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Splatoon |OT3| Feel Good Ink
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SUPERJEM94
Banned
I'm playing so bad rn 
tournament question. Doesn't need a real answer. It's just something to consider in these early days.
Basically... How do you guys think things should be handled as far as modes and maps? Should we incorporate multiple modes? Multiple rounds per mode? Should maps be counter pick? What maps would be considered neutral? Should people be able to back out and change weapons depending on the counter picks?
Obviously we might not be able to answer these questions right now, but I think it'll still be fun to brainstorm.
Basically... How do you guys think things should be handled as far as modes and maps? Should we incorporate multiple modes? Multiple rounds per mode? Should maps be counter pick? What maps would be considered neutral? Should people be able to back out and change weapons depending on the counter picks?
Obviously we might not be able to answer these questions right now, but I think it'll still be fun to brainstorm.
Just to be clear, robotguy is getting people for the squidboards tournament which already has rules.
http://squidboards.com/threads/ink-or-sink-tournament.3564/
PadWarrior
Member
Got a guy in atrocious stream talking about hentai.
BlueSilver
Member
Yeah.
But I figured gaf would hold a few tournaments of its own eventually and was wondering what people thought.
Personally I think it'll depend a lot of whether people can find setups to really cheese the modes. Like multiple inkstrikes on turf wars may make turf wars not so interesting. Otherwise I think all modes are viable at the moment.
Just to be clear, I'm seeing who would be interested in joining gaf squads for the squidboards tourney Totakeke just posted. Are you interested in that, or just future GAF tourneys?I posted yesterday I am down for Gaf tourney. Still am.
I am interested in being a part of the squidboards tournament. I'll have my work schedule soon enough to be able to give you my available dates and times.
But all I was doing was wondering what people's opinions were on how a tournament should be handled. Just brainstorming. For fun and for the future.
For instance, it doesn't look like squidboards put a lot of thought into the maps. It's just divided by the maps we had from the beginning and the maps we got later. Which is fine for these early days, but probably won't end up being the best solution over time.
Saint Gregory
Member
I don't even know what to say about that one :/
GGs everyone!
GGs everyone!
Triforce141
Member
What's with the sudden increase of Tentatek Splattershots in turf war recently? I keep on running into 3 at the very least every match.
Japan's favorite.
I think all maps should be played and viable, the bigger question to me is how to handle weapon and gear loadouts which can be ripe for counterpicking. Locking in the winning team into their previous game's weapons doesn't quite work either. I don't know how other multiplayer shooters handle tournaments but should at least start looking there.
Yeah, I know you're interested, was asking Crisium.
I'm not a huge fan of how squidboards is handling maps, and especially not how they're handling game modes. Game modes rotate each round, which means you only play each opponent in one mode. I think if we're going to switch modes during the tournament you should have to play every opponent on every mode that's included in the tournament. I don't really know what I specifically I would do differently map wise other than eliminate the arbitrary restriction of playing one of the first five maps for the first match. In general I think that the map rules should encourage as much map diversity as possible.
Yeah, that's a difficult issue. There's way too much variation, and a lot of people won't have their "perfect builds" ready any time soon, while some will.
You only play one team in one mode? That's weird. The way I read it it sounded like you played each team in each mode.
And yeah, for now I think all maps should be available with losers being able to counterpick whichever map they want, possibly allowing winners to ban a few picks. I think squidboards has half the right idea, but cutting the maps in half just doesn't make sense right now since the game hasn't been played long enough to declare certain maps unfair or bannable or whatever. As it stands all maps are on even ground.
I was so mad about that. I could not hit himLol, I was disappointed with Red on that one.
Mellopillow
Neo Member
Has Gaf actually formed some teams yet? I'm not particularly fond of their rule set, but I wanna see who's interested in joining so far out of the people here haha
Well, that's how I read it at least:
Except in Finals, where you can play anything in any order depending on how the teams pick.
We don't have teams yet, but people who I've seen express interest so far are me, RedFyn, Black_Status, Totakeke, Timeasisis, Azure J, Gsnap, J@ranimo, PreyingShark, Jims, Crisium, and atr0cious.
I will remember this affront to my skill Robotguy.
My apologies, it's difficult to keep track of every gaffer who is interested in joining a tournament squad.
