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SPIDER-MAN: NO WAY HOME - Official Trailer

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We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
Why do trailers now have previews of the trailer that play before the trailer? I'm talking about the first 4 seconds or so if you are watching it on youtube. This is the dumbest shit that movie studios do these days (Marvel is especially guilty of this).

We now have count downs to trailers, "teasers" are fucking 3 minutes long, and trailers now have shorter trailers that play before you watch the actual trailer of the same trailer to let you know you are about to watch the trailer.

It's not the movie studios doing dumb shit, it's actually pretty smart. They have all the metrics, they know that people's attention spans are incredibly short and they've figured out that if they don't give some people a five second preview of a 3 minute clip, chances are those people will click away before the first minute - because trailers naturally start slow.

Just another sign of the times where people's dopamine receptors are broken and they need a constant drip of excitement every few seconds or they scroll past.
 

SafeOrAlone

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horrid cgi there
Yup. Just pretend it's a side effect of him being made out of electricity and all. Horrid solution, but I'm sticking to it for now.
 

TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
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horrid cgi there

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The new suit looks like it was from an early 80's Spider-Man compared to The Amazing Spider-Man 2 suit.

Btw as we can see Michelle is gonna do the Gwen Stacy in this.
Wouldn't it be awesome if Andrew Garfield's Spidy actual catches her instead of Tom's Spidy.
 
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Some Ropey CGI Spidey FX. CGI is getting shitter by the day.
for a few reasons:

1. barrier of entry is near non-existent - ie. mediocre talent of people willing to do anything for cheaper just to get their foot in the industry has flooded the talent pool.
2. veteran talent retainment /years in the career is horrid. Last I heard it was 8 years (on average) and that was in 2008/2010. which then places underexperienced or inadequate people into senior roles too early etc.
3. the needs and demand by all industries for CG/VFX is astronomical. and the clients want it faster and cheaper.
4. the studios/artists are overworked and underpaid.

roll that all up.
 
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NahaNago

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I'm thinking that in that clip with lizard, sandman, and that electro guy the lizard was jumping at a different spiderman because their is no way he was aiming for the spiderman that was shown.
 

The Skull

Member
I'm thinking that in that clip with lizard, sandman, and that electro guy the lizard was jumping at a different spiderman because their is no way he was aiming for the spiderman that was shown.
Check the Brazilian trailer. Lizard gets punched mid air by an invisible force.
 

Nikana

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I'm thinking that in that clip with lizard, sandman, and that electro guy the lizard was jumping at a different spiderman because their is no way he was aiming for the spiderman that was shown.
THe perspective makes no sense. Who are LIzard and Electro looking at? Its certainly not Holland.

But others have said as well, theres a trailer where lizard gets hit by an invisible force.
 

NahaNago

Member
Check the Brazilian trailer. Lizard gets punched mid air by an invisible force.
I honestly was thinking the Brazilian trailer was fake cause that lizard head movement makes no sense. The only thing that would explain it is if that trailer had edited out some cg that would make that scene make sense.
 

Doom85

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“You’re not the real MJ,” proceeds to drop her.

“You’re actually worth a damn”, and catches her again.

Sorry, Raimi’s version of MJ was weak IMHO, ironically the most in 2 despite it being the best of that trilogy. Oh yeah, give the guy who is working two jobs and going to college shit for not having time to go to your play, but praise the others for making it when this Aunt May was seemingly retired, Harry was in change of his company and could set his own schedule, and her dad was an out-of-work bum. The movie siding with her on this baffled the fuck out of me, does Raimi know how insanely busy Peter’s life would be even without being Spider-man at that point in his life?
 

dr_octagon

Banned
Dr Strange should have a cameo at most, this is more like MCU adventures with Spiderman. It happened with Iron Man and the story suffers for it.

You have a multiverse villain and hero story, that's plenty without needing to set up your future films with a different character. The villains and main characters from the two previous sets of Spiderman film are more interesting than the MCU trilogy.

It's cool to see but no substitute for having your own identity, interesting stories and characters which Holland's series has been lacking.
 

