[SPOILER THREAD] Suicide Squad
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lucky you, they spoiled damn near every cool Harley and Joker scene through the trailers. ugh.
One of the gloss over things, it was 3 days since the attack started so made sense most of the city was empty.
Also... poor Ropeguy didn't even make it into an action sequence.
Got home a little while ago and really enjoyed the film a lot. As did my sister. I was really happy to see how diverse the audience was as well in my showing. Plenty of laughs throughout the film too. There could have been more Joker though. However it's not his film but I want to see a cut with him in more scenes. The use of Batman was good and even though he's in the film overall for a short amount of time he was used effectively I think.
I really like that Harley's classic jester costume was in the film and with her in it. I wasn't at all expecting that and it was a direct shot of that picture with her and Joker. The biggest surprise for me was The Flash. Didn't expect him to show up but was really happy he did.
I assumed it was because she was casting magic. Wasn't surprised by that. I've read and seen other things where people casting magic or just doing things mystical would move in weird ways. Why that's a thing I'm not sure. She's also ancient and could be ties to tribal origins and movement.
The Flash shows up when Waller explaining the different characters in her meeting. When she gets to Boomerrang and is explaining who he is we see a flashback to his capture and see he was captured by Flash.
I really like that Harley's classic jester costume was in the film and with her in it. I wasn't at all expecting that and it was a direct shot of that picture with her and Joker. The biggest surprise for me was The Flash. Didn't expect him to show up but was really happy he did.
I assumed it was because she was casting magic. Wasn't surprised by that. I've read and seen other things where people casting magic or just doing things mystical would move in weird ways. Why that's a thing I'm not sure. She's also ancient and could be ties to tribal origins and movement.
The Flash shows up when Waller explaining the different characters in her meeting. When she gets to Boomerrang and is explaining who he is we see a flashback to his capture and see he was captured by Flash.
EdibleExplosives
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That shit was hilarious, as was "her heart's destroyed, now's our time to finish her!". Wow, nice observation dude.
Lol, I was like "what the fuck is she doing?" when I saw that.
No, I meant where was Flash during the events of this film? It is supposed to take place over 3 days and it is happening in his city, right? Midway?
He is in central
Haha yea that was great.
She's always an idiot asshole.
cj_iwakura
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She is a badass. And an asshole.
Waller causing her own problems is nothing new but as others have said it not good for a first movie.
BronsonLee
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Here's how a Suicide Squad story goes
An ill-advised group is put together by Waller
She sends them on a mission
Shit goes bad or she tries to fuck them over, either way it's always her fucking fault
They skate by on the skin of their teeth
She gets off scot-free
An ill-advised group is put together by Waller
She sends them on a mission
Shit goes bad or she tries to fuck them over, either way it's always her fucking fault
They skate by on the skin of their teeth
She gets off scot-free
Ah, I stand corrected. I thought it was his home.
This. People like Waller for these reasons. She's not meant to be likable.
Brief flashes during the flashback, this is that scene we saw them shooting on the street, wish we got the whole thing.
That reminds me, I really liked Harley's gun. I wonder if the Love/Hate thing is a direct Night of the Hunter reference.
Legitimately freaked out when they showed that. Wasn't expecting to see a recreation of Alex Ross's Harley and Joker.
Brief flashes during the flashback, this is that scene we saw them shooting on the street, wish we got the whole thing.
Yeah, the famous slap scene.
Lights and Waves
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Brief flashes during the flashback, this is that scene we saw them shooting on the street, wish we got the whole thing.
Maybe we will when the blu-ray comes out.
Jester scene! https://www.instagram.com/p/BIqN0ELhJb0/
It's always Waller's fault because she has a mission then she has a mission
And never let's them in on the 2nd one which eventually ends up biting everyone in the arse.
I mean it's a movie of bad vs evil, and ultimately Waller is the "Evil" in this film.Should have pushed it more.
cj_iwakura
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Really glad I stayed for the post-credits stinger.
"You believe in friends. I believe in leverage."
"Pack it up. Let my friends handle it."
I wouldn't mind seeing more of Wayne and Waller.
"You believe in friends. I believe in leverage."
"Pack it up. Let my friends handle it."
I wouldn't mind seeing more of Wayne and Waller.
broncobuster
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Neat if random to recreate this in live action,
Lights and Waves
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There it is!
cj_iwakura
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"Pussy."
