DragonSworne
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Rey is Snoke'a daughter and Snoke is a Kenobi. Or not. But Rey is definitely Snoke's daughter.
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[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Thread #3) - That's Not How the Force Works
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Interfectum
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What if Rey is Snoke's mother?
Bobby Roberts
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You could. Sure.
no, Rey's mother is Luke
Clone Wars Spolier you have been warned.
Satine can't have had a kid with Kenobi as she died too soon after they ended their affair.
Its perfectly possible he fathered a child between ROTS and ANH though.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Maybe.
Not necessarily.
The Force isn't like a blinking alarm beacon, blaring all the time. You have to turn it on. And you have to turn it on near someone who knows what to look for.
Jar Jar is the father.
Interfectum
Member
Does anyone think Obi Wan and Padme did some sexy time in secret? Probably spent one evening talking shit about Anakin over some drinks and then...
I think its unfair to call sexism in this particular case. The movie is lacking an establishing scene which we see Rey's ability to fly or at the least, her knowledge of it.
You make a comparison to Luke suddenly able to fly an X-Wing but you overlook the fact that he had a "T-16 back home" and we even see it in the background in his second scene in ANH. He even holds a model and "plays" maneuvers with it.
Rey on the other hand, shows no inclination/knowledge of flying at all prior to the moment she announces that she is in fact a pilot.
I can't comment much on TPM as I last saw that film in the theaters when it originally released and I refuse to bother with it again. Even so, I do recall that we are introduced to Anakin as a podracer (pilot) and so when he jumps into a ship, it "somewhat" makes sense.
I always kind of got the impression a super force-sensitive person kind of was a blinking alarm, at least in the original trilogy. Vader sensed Obi-Wan in A New Hope and wasn't even really looking for him, same with sensing how strong with the Force Luke was. In Return of the Jedi, Vader manages to sense Luke's presence on the shuttle and Luke immediately fears that he jeopardized the mission because he knew Vader (and probably the Emperor) could sense him through the Force.
I actually liked the idea that a powerful Jedi could actually be a hindrance to a stealth mission in the right scenarios.
That probably want to avoid cuckolding a popular character. Also no.
TFA is more like modern WWE, with fans rejecting the 2nd, and 3rd generation stars, in favor of the old guard(who are the real draws), and the only one of the new stars that's getting over is someone new that isn't a 2nd, and 3rd generation superstar(Finn) that the promoter(Disney) doesn't see as a main eventer.
I'm still guessing she's a Skywalker. That's what my gut tells me though.
Luke might've loosened the Jedi rules a bit? Who knows. In the now non-canon Universe he married Mara Jade and had children. Same rules could still apply to the new movies. He could have had a romance with someone ... which died during the Massacre of Luke's Academy. I mean, it's not like Jedi's grow on trees.
Rey being a Kenobi does not make sense at all. Even if Obi-Wan conceived a kid between ROTS and ANH that would make Rey (if Obi-Wan is her father) 30+ years old. She doesn't really look that old to be fair. Grandchild? That's possible. But even so, Darth Vader was hunting Jedi's all over the place. I'm sure he would've noticed. Seeing his hatred towards Obi-Wan and anything (and everyone) close to him.
Luke might've loosened the Jedi rules a bit? Who knows. In the now non-canon Universe he married Mara Jade and had children. Same rules could still apply to the new movies. He could have had a romance with someone ... which died during the Massacre of Luke's Academy. I mean, it's not like Jedi's grow on trees.
Rey being a Kenobi does not make sense at all. Even if Obi-Wan conceived a kid between ROTS and ANH that would make Rey (if Obi-Wan is her father) 30+ years old. She doesn't really look that old to be fair. Grandchild? That's possible. But even so, Darth Vader was hunting Jedi's all over the place. I'm sure he would've noticed. Seeing his hatred towards Obi-Wan and anything (and everyone) close to him.
TFA is more like the Attitude Era stars who broke out in popularity while still in the shadows of the older guard of Macho Man, Hogan, etc.
The prequels are post-2000 WCW.
Modern WWE is the Holiday Special
Bobby Roberts
Banned
no it isnt.
But Vader & Ben already knew each other. And both knew what that felt like through the force. There's a familiarity there, same with Luke and Vader in Jedi.
That wouldn't be there between a Force user a couple systems away and a kid who doesn't even know they have it.
Vader sensed Obi-Wan.
Vader sensed Luke on the shuttle in ROTJ.
The Emperor did not.
So yeah, it might not be a beacon. Maybe it works if the person himself has a strong connection to the other? Obi-Wan being Vader's master and Luke being his son. Same applies to TFA. Ben Solo sensed his father.
Inferno313
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WELL YOU SEE POE IS LIKE FINNS WAIFU AND
why not? lemme think about it
Heroic Age, perhaps?
Legend of the Galactic Heroes seems to be a tad too complex for SW.
The Emperor told Vader he knew Luke was there
Medichloreans are the Star Wars equivalents to DBZ scouters
So the Star Wars Stories movies are just filler arcs, right?
Sapiens
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Wesley crusher is a boy and he wasn't spared.
I have to rewatch ROTJ then. Because I remember a piece of dialogue that the Emperor didn't sense Luke's presence on Endor.
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Darth Vader: A small rebel force has penetrated the shield and landed on Endor.
The Emperor: Yes, I know.
Darth Vader: My son is with them.
The Emperor: Are you sure?
Darth Vader: I have *felt* him, my master.
The Emperor: Strange that I have not. I wonder if your feelings on this matter are clear, Lord Vader.
Darth Vader: They are clear, my master.
Wanna bet we are getting this dialogue in Episode 8?
Rey : "... did you know my mother?"
Luke : "She died while you where very young"
Rey : "What happened to her?"
Luke : "A young Jedi named Ben Solo, who was a young pupil of mine until he turned to evil, helped the Knights of Ren hunt down and destroy my students. He betrayed and murdered your mother"
That sounds entirely too plausible, kindly don't do this
Interfectum
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Fancy Clown
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Scust at placing Jedi above New Hope or TFA, but other than that you ain't too heathenous
TFA is like Dragon Ball GT. A loving tribute to the older works in the series that ends with the death of a beloved character.
Rey being a Kenobi doesn't have to be explained in details in this trilogy. That would actually make the already announced Obi Wan Kenobi movie even more interesting.
As for why don't the other force users feel that the mother or the father of Rey is force sensitive, do they even feel it with Leia (outside of knowing her family roots)? Rey's father or mother could very well be like Leia, in the sense that they would have never really used the force in a way that made them "visible" for the other.
Rey could be also related to nobody in the OT.
Rey being Luke's daughter would contradict the whole speech of Maz in TFA. Not to mention all the negative impact on Luke's character.
As for why don't the other force users feel that the mother or the father of Rey is force sensitive, do they even feel it with Leia (outside of knowing her family roots)? Rey's father or mother could very well be like Leia, in the sense that they would have never really used the force in a way that made them "visible" for the other.
Rey could be also related to nobody in the OT.
Rey being Luke's daughter would contradict the whole speech of Maz in TFA. Not to mention all the negative impact on Luke's character.
She'd be his granddaughter.
Since when is an accent, or language for that matter, genetic?...
TheOfficeMut
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I'm really expecting a big-ass "I am your father" moment in Episode 8. Gonna be a looooong wait. Although not as long as TFA though.
I hope Luke atleast ignites his lightsaber in Episode 8 ... even if its just for Rey's training. The sound the green saber makes is one of a kind. Kinda hoping Luke stays alive once Episode IX is concluded though. Have him become the true Jedi Master/Lord and have Rey take on apprentice(s) of her own.
Makes you wonder HOW the entire Light vs Dark-side ordeal is going to end. There's always a threat.
That's true. Thats my bad. Even though I'm born in Holland I could very well grow up and have a thick American accent.
I hope Luke atleast ignites his lightsaber in Episode 8 ... even if its just for Rey's training. The sound the green saber makes is one of a kind. Kinda hoping Luke stays alive once Episode IX is concluded though. Have him become the true Jedi Master/Lord and have Rey take on apprentice(s) of her own.
Makes you wonder HOW the entire Light vs Dark-side ordeal is going to end. There's always a threat.
That's true. Thats my bad. Even though I'm born in Holland I could very well grow up and have a thick American accent.
guys have you heard this theory that snoke is vader???
Nah, Vader wasn't 7 feet tall.
Interfectum
Member
That's your point of view.
maybe he's a modified vader clone or something
guys have you heard this theory that snoke is vader???
He also very clearly died.
Imperfected
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What do you think all the "Rey could never beat Kylo, her Jedi Power Level isn't high enough until she trains with Master Luke!" faff is about?
(Though admittedly, some people have thankfully tried to have that discussion from the actual perspective of why her beating him doesn't work in the narrative sense rather than from some goofy anime battle chart perspective. I don't agree with them, necessarily, but it's appreciated nonetheless.)
DiipuSurotu
Banned
So Ben is Rey's mother?
I wanna knowwww it's so interesting
Cloning wouln't carry over Vader's physical injuries.guys have you heard this theory that snoke is vader???
Think Ben is refering to the Force. The Light Side calling to them both...
anger of course
shortsFortallPeople
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Space Voldemort was weak as hell in TFA. I would've preferred a non-CG performance for him since I couldn't take that crappy CG seriously
SirMossyBloke
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Why is the scar very damned close then? Not that I think it is Vader, but damn, they shouldn't have had Snoke have an almost identical scar.
Interfectum
Member
Calling it: Snoke is Lando.
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