VulcanRaven

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In an interview with GQ, Holland spoke about his time in the franchise and whether or not he'll be playing everyone's favourite webhead for too much longer: “Maybe it is time for me to move on. Maybe what’s best for Spider-Man is that they do a Miles Morales film," Holland says.

The actor then continues by adding that he'd also want to take his character, Peter Parker, into account when making any decisions about his future before finally adding, “If I’m playing Spider-Man after I’m 30, I’ve done something wrong.”
 

The Skull

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I also just can't get on baord with Zenyatta, or whatever the fuck she's called. Not seen her in any other flicks but she can't act for shit in these Spidey films and it's consistent cringe whenever she's trying to be funny or sarcastic.
 

TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
“You’re actually worth a damn”, and catches her again.

Sorry, Raimi’s version of MJ was weak IMHO, ironically the most in 2 despite it being the best of that trilogy. Oh yeah, give the guy who is working two jobs and going to college shit for not having time to go to your play, but praise the others for making it when this Aunt May was seemingly retired, Harry was in change of his company and could set his own schedule, and her dad was an out-of-work bum. The movie siding with her on this baffled the fuck out of me, does Raimi know how insanely busy Peter’s life would be even without being Spider-man at that point in his life?
Ironically that was pretty realistic 😂
Anyway theres something I just can't stand about Michelle.
That little bit in the trailer with the "Please" part is an example of why.
Just grinds my gears.
 

Doom85

Member
Ironically that was pretty realistic 😂
Anyway theres something I just can't stand about Michelle.
That little bit in the trailer with the "Please" part is an example of why.
Just grinds my gears.

I mean, her boyfriend was being bossed around by the guy who probably deserves more blame for the predicament they’re in. Yes, Peter distracted Strange when casting the spell, but Wong specifically told Strange not to cast it period. I’d know if I was Peter I would appreciate it if my girlfriend told Stephen off in that moment, and Stephen himself does immediately chill out so I don’t see why it’s annoying. Yes, Strange saved the world once, that doesn’t give him a “get out of jail free” card for any massive fuck-ups of this scale.
 

dr_octagon

Banned
I also just can't get on baord with Zenyatta, or whatever the fuck she's called. Not seen her in any other flicks but she can't act for shit in these Spidey films and it's consistent cringe whenever she's trying to be funny or sarcastic.
A decent film studio would have MJ die in a similar and tragic fashion. Thematically the death of the character parallels Amazing Spiderman 2, brings weight to the story, Spiderman suffers a loss and has to deal with consequences. The idea of not being able to save the one you love and living with failure and regret. You end up with motivation and it goes beyond a giant CGI spectacle.

Instead we'll get quips about how sandwiches take too long to prepare or some other bollocks.
 

Doom85

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A decent film studio would have MJ die in a similar and tragic fashion. Thematically the death of the character parallels Amazing Spiderman 2, brings weight to the story, Spiderman suffers a loss and has to deal with consequences. The idea of not being able to save the one you love and living with failure and regret. You end up with motivation and it goes beyond a giant CGI spectacle.

Instead we'll get quips about how sandwiches take too long to prepare or some other bollocks.

A) MJ doesn’t die in the comics, and B) that type of story has been done to death in superhero stories. It’s actually refreshing to see love interests not always get axed off.

Also, it’s Peter Parker, his entire shtick is already being motivated by someone he failed to protect.
 

dr_octagon

Banned
A) MJ doesn’t die in the comics, and B) that type of story has been done to death in superhero stories. It’s actually refreshing to see love interests not always get axed off.

Also, it’s Peter Parker, his entire shtick is already being motivated by someone he failed to protect.
I've not seem the comics, could be his friend instead.

McGuire and Molina remain the best hero and villain combo in the franchise.
 

bitbydeath

Gold Member
Ironically that was pretty realistic 😂
Anyway theres something I just can't stand about Michelle.
That little bit in the trailer with the "Please" part is an example of why.
Just grinds my gears.
She comes off as the sort of person that would relish in the smell of her own farts.
 