I took it as it was implied it was Central City. They talk about how he moved from Australia to the US to rob more banks. Then he's caught by The Flash. He's shipped to Belle Reve as he's not housed there.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Superheroes having to fix their own problems instead of being proactive and fixing problems that other people create is a big problem with superhero movies.
I think it has a lot to do with Hollywood's need to tie everything together, going back to linking Batman and Joker's origins in Batman 89.
She murders her own staff in cold blood and is directly responsible for the deaths of thousands? Millions? She is evil alright. Worst of the worst.
Colonel Nasty
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Pretty meh, I feel like Deadshot and to a lesser extent Harley would be better in a different movie. The Joker felt like Leto doing a Jack Sparrow impersonation, complete with costumes. And Flagg was the worst in my opinion, some of his stuff was sooo cringeworthy. I can't believe it was almost Tom Hardy. Waller was fine, and everyone else was just kind of there. That third act was awful though.
Yup. He was probably at Iron Heights before being shipped.
I feel like Flag is... just a kind of there character
Even in the comics. He is the straight man to a bunch of loons. Not much to work with really. Guess could have gone full on patriotic
Charles Alan Ratliff
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Just got back from seeing this and thought it was a bad movie. Jared Leto's Joker is atrocious and the worst I've ever seen. I really hope we don't have to deal with him too much in future DC movies.
Margot Robbie was good, and I liked the parts with Batman. I really don't like what they did with Killer Croc, though. I'm surprised, as I went in expecting to enjoy it and like it more than most people.
Margot Robbie was good, and I liked the parts with Batman. I really don't like what they did with Killer Croc, though. I'm surprised, as I went in expecting to enjoy it and like it more than most people.
Colonel Nasty
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I didn't have a problem with some of the stuff in the middle when he was being an ass but some of his lines were awful. I guess that's not really the actors fault. But even Big Willy couldn't sell some of that.
Scrooge McDuck
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I think it would be much better for Captain Boomerang's characterization if he just bolted and never came back. It's not like he did anything noteworthy during the final sequence.
Said this in the other thread, but most of the team felt irrelevant at they end because they weren't meta humans which the movie kept harping on the importance of. Good characters overall but so little to do. Harley fighting a demon witch with a bat? Come on now.
Plot should've been smaller scale- city wide destruction not worldwide. Terror attack that turns citizens into creatures of sorts or something, Squad has to go in and sort it.
Making it a worldwide cataclysm with demon gods was laughable; another sky beam of all things too?
They should have made Katana be part of the special ops team Flagg was running to keep tabs on Enchantress. So she wouldn't feel so forced in. Then at least they would have a sort of history together.
I also can't believe Waller would keep this ancient dangerous artifact unprotected in her house.
Also, the worst use of Sympathy for the Devil I can think of. A little bit of subtlety could go a long way.
I also can't believe Waller would keep this ancient dangerous artifact unprotected in her house.
Also, the worst use of Sympathy for the Devil I can think of. A little bit of subtlety could go a long way.
Scrooge McDuck
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I think whether it's a small scale threat or otherwise is less important compared to making it feels like the Squad is truly in over their head fighting truly dangerous adversaries, which the film doesn't manage to do even with the doomsday scenario.
bananafactory
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So.... A few questions
What was the squads actual mission supposed to be before Enchantress went crazy and attacked those people in the subway? Like why did Waller assemble them? She kept saying it was 'need to know'
Why did Joker try to kill Harley then change his mind and dive after her? I didn't understand their relationship at all
What was the squads actual mission supposed to be before Enchantress went crazy and attacked those people in the subway? Like why did Waller assemble them? She kept saying it was 'need to know'
Why did Joker try to kill Harley then change his mind and dive after her? I didn't understand their relationship at all
They had no mission before, it was probably just defend people against any metahuman threat.
That's how it is for them. Joker is like, "poor fool", but then changes his mind realizing he grew to like her and dives with her. He sometimes love her and sometimes doesn't.
It was an okay film. But then again, I think the Transformers films are okay as well, but Suicide Squad wasn't nearly as fun to watch. Will Smith as Deadshot pretty much carried the film for me, Harley Quinn and Amanda Waller were good as well. But the rest of the characters were just "there". They didn't do anything worth mentioning and Slipknot was killed off like KGBeast in Assault on Arkham without doing anything noteworthy. Katana also barely had a character and felt like she didn't have to be in the movie at all. Same with the Joker's involvement in the main plot, which was a minor distraction at best.
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