That would be a bit odd. I think the son will outlive both parents, even though I also imagine him dying by the end of Ep 9.
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[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Thread #3) - That's Not How the Force Works
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That would be a bit odd. I think the son will outlive both parents, even though I also imagine him dying by the end of Ep 9.
Well, Anakin was hanging out with all the other ghosts at the end in Return of the Jedi. Unless you mean he had a change of heart after that bonfire.
Anakin is the Big Show of the Star Wars universe.
Lifejumper
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How did anakin achieve force ghost? Didnt obi wan and yoda train for it?
I hope there aren't moments in the following films where they obviously gimp force use. In previous movies and in TCW. I hate it when the most powerful of force users just forget they can use the force to solve a problem. Bad guy running away on foot? I'm gonna run after him like I forgot I can grab people with the force. Mad scientist tosses a virus container? Imma try and barely catch it by hand while he gets away because I plum forgot I can simply force pull objects toward me. Someone is hiding in a dark cavern... I'll just fumble around like an idiot because it's not like I can use the force to sense where they are.
Meanwhile Dooku gets the drop on 2 armed opponents. He simultaneously lifts one while force choking him and makes him draw his blaster to fire it at the second guy. Yoda also fucking embarrasses Asajj Ventress by turning off both her sabers and pulling them from her hands with only the force. She has no hope of fighting Yoda but she can take on both Anakin and Obi Wan at the same time like it ain't no thing...
This is the kind of stuff that really takes me out of Star Wars and I'm crossing my fingers that it's kept to a minimum in the new trilogy.
Meanwhile Dooku gets the drop on 2 armed opponents. He simultaneously lifts one while force choking him and makes him draw his blaster to fire it at the second guy. Yoda also fucking embarrasses Asajj Ventress by turning off both her sabers and pulling them from her hands with only the force. She has no hope of fighting Yoda but she can take on both Anakin and Obi Wan at the same time like it ain't no thing...
This is the kind of stuff that really takes me out of Star Wars and I'm crossing my fingers that it's kept to a minimum in the new trilogy.
Squall5042
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Anyone else Snoke would be awesome if he were really large? Before I knew he was a hologram I got chills
Kylo views Vader saving Luke as a moment of weakness. He's probably not interested in what Anakin ha to say.
As for how Anakin was able to become a ghost, Dave Filoni said that George told him the answer but he (Filoni) has chosen not to tell people. He hinted though that it may be related to his experience on Mortis, plus he's the Chosen One.
As for how Anakin was able to become a ghost, Dave Filoni said that George told him the answer but he (Filoni) has chosen not to tell people. He hinted though that it may be related to his experience on Mortis, plus he's the Chosen One.
GuitarAtomik
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I guess I can buy that. After watching The Clone Wars show, this has bothered me.
I am the perfect bride for Oscar Isaac.
I'm curious to see if we get a conflicted Force ghost. One of the concepts for Vader had been a ghost that was still torn by the dark side and the light. He was shown as being half human and half vaderish. It was pretty cool. I could see that working for Kylo since he is so torn by the two.
I thought he did that better than the PT tried it.
I thought he did that better than the PT tried it.
Emperor_Uriel
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Finally saw it, was very okay with everything.
I had no idea how much nostalgia I had for this series until Admiral Ackbar showed up, and I was like "Man, I had no idea that I wanted to see Admiral Ackbar again, but it turns out I really did."
Fin definitely has a more developed personality than Rey, but I imagine that her time with Luke will flesh out her character a bit more. Really hoping that he's as much of a master troll as Yoda was and Abrams provides her character with some humorous levity.
I had no idea how much nostalgia I had for this series until Admiral Ackbar showed up, and I was like "Man, I had no idea that I wanted to see Admiral Ackbar again, but it turns out I really did."
Fin definitely has a more developed personality than Rey, but I imagine that her time with Luke will flesh out her character a bit more. Really hoping that he's as much of a master troll as Yoda was and Abrams provides her character with some humorous levity.
DrForester
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I'd rather see it just be that Snoke is messing with his head. Given how terrible Anakin's turn to the Dark Side was, I don't want to see his force ghost conflicted.
Randolph Freelander
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Oh, it's definitely Snoke, if Ren thinks he's having interactions with Vader.
"That was Snoke the whole time?"
"Did you not see him using hand puppets? His lips were moving, for Pete's sake."
"I thought that was the Force. Vader using him."
No.
But from his dialogue it sounds like he felt something when he acquired Vader's helmet and remains. Perhaps similar to the vision that Rey had when she touched Luke's lightsaber for the first time.
Trigonometrize.
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I don't really like that idea because Anakin died unconflicted. He was happy that he was able to see the light in his final moments, that Luke was right, and he even wanted to take his mask off. I don't think it works that his ghost would come back and be all over the place when he didn't die on grey area terms.
Imperfected
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Gollum looked great, but the CGI Legolas that pops in and out during some of the action scenes is pretty terrible.
I don't think Anakin died conflicted. He purged Vader and died as himself. If he reappears and has the half Ani/half Vader thing going on, I think it would be better if they went less literal, more mystical with it - Anakin as a warning from the Force to Rey about what she could become or what Kylo is becoming. A harbinger sent by the Living Force. An embodiment of true balance, the real and natural dark side without abuse of it, but who shows how easily the balance can be tipped.
Basically some kind of space Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come. He has to atone for his sins by being the Force's messenger. You can set up a very interesting Dagobah cave-esque sequence this way.
Basically some kind of space Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come. He has to atone for his sins by being the Force's messenger. You can set up a very interesting Dagobah cave-esque sequence this way.
I mean if ghost Anakin was talking to Kylo then why isn't he telling Kylo to cut that shit out and grow up?
Yep, when the CG character is acted adn mocaped at the same time as the real actor, it comes out fine. Because you believe the interaction they are having.
Unlike anakin and grievous or Doku vs Yoda....euuuurrrgghhh
triplestation
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so i just saw episode 7
holy SHIT it was bad
i was expecting it to be at least decent through most of it but really it was all obligatory callbacks
heres an R2D2 imitation, heres the vader imitation, heres the deathstar imitation, heres C3PO remember him? if not he'll go ahead and say his own name FOR you
lets not forget to replay the old wise sounding star wars tune so you know what movie youre watching
this movie is like a terribly written fanfiction by like an 8 year old
nothing ever feels earned in this and everything is one dimentional
any of the prequels shuts this shit down by light years
holy SHIT it was bad
i was expecting it to be at least decent through most of it but really it was all obligatory callbacks
heres an R2D2 imitation, heres the vader imitation, heres the deathstar imitation, heres C3PO remember him? if not he'll go ahead and say his own name FOR you
lets not forget to replay the old wise sounding star wars tune so you know what movie youre watching
this movie is like a terribly written fanfiction by like an 8 year old
nothing ever feels earned in this and everything is one dimentional
any of the prequels shuts this shit down by light years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag1o3koTLWM
So, any opinion on the actual new stuff?
EDIT: Also
motifs are apparently a bad thing
totally. that's a much much better example of CGI that doesn't hold up
BuggyDClown
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This guy almost had me.
This is probably the best star wars ever made. Nice try though
Bobby Roberts
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The pendulum is swinging wildly at the moment
PrivateWHudson
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Was waiting for that last line. Well done leaving me in suspense until the very end. Missed opportunity to point out how slow and boring the Saber fight was though.
well memed
How do you feel about Rey tho
triplestation
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im kind of glad this movie exists now, actually
its the amazing spiderman for the star wars name
the amazing spiderman made us realize how awesome spiderman 3 actually is
now star wars 7 will serve to make us realize how awesome the prequels actually are
tonight im going to dream about jar jar taking a huge dump on JJ's forehead
what a hack
its the amazing spiderman for the star wars name
the amazing spiderman made us realize how awesome spiderman 3 actually is
now star wars 7 will serve to make us realize how awesome the prequels actually are
tonight im going to dream about jar jar taking a huge dump on JJ's forehead
what a hack
macfoshizzle
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i just learned that daniel craig played the stormtrooper rey did the mind trick on. jb-007
No.
Third best? Maybe.
Second best.
You're trying too hard now, man.
Behind Empire Strikes Back, yep.
Did it?
excelsiorlef
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Ohhhh boy more ridiculous hyperbole.
And if this is satire bravo cause it sounds like 6 or 7 people who've drove by these discussions
Astral Dog
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The more i think about new movie the more i have problems with it. Small problems, and the movie is still great, but problems none the less.
And so my friend saw the movie last night, and whenever i talked about any of the issues i had. I was the crazy one. To this person, the movie was 100% perfect.
I'm at a crossroads. Our friendship is in jeopardy. And I'm half joking when i say that.
And so my friend saw the movie last night, and whenever i talked about any of the issues i had. I was the crazy one. To this person, the movie was 100% perfect.
I'm at a crossroads. Our friendship is in jeopardy. And I'm half joking when i say that.
Fourth.
Astral Dog
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Say that you still love him
The One and Done
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Flawless victory
PrivateWHudson
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Lots of problems, but the good is so good that it makes up for them. I didn't like what JJ did to Trek, but I just shrug it off and don't accept it as cannon. With TFA, either he got better, was working with better people, or his style just works better within the star wars universe... for that, I'm willing to let go the little JJ'isms.
I cant love the ignorant.
One of my problems was that kanjiclan scene was a waste of talent. How do you cast the those badass actors and not have them display a little something. Especially when the kanjiclan are fighters.
But...nah Im the crazy one for thinking that.
I still loved the movie. But to say it was perfect.
Cmon son.
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