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ManaByte

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Like the article says, both Sony and Marvel want him to continue and his tone will change when there's $20M a movie on the table.
 

TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
I mean, her boyfriend was being bossed around by the guy who probably deserves more blame for the predicament they’re in. Yes, Peter distracted Strange when casting the spell, but Wong specifically told Strange not to cast it period. I’d know if I was Peter I would appreciate it if my girlfriend told Stephen off in that moment, and Stephen himself does immediately chill out so I don’t see why it’s annoying. Yes, Strange saved the world once, that doesn’t give him a “get out of jail free” card for any massive fuck-ups of this scale.
It wasn't that, its her mannerisms, the way she speaks and her poorly executed sarcasm and smugness.
 
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Kraz

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Makes me think that the movie is going to have Peter(Tom) sacrifice himself somehow to keep from condemning. He is told he screwed up the spell, maybe he takes responsibility to heart. Not dead from the sacrifice, but lost in the multiverse(no way home). Write him in or out of the MCU afterwards. Would be possible in story if he wasn't worried about May, as in she died and maybe his sacrifice saves her retroactively or not.
Let's the studio feel out replacing or not going forward. By mentioning Miles that starts that conversation and shows he's not offended by it and supports the speculation.
 

TGO

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Makes me think that the movie is going to have Peter(Tom) sacrifice himself somehow to keep from condemning. He is told he screwed up the spell, maybe he takes responsibility to heart. Not dead from the sacrifice, but lost in the multiverse(no way home). Write him in or out of the MCU afterwards. Would be possible in story if he wasn't worried about May, as in she died and maybe his sacrifice saves her retroactively or not.
Let's the studio feel out replacing or not going forward. By mentioning Miles that starts that conversation and shows he's not offended by it and supports the speculation.
I'd be cool if he takes a break "due to event's of this movie" sorta like SM2's "I'm Spider-Man no more"
and let one of the OG's take over for a bit with Tom just being Peter.
Have Tobey mentor him and convince him into returning etc, etc
And have him come back for in Phase 5
 

YukiOnna

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Still feels like he's just saying this to keep a lid on talks and anything to do with the movie.
 

TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Still feels like he's just saying this to keep a lid on talks and anything to do with the movie.
Well it's only Thor that's had more then a trilogy
It's not hard to believe his Solo films are done now.
 

YukiOnna

Member
Well it's only Thor that's had more then a trilogy
It's not hard to believe his Solo films are done now.
That's true. Hemsworth has had a sort of reverse story where he went from not really enjoying it to loving it, so different circumstances, too.
 

RCU005

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Everybody is talking about Tobey and Andrew but I don't see anyone talking about the most important thing (and the most realistic): VENOM!

Spoilers for Venom 2: Eddie and Venom were transported to the MCU, why? They got transported to a timeframe between Far from Home and No Way Home, which is like 1 week or so. Why?

Regardless if Toby and Andrew are in the film, why would they transport them to that specific timeframe it they are not going to make at the very least a cameo appearance in the movie?
 

Bragr

Banned
Does anyone here actually enjoy any of the stand-alone Tom Holland movies?

Hell, when was the last solid Marvel movie period.
 

ManaByte

Member
Everybody is talking about Tobey and Andrew but I don't see anyone talking about the most important thing (and the most realistic): VENOM!

Spoilers for Venom 2: Eddie and Venom were transported to the MCU, why? They got transported to a timeframe between Far from Home and No Way Home, which is like 1 week or so. Why?

Regardless if Toby and Andrew are in the film, why would they transport them to that specific timeframe it they are not going to make at the very least a cameo appearance in the movie?
Apparently it’s just
a mid credits scene
 

RCU005

Member
Does anyone here actually enjoy any of the stand-alone Tom Holland movies?

Hell, when was the last solid Marvel movie period.

Many of them are, and many people enjoy the movies. If you don't, you're probably in the minority, but you're in your right not to like them.

