It's more like TFA Vs. Emperor Throne, Jabba's Palace, and Speede chase. Honestly I'm leaning towards the later.
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[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Thread #3) - That's Not How the Force Works
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Chuckie
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sixteen-bit
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Mendax
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wow, yes those are quite nice! And I guess the mediamarkt photo above was not about infinity toys then
lol you say false in every way ... then in Sweden...
But judging from different forums and persons I've talked to IRL, the two things that come back the most are "it's a rehash of episode IV" and "Kylo Ren sucks, he's weak and became lame after he removed the mask".
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Stop visiting shit forums. Also, "persons" don't mean jack shit.
Chuckie
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wow, yes those are quite nice! And I guess the mediamarkt photo above was not about infinity toys then
It was. But I am not sure what I am looking at. Besides Darth Maul and Darth Vader being sold out.
Lifejumper
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They say its a rehash, but they want kylo ren to be Vader? I think they are missing the point of Rens character.
I know, but it's certainly not an uncommon issue. I've heard/read it too many times to not be a concern.
Halcyon
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I'm imagining he's sitting on a bench at the mall looking at a group of teenagers standing in front of Hot Topic. Maybe they're constantly fidgeting with their fingerless gloves, when a middle aged woman leaves with a Kylo Ren Pop Figure. This causes nothing but smirks from the group as they collectively roll their eyes and mention how much of a wuss Kylo is. He shifts nervously on the bench in agreement, raises a finger and mumbles "i agree". Nobody hears him.
Mmm, I work with a lot of people every day at work and I've never heard that complaint about Kylo or the movie. Only overwhelming praise and "When are you going to see it again?" sort of thing.
Yeah pretty much.
Except I do like Kylo Ren ... but you guys are delusional if you don't see the many complaints about him.
You seem to have just shown up to the party.
All 3 of these Spoiler threads have been overwhelmingly positive.
Go ahead, and read though it.
Triggerhappytel
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But Hux is leader of a military base, so it makes sense that he's a general and not an admiral.
So these people just want him to be a straight retread of Vader? He's an interesting and conflicted character who already has far, far more depth than Vader did at a similar point in time. I think and hope he will grow to be a very powerful enemy, and I'd like to see his character have an arc. I want him to change from being immature and unsure of his powers to a completely badass and relentless Sith Lord.
I think that will almost happen but he'll turn back to the Light side and redeem himself.
He'll also die in the process ala Vader.
Negative review by whom?
Pretty much every serious review praised the character as being one of the best written/acted vilain they've seen since a while.
brandonh83
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He removed the mask revealing a more three dimensional character
Abrams and Kasdan, you fucking dumbasses.
Abrams and Kasdan, you fucking dumbasses.
Shuggananas
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Well, I mean, duh.
Sooooooo awesome.
#notspacenazis
Shuggananas
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#NotAllStormstroopers
RedSparrows
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Saw it, liked it, more I think about it the more disappointing it was, eh, I'll watch again, happily so.
In France at least, I seem to be the only person who liked him.
But go read theforce.net for example and all the people who call him an angsty emo teen. Even here on Gaf !
Its a meme dude.
There is even a meme on "Lonely Luke" too.
These overwhelmingly negative reviews you speak of that everyone in France have, and it potentially effecting sales of toys is truly unbelievably crazy town.
The Librarian
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Interfectum
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I think they fully planned on Kylo being a divisive character. They had no plans to create a "Darth Vader" for this movie and knew there would be blowback the second he took off his mask.
Well, I'm not the first person who said that. I even listened to some podcasters who thought he was the worst Star Wars villain ever (SMH .... ) and that he was apparently poorly received by the audiance and he even wondered if it would cause Disney to change their plans about him and put him in the background.
Interfectum
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lol wut
Kylo is basically the main character of this new trilogy. He's going to get even more screen time coming up.
The Lamonster
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This is pretty great. The artist really nailed the facial expressions.Epic
I guess I understand that some people wouldn't like the villain to be young or not fully trained. But, everyone I have seen the movie with and talked with about the movie loves Ren. He is essentially what Anakin in the prequels should have been.
Both my 8 year old and 6 year old nephews wanted to be Kylo as soon as the movie ended.
Bobby Roberts
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Is that fan art? Why is the Disney logo smack dead in the center of it
excelsiorlef
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Yes you are the only person in France who likes Kylo Ren
Someone complaining on the internet? Why I never!...
It's just people trying to be edgy and bring in clicks. While I'm not sure I was sold on his performance in a few scenes, the chericter is pretty awesomely conflicted, and that's good.
Book cover
Messypandas
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Sooooooo awesome.
I prefer how this was framed in the concept art, with the ties all aligned
So familiar but so fucking alien at the same time
I haven't met yet anybody IRL who said they didn't like Kylo. I guess being edgy doesn't pay that well outside internet and school.
Speaking of real life, I was shocked when my cousin called me yesterday evening telling me that he and his girlfriend saw the movie on 1st of January and they were discussing (3 days after) if Rey is Luke's daughter or not, so he wanted also my opinion on that. To put this in context, we almost never discuss about movies beyond "have you seen this or that?". Also he very rarely goes to the cinema to see a movie. JJ has created a monster.
Speaking of real life, I was shocked when my cousin called me yesterday evening telling me that he and his girlfriend saw the movie on 1st of January and they were discussing (3 days after) if Rey is Luke's daughter or not, so he wanted also my opinion on that. To put this in context, we almost never discuss about movies beyond "have you seen this or that?". Also he very rarely goes to the cinema to see a movie. JJ has created a monster.
Interfectum
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I rarely go to cinema anymore to see a movie (have a good setup at home) but I've seen Star Wars twice. My wife, who wasn't a SW fan at all before this movie, has been watching the old Star Wars movies (same thing goes for my 21 year old female cousin).
Shit is crazy.
Triggerhappytel
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If you're gonna keep saying this (even reiterating someone else's opinion) we're going to need to see some receipts. Because everything I've read about Kylo Ren including the 4-5 people I've spoken to about the film has been pretty positive about the film, and in particular the main four new characters.
And none of them are "Tie fighters in front of sunset shot" so the whole gallery is worthless.
JK, thanks for sharing. New background get.
Kylo Ren is leagues ahead of any of the prequel villains and to be quite honest he's way ahead of A New Hope Darth Vader as well.
Dubbedinenglish
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That shot seemed like such a shoe in. It wasn't even dusk when that happened.
I just saw the movie and yeah, Kylo's pretty interesting. I guess some people just want their dark wraithy ultimate badass at every turn. I like that too but too much of that would get boring.
I do love Maul for all of the aesthetic reasons. Speaking strictly about the movies, he's the ultimate tease.
I do love Maul for all of the aesthetic reasons. Speaking strictly about the movies, he's the ultimate tease.
Crossing Eden
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Those facial expressions are phenomenal.Epic
Oh, it made no sense whatsoever but it looked amazing so it did its job.
Also, seeing as everyone's talking about Kylo, I'll trow in my two cents and say that Kylo was easily my favorite movie villain in last couple of years. Easily better than every prequel villain and better than almost every Marvel villain.
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