• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

Spring 2011 Anime Thread of ZAWA ZAWA, Money, emo Cyclops, and fun^10xint^40=Ir2

Status
Not open for further replies.

tiff

Banned
Nichijou 3 - Rock paper scissors scene kills me every time but on the whole the first two episodes were better.
 

Instro

Member
EmmanuelMunoz said:
Has anyone watched A-Chanel Ep. 2? I did not love the first episode but it seemed moderately interesting so i am curious how it went


Slightly better than the first episode. Still mediocre, but with more lesbian stuff.
 

Dresden

Member
flawfuls said:
Isn't it a two season show?
Really? I always thought it was scheduled for a single season. I don't think they have enough material for two seasons, anyways.
cosmicblizzard said:
Well that's still disheartening. I don't know why they do this shit with short shows. They could at least wait a few episodes before breaking off from the manga storyline unless they want to go fully original.

Whatever, I'm gonna try to go in it with as little bias as possible since I haven't read the manga. May still like it.
Who knows, the filler stuff might be good.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
FlyingTeacup said:
which is the funniest, besides gintama? I watched dororon, it wasn't very funny.
I like wordy comedy, but I realize that most people don't... I think the only show I think that sort of fits into the Gintama style of comedy that came out recently is Squid Girl/Ika Musume.
 
Blue Exorcist 1

I liked it, but I'm gonna need to see more before deciding if I'll see it through to the end or just start the manga. Guy with that hat in the preview has a cool-ass design at least.
 

NewFresh

Member
Instro said:
Slightly better than the first episode. Still mediocre, but with more lesbian stuff.
Joule said:
I guess it was a little more amusing than the first ep but it's pretty much the same standard gags. There was more lesbian subtext even if it's not very subtle at all. Also one of the girls got a face full of Wii controllers.
Sounds like it's worth a watch still. ~ Thanks
 

Lafiel

と呼ぶがよい
zeroshiki said:
Hanasaku Iroha 03

Great episode! I foresee more converts to Team Ohana today.

Actually i can see some people being disappointed in this episode, who had the expectation of this show being a full-on drama, Anohana will probably be closer to that then HanIro, so we might see some converts to AnoHana. (sadly)

In fact i was checking other sites and there's already some disappointment in the episode!

Hanasaku Iroha kind of blew its chances at being a 'family' show by showing as much about the ero novel as they did. I think they could have gotten away with just saying stuff from it without visuals.
Hah I'm actually watching the show with my family to! doesn't bother me at all though, since it was tastefully done in a sense, but it does prove that the show really is a seinen according to what this site tagged it as.
 

Paprikka

Member
Blue Exorcist - Yeah the first episode has a bit of filler so it ends right after the priest shows up and exorcises the possessed bully. It wasn't terrible or anything though so I'll at least watch the next few episodes.
 

Jerk

Banned
zeroshiki said:
The first episode was excellent. At first you find her annoying but eventually, as it dawns on you what happened and then the confession scene and the scene with her family, the waves of sadness hit. Excellently manipulative. The bastards.

If I wasn't firmly on Team Ohana, I'd be flying the Mono no Aware flag. But Alas.

Team Ohana?

Why are there any teams?
 

Risette

A Good Citizen
AnoHana related: Am I the only one bothered by the fact that Menma
can apparently touch real things, as that girl who gives the main guy papers said she felt her neck being weighed down when Menma was hugging her? Plus she picked those flowers that landed on the main guy when she fell.

Couldn't the main guy just lead all the friends and her parents to a sandbox and let her draw messages or something.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
icarus-daedelus said:
I don't want to make anyone feel bad, so - I watched it and you didn't, so technically you're still ahead of me in the dignity stakes!

Although I think pretty much everyone is now. Gotta watch Sex Manual for 30 Year Olds and Lotte no Omocha to complete my debasement for the season, and then never commit myself to watching everything at least once -again-.
The 30 Year Old thing seems fairly innocuous. It basically feels like a tamer version of 40 Year Old Virgin.

FlyingTeacup said:
thanks for all suggestions!

watched two series lately, kore wa zombie, seitokai yakuindom,o baka no test, which are pretty good...
Ah, speaking of which, the Seitokai Yakuindomo OVA was mostly more of the same. I forgot that the show was mostly girls making sense jokes. I guess that dissonance is still mildly funny, but after Hen Zemi, I'm totally immune to PG-rated sex jokes.


Lafiel said:
Actually i can see some people being disappointed in this episode, who had the expectation of this show being a full-on drama, Anohana will probably be closer to that then HanIro, so we might see some converts to AnoHana. (sadly)

In fact i was checking other sites and there's already some disappointment in the episode!
I really don't see how anyone would have thought the show would have any dramatic streaks in it though. The first two episodes pretty much poured on the sentimentality to the point where you couldn't help but assume this was going to be a happyhappy show.

The fanservice was a bit out of place though. It was tasteful, and the first time they cut away, it was somewhat amusing, but even so...
 

Jex

Member
Lafiel said:
Actually i can see some people being disappointed in this episode...In fact i was checking other sites and there's already some disappointment in the episode!
Well that comes as no surprise, I'm let down by the internet again!
Aigis said:
AnoHana related: Couldn't the main guy just lead all the friends and her parents to a sandbox and let her draw messages or something.
I brought that up in the main thread, and yes, assuming that we are actually seeing things as they really are and it's not some kind of unreliable narrator.
 

Lafiel

と呼ぶがよい
I really don't see how anyone would have thought the show would have any dramatic streaks in it though. The first two episodes pretty much poured on the sentimentality to the point where you couldn't help but assume this was going to be a happyhappy show.
They are some dramatic overtones throughout the series so far though, but they haven't made it the forefront of the show, which is the kind of tone i prefer, so I'm pleased!
 

Dresden

Member
Jerk said:
Team Ohana?

Why are there any teams?
Because Ohana is awesome.

ikuKoA.gif


Hanasaku Iroha: that kind of anime.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
Lafiel said:
They are some dramatic overtones throughout the series so far though, but they haven't made it the forefront of the show, which is the kind of tone i prefer, so I'm pleased!
Even if you forget the rest of the production and focus on the plot, being abandoned by her mother should be the worst thing to happen to her and it's played off as a joke...
 

Branduil

Member
I doubt that kind of fanservice will become a regular part of the show. It was mainly to show the kind of hack the writer
anime fandom
is.
 

Lafiel

と呼ぶがよい
firehawk12 said:
Even if you forget the rest of the production and focus on the plot, being abandoned by her mother should be the worst thing to happen to her and it's played off as a joke...
I think the flashbacks indicate they are taking it seriously in a sense, as the portrayal of her mother isn't exactly positive you know.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
Branduil said:
I doubt that kind of fanservice will become a regular part of the show. It was mainly show the kind of hack the writer
anime fandom
is.
Well, even Aria had one beach episode (even though they wore real swimsuits and not string bikinis)!
 

Jex

Member
Aoi Hana 7

Dealing with a relationship as it naturally progresses? It's strange that one of the only shows that I've seen to tackle this would be a lesbian one. Strange in that anime has a million heterosexual romance centric shows, and a few 'yuri' ones, so you'd think that we'd have plenty of hetereosexual romance shows with this kind of content, but they all end when one person asks the other person out. Ah well.

Ideooooooooooooon 1

Here we go!
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
Lafiel said:
I think the flashbacks indicate they are taking it seriously in a sense, as the portrayal of her mother isn't exactly positive you know.
Yeah, but she isn't exactly the mother from Aishiteru ