Nico_D
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So basically...Rollers vs Chargers?
I'm no ninja. It's a spesific camper type of snipers who are the ninjas. I rather participate in the action.
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Splatoon |OT4| You're a detriment to your squad
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I'm no ninja. It's a spesific camper type of snipers who are the ninjas. I rather participate in the action.
Winnie the Pimp
Member
So after just unlocking the Krak On Splat Roller at level 7 (yes lol i know but i just got the game ok?) is there actually a difference between this and the regular splat roller? I mean just by glancing at the stats, they look to be exactly the same, so is the only difference the sub weapons then?
Also: I feel pretty confident using a roller right now, at what level will i unlock an ACTUAL better one then? (if at all)
Also: I feel pretty confident using a roller right now, at what level will i unlock an ACTUAL better one then? (if at all)
Burning Justice
the superior princess
No difference at all in the primary weapon. Every weapon in the game has one alternate version where the primary weapon is the same, but the sub and special are different.
And the only other rollers are: the Carbon Roller, unlocked at level 10, which is faster than the Splat Roller but the splash isn't as big and rolling over someone doesn't kill them in one hit, and the Dynamo Roller, unlocked at level 15 and after completing the single-player mode, which is slower than the Splat Roller but has a huge splash range.
Winnie the Pimp
Member
Tx, so basically i believe i will just stick with the regular Splat Roller then as i am getting good results with it... plus i just love the whail attack.
What about equipment though? Does that get better with time or just "different" as well?
Generally yes, but in some cases like with the Dual Squelcher, it has less firing range than the branded version.
Er, what? Pretty sure that isn't true
Inquisitive_Ghost
Member
So basically...Rollers vs Chargers?
I don't know if any GAF chargers are of the ninja variety. I'm probably one of the closest, and even I get in on the action.
Pretty much, yeah. The key is to try out the different weapon classes to see what main weapon works best for you, and then go from there to see if you like the sub and special ability for that weapon. Also keep in mind that different weapons work best for the games different modes.
For example, I personally love using the N-ZAP '89 in Turf Wars and Rainmaker, as it's a great shooter that's purpose is more coverage-oriented. (Like the '85 version, the main weapon has a similar rate of fire and damage to the Splattershot Jr., but it has better accuracy and range. I also love the Sprinkler and Inkstrike, as it works best for my playstyle).
Alternatively, I prefer the Hero Shot Replica/Splattershot for Tower Control, as 2 Burst Bombs can "splat" a foe, and you can lob four of them before filling up. The main weapon is well balanced, with decent range, accuracy, fire rate, and damage.
It does take a bit of trial and error, so I would suggest trying out the different rollers to see which one works best for you. Also, don't be afraid to try out the other weapons, as they might tickle your fancy.
I assume by equipment you mean clothing/abilities? If so yes its just different. Obviously some abilities are better for your weapon and playstyle than others.
What?
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Edit: The ranges are the same now, but back in August when I used to use red gun, they were different. The wiki still has their legacy ranges as 70 and 75.
Lord Ghirahim
Member
yay
Wasn't that fixed in the first month?
SparksterMeta0
Member
Are we gonna hear further lamentations of Marie after this?
Marie and her wise words.
Joined the barbarian's train, because let's face it, a dynamo cannot be a ninja, qr x3 main x9 sub was made for us in mind and you know it.
Not as big as Pirates v Ninja, though.
The lag in this game can be so weird sometimes. I chased someone into a corner using the Mini Splattling while bubbled, and unloaded what must have been 3 fully charged rounds into her, enough to kill her like 12-15 times over, yet she doesn't die. My bubble runs out and then she kills me. I watch the squids at the top of the screen to see if she ever dies, but she doesn't, so that's weird, usually people at least die eventually when something like that happens. I did meet up with her again right away and killed her about 5 more times before she finally died, or maybe she just finally got hit by my bullets from the first encounter, who knows?
I would love to see that encounter from her perspective. Like, what is going on in her game, do I just look like an idiot who's shooting at nothing for 10 seconds while she watches from the side? Thankfully that's the only time I've ever seen anything so bad.
I would love to see that encounter from her perspective. Like, what is going on in her game, do I just look like an idiot who's shooting at nothing for 10 seconds while she watches from the side? Thankfully that's the only time I've ever seen anything so bad.
Congratulations! Don't sell yourself short though, if you made it to S you definitely are at a higher play than "high A". Try "Low S/High A+" if anything. And it will only get better. ^^
May your S rank partners ever be the great players and near-gods that inexplicably reside in the rank, and not the 1/10's that reside in it at just as confusingly a number.
Hahaha thanks! I'm not a bad player but my couple of bad matches (like 3/12 in the K/D and not doing anything good with the rainmaker) were overshadowed by very good teammates (not god tier
) so that's why I say I had some luck to get to S. Now I see the matches only gives/takes you 5 points? Is that right? (And the matchmaking is slower). If that's so maybe I can stay longer in S rank than I thought (but it'll be impossible to reach S+ because I'd need to win 14 matches in a row...)
tonyh24613
Member
The Japanese wiki (more likely to be accurate) has their range at 68.
tonyh24613
Member
Japan 10th Splatfest
Perfect Body vs. Perfect Mind
Popularity 44% vs. 56%
Winning rate 53% vs. 47%
Total score 362 vs. 338
Perfect Body wins.
Perfect Body vs. Perfect Mind
Popularity 44% vs. 56%
Winning rate 53% vs. 47%
Total score 362 vs. 338
Perfect Body wins.