Apparently it’s just
a mid credits scene

The thing is that none of the mid or post credit senes are just that. They all lead to something. In this case, it's Spider-Man sony-verse future and Sony is VERY interested in it.
 

sol_bad

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I mean, her boyfriend was being bossed around by the guy who probably deserves more blame for the predicament they’re in. Yes, Peter distracted Strange when casting the spell, but Wong specifically told Strange not to cast it period. I’d know if I was Peter I would appreciate it if my girlfriend told Stephen off in that moment, and Stephen himself does immediately chill out so I don’t see why it’s annoying. Yes, Strange saved the world once, that doesn’t give him a “get out of jail free” card for any massive fuck-ups of this scale.

Are we really talking about "plot points" based on a trailer? Doesn't everyone remember how we all thought the multiverse would be introduced in Far From Home?
 

Boss Mog

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Why is Tom's Spider-man desperately trying to save these murderous villains, that has me very concerned. Sounds like some kind of "criminals are good guys deep down" political agenda pushing.
 

sol_bad

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Why is Tom's Spider-man desperately trying to save these murderous villains, that has me very concerned. Sounds like some kind of "criminals are good guys deep down" political agenda pushing.

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Spider-man never kills, leave your politics at the door. He didn't kill Vulture or Mysterio in the last 2 movies. Mysterio did allegedly die but it was an accident. And again, why are people constantly complaining about "plot" when it's just a trailer. Scenes can be shown out of order and out of context in trailers.
 

BadBurger

Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
Why is Tom's Spider-man desperately trying to save these murderous villains, that has me very concerned. Sounds like some kind of "criminals are good guys deep down" political agenda pushing.

All of these villains were cast as sympathetic in their own ways in the previous Spider-Man movies. Doc Ock probably moreso than the rest, since he literally could not help himself for half the movie.
 

Boss Mog

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Had any of the Spider-Man's really wanted to kill the antagonists outside of SM3 though?
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Spider-man never kills, leave your politics at the door. He didn't kill Vulture or Mysterio in the last 2 movies. Mysterio did allegedly die but it was an accident. And again, why are people constantly complaining about "plot" when it's just a trailer. Scenes can be shown out of order and out of context in trailers.
All of these villains were cast as sympathetic in their own ways in the previous Spider-Man movies. Doc Ock probably moreso than the rest, since he literally could not help himself for half the movie.
I'm not that familiar with the comics and so I guess I forgot that he doesn't kill. Now that I think about it, even in the PS4 game when you throw enemies off of building they get auto-webbed to the side on the building. I jumped the gun there, my bad. Thanks for clearing that up.
 

Pasedo

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Saw two different green goblins
Electro
Sandman
Lizard
Doc Oc

also I think there are three spidermen in the trailer. Black suit, red suit and the iron slider suit, the hand at the end getting MJ is from another Spider-Man I think.
Yeh that's right. There are 3 different suits. Why would Tom Holland's spiderman be wearing all 3. Also towards the end where he already looks like he is in the climatic battle and says "this is my fault I can't save everyone" he is wearing his standard spidey suit but in the battle scenes with the villians he is wearing his metallic white lined spidey suit. Did he do a quick wardrobe change mid battle. Theres got to be multiple spideys in there. Perhaps the black suit one is Miles Morales... Which is also introducing him into the MCU. Probably even more to it than we're speculating.
 

VulcanRaven

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Yeh that's right. There are 3 different suits. Why would Tom Holland's spiderman be wearing all 3. Also towards the end where he already looks like he is in the climatic battle and says "this is my fault I can't save everyone" he is wearing his standard spidey suit but in the battle scenes with the villians he is wearing his metallic white lined spidey suit. Did he do a quick wardrobe change mid battle. Theres got to be multiple spideys in there. Perhaps the black suit one is Miles Morales... Which is also introducing him into the MCU. Probably even more to it than we're speculating.
I'm pretty sure Holland wears all the suits we have seen. Doc Ock takes the Iron Spider suit away from him like we see in the trailer so he uses the red/black suit again. He then updates it with the golden spider symbol for the final battle. The black suit is probably him too. They want to sell toys so he has to have many suits.

Edit: We can see him wearing the black suit without the mask in the first trailer.
 
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