Also again to be clear on the Squidboards tournament, each round is a best of five and the two teams have 48 hours from the start time of the tournament (August 7th 6 AM(?) EST) to finish a round so no one needs to take Friday off to play. Based on that the tournament may play throughout the whole week or more since each round could potentially take 2 days to finish. Format is double elimination playoffs similar to the FGC tournament structure.
No clue how the game mode rotation will work since doesn't the losers and winner brackets are technically in different number of rounds? I think they'll figure out things eventually.
No clue how the game mode rotation will work since doesn't the losers and winner brackets are technically in different number of rounds? I think they'll figure out things eventually.
CoconutTank
Member
You need to start throwing Burst Bombs when enemies are nearby. I need to make that a habit myself, but Burst Bombs will help you a lot with fast kills in close quarters.Good games, GAF. If anyone needs a long-ranger (Squelchers, Splattershot Pros, .96 Gal) for a squad down the line, hit me up.
I think I'm just going to specialize in the long-ranged weapons, since I enjoy the zoning game more than the close-up agility-based stuff. That's why I play Yoshi in Smash and not Diddy Kong.
(Although I hate defensive characters like Rosalina, so go figure.)
After playing Custom Jet Squelcher against GAF for the first time, I'm not sure how I feel about it. When the room has no snipers (like the recent GAF room), it becomes the ultimate camping and zoning tool. But at the same time, I feel really defenseless when someone gets in close. It's one of the slowest killing weapons in the game. When there actually is a sniper, I don't feel like it's fast enough to take them out efficiently.
Keeping a Kraken for the very end seems to be the key in close matches. We actually lost that one Moray match because SM239 and someone else (splatacus?) rushed me down in the last 20 seconds and took over our ramps. If I hadn't used the Kraken a little earlier, I could've stopped 'em. Oh well, live and learn.
Haha, yeah. I thought we were losing so I was going for the SPITE SPLAT at the end.
I don't think you want to be holding onto Kraken too long. Use it when you feel you are under fire or if you and an enemy manage to get close enough to each other. You definitely want to use the end of the Kraken to get back to safe territory though. Going too deep with the CJS will get you in trouble.
I want to say the CJS, like the 96 Gal Deco, can probably rely more on the main weapon and sub weapon than on the special. However I haven't found a good way to deal with short distances around corners; the only good options are to either spec for 1 shot 1 bomb and have good accuracy, or use the Kraken.
PreyingShark
Member
First round:
Standalone RNG picks from the maps that aren't considered to be stupidly biased towards certain weapon types (so not Arowana Mall)
Person who used RNG tells everyone what the map is.
Both teams pick weapons independently.
Second round and beyond:
Loser picks maps (from entire selection)
Winner picks weapons, tells the losers
Losers pick their weapons
Gear would be a nightmare and isn't too important, just keep it at weapons and then you can rip off of Smash Bros IMO
Hmm sounds good, I think people can just choose whatever gear they wish to keep an element of surprise. Disagree on Arowana Mall though, people should set up their teams to have a good mix to account for all maps at start.
That doesn't sound too bad. It'll take a while before we can decide which maps are banned from neutrals, if any.
Trying out the Charger. It's a fun weapon, but it feels more team depended than the others. I can usually handle a bad team, unless they really suck. I usually use an Areospary btw. But with the Charger, I feel completely helpless if my team sucks.
Then again, it may get better the more experience I gain experience.
Then again, it may get better the more experience I gain experience.
So are you down for the squidboards tourney then?Haha I was just kidding
But a Gaf tournament sounds fun!
Great games again to everyone who came by and hung out or played on my stream, while I had a complete mental break trying to play tonight, especially when grabbing a rapid blaster. Fortunately, I didn't end the night on a sour note, finally figuring out the recipe to the OPness and stream rolling the rest of the night. Literally the game after Heng went to bed, I went 11-0 and never looked back. Which was bittersweet, because he forced me to use the damned thing.
Sure, but I've never heard of squidboards.
Yes 5/6th depending on time zone
Cool, I'll put you on the list.
That's it, and we need a big post/thread describing the overall contét available after this update. How many maps, weapons, what game modes etc. will there be? What will be part of a future update, compared to what was promised in previous Directs?