wrong with meeting demand.
Like I said even if was intended so what?
I'd say not drawing him would embolden extremists because they would be able to claim a victory.
If these drawings are enough to provoke people then I'd say those people have a problem and they need to learn how to deal with being offended.
That's grounds for termination
vpance
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Middle ground is not the truth, I get it. That also explains human history for the last 2000 years.
Coreda
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They actually managed to sneak in a double dong.
stufte
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What's gross?
Naked Snake
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Stereogatari
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The flames represent holy light (Nur) and are reserved for depictions of prophets.
I actually find Turkish/Persian/Indian miniature paintings of Islamic mythology aesthetically fascinating. Just like with other religious art (Renaissance Christian art or Ancient Greek art) it's possible to appreciate them as an Atheist.
DONGCEPTION
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That looks stunningI'll put this here as a reminder and this photo is just way too beautiful and everyone should see it
The cause is socio-economic issues, fueled with extra with global military/political hazards.
The drawings as are the murder were mere actions that resulted from the current situation.
Again, why look deeper right. Let's just focus on freedom of speech, the nearly bankrupt magazine on life support etc. etc.
Really ironic that without the murder, Charlie Hebdo would die off quickly anyway. It was a magazine on it's way out, grasping at straws.
The magazine might have been on its way out, but that type of humor was not. Nothing in sacred, and in France, we like to make sure it stays that way.
Naked Snake
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All "causes" besides the cartoons being drawn are just speculation. They killers clearly stated their reasons why they did it and the magazine had been attacked before for the same reason.
ShemhazaiX
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I've given loads of arguments as to why it's in poor judgment / taste. Did you even read my original post? I gave an example of what I would have done which definitely wouldn't have had terrorists claiming a "Victory" whilst also not pissing off a minority who traditionally have have limited exposure to satire. As we're just going round in circles now, I'm just going to drop this since it's like, 0:40 here and I'm knackered.
You have to be blind to not realize that the religious beliefs in and of themselves are the core reason this happened. Economies and politics of Arab nations are ornaments of the extremist tree.
DiipuSurotu
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I made a joke but I actually really like this kind of art too, as well as the whole Islamic mythology. (I love reading about all sorts of mythologies and I wish pop culture and fantasy works would diversify a bit more, instead of focusing only on the usual Greek and Norse myths.)
Kibbles
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ugh, those comments... :/
Doesn't surprise me, everyone who says Jesuis Charlie is supposedly racist and islamophobic according to everyone on tumblr (lol)
Miles Quaritch
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ugh, those comments... :/
Haven't they done Jewish cartoons in the past? Seems that one poster isn't really paying attention...
Why are we talking about economic and social conditions in the middle east countries when the terrorists from Paris were born and raised in France? And got radicalized not following some dramatic events, but either under the influence of a radical imam or when in prison for a petty crime?
Why are you listening to people on Tumblr?
DrGonzo615
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Wow, Im amazed at the amount of people who have joined the "But" brigade. As in "I believe in free speech but...."
totally shameful.
totally shameful.
DrGonzo615
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More proof that Tumblr is a place that nobody should ever visit.
Because there is school of thought that puts religion at the last reason why Islamic extremism exists. It's not what the holy books say....it's not what scientific polls say...it's not what the extremists say...it's not the history of the region/religion....they are all just products of the West, first and foremost. It's the ultimate in victim blaming.
Yes. Extremist ideologies have an origin in rich Arab countries that don't need a traditional economic structure to keep up, in western and poorer arab countries they prey on the hopeless to form their army.
Jordan or Tunesia for example would go bankrupt with Saudi-Arabia's laws like not letting women drive.
End results must either be keeping the faith in a good future for the youth high or ending trade with the terrorist funding oil paradises (could lead to innocent in those countries getting hurt though).
Naked Snake
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But where will I get my porn from then?
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