Lord Ghirahim
Member
Not surprising, #TeamMind had some very very terrible people. Oh well.
Nico_D
Member
Well aren't you a rebel! Don't you know the common consensus and a vertý well known fact is that Camp Triggerfish SZ is in TOP 3 of the worst SZ maps which along with Flounder Heights and Hammerhead Bridge?
Now you know. You are healed.
I... actually didn't know that. Is it just because of the locks that can happen? The two zones? One heavy weapon is enough to break the former, I've learned that the hard way when I try to hold them near spawn.
I really like the multiple (yet all visible from each other) approaches on the stage.
I also don't mind Hammerhead Bridge Zones, until two (or more) people die and have to make the looooong run back, losing way too many points. The entire issue would have been made lighter of the Spawn point was on the tall block, and it also borrowed the RM addition of the inkable blocks to get up your right side.
Edit: oh yeah and Flounder Heights Zones is still just the most confusing stuff ever lol. Never know what I'm doing there. I like to pretend I do.
I really like the multiple (yet all visible from each other) approaches on the stage.
I also don't mind Hammerhead Bridge Zones, until two (or more) people die and have to make the looooong run back, losing way too many points. The entire issue would have been made lighter of the Spawn point was on the tall block, and it also borrowed the RM addition of the inkable blocks to get up your right side.
Edit: oh yeah and Flounder Heights Zones is still just the most confusing stuff ever lol. Never know what I'm doing there. I like to pretend I do.
How is mall, towers, and port zones not the top three? No question about trigger fish being annoying but Heights and Bridge are nowhere near as bad those lol.
Nico_D
Member
Locks are the main reason why I and many others hate Camp SZ. There was a lenghty discussion about it in Discord one day. It is way too easy to get locked out of your own zone - it's basically a race: the team that gets to the zones quicker, wins the game. Theoretically but very often in practice too.
Naturally I struggle as a charger to get to a position after a lockdown. I can't get to the top of the fence because I can be dropped immeaditely from down below (and I can't shut straight down from up there) or from opposite side by long range weapons or competing chargers.
The best strategy that I've managed to make work is the RUSH through the zone to the left slope and stay there. There I can watch my own zone and also have a good view to the bridge. But that works only if there's not a competent charger on the enemy team that can snipe me during the rush. And it's not that hard of a shot.
I don't like Hammerhead for the same reason I don't like Flounder, which is partly because of my charger status. Not even relatively decent spots to snipe from. And charger or no charger, it's too chaotic. It's the opposite of the Camp.
Because I'm a charger?
Besides that, Mall is very good, very hard to get shut out of the zone, comebacks are fully possibile. Towers sucks only because it's E-Liter playground - I've nothing else to do there except to camp the other sniper hoping I catch him before he catches me, so boring and tedious.
I don't love Port, but I don't hate it either. If anything I have maybe gotten a bit tired of it already. It requires a good team and extremely tight map control to keep those lanes locked. If someone screws up, the end. Of course, comebacks are a bit too hard there. You can get locked out if you let the enemy get there too far.
Too often I've seen matches lost at Port because team hasn't inked their own turf.
silenttype01
Member
I managed to play Ranked for the four hours last night. It felt like the game was giving me an hour's worth of playtime on each map. It wouldn't give me the other map until an hour has passed.
I main the Krak-On roller and got grouped with three other rollers against 4 guns in Moray Towers. I was happy that we won.
I main the Krak-On roller and got grouped with three other rollers against 4 guns in Moray Towers. I was happy that we won.
Seriously.
LOL! I didn't expect this response at all.
Yeah it essentially is a race between half of your team getting to your zone while fighting them off and the other half executing the flank to their zone and surviving successfully. Whatever happens after that it's pretty hard to get it back, especially with gals with shower walls waiting to block you off...
Nah...Heights is still pretty bad haha. Everything is a nonsense flank
or maybe I should just use rollers more
CoconutTank
Member
Worst maps in the game are Camp Triggerfish and Moray Towers.
Really? Weird cos when I played it last, a couple of weeks ago, the framerate was bad. At least I think so? Maybe I am missremembering
I'm really not a fan of Moray myself.
Inquisitive_Ghost
Member
Moray is just way too easily broken by good Elitres. It's not bad outside of that (it's a great Sploosh map), and a good Elitre is a boon on any map, but Moray just feels so horribly unbalanced on that front.
Camp is one of my favorite rainmaker stages and tower control isn't too bad either.
Camp is great. At least if you're using a weapon with decent range.
I'm beginning to feel like I should play nothing but Splat Zones in solo queue. Between "get on the tower" and "quit grabbing the fish and running it into the same death path" I am positively peeved right about now.
Same with Port Mackerel.
Though Towers you can be the worst sniper in the game and still pose a threat.
Same with Port Mackerel.
Though Towers you can be the worst sniper in the game and still pose a threat.
I hate Moray Towers zones because of chargers, I find it really hard to take them out with the weapons I main (mini splatling or splattershot junior). I still play it when it's in rotation though, to try and think up ways to counter the chargers but at the same time I resign myself to losing a lot of ranked points
I find whenever I get on to play most of the time it's splat zones Mahi Mahi/Museum or Mahi Mahi/Dome :/ Not that I mind, I quite like all three maps but as a result I haven't played most other maps, not just in splatzones but in other modes too. I also don't see tower control very often.
I find whenever I get on to play most of the time it's splat zones Mahi Mahi/Museum or Mahi Mahi/Dome :/ Not that I mind, I quite like all three maps but as a result I haven't played most other maps, not just in splatzones but in other modes too. I also don't see tower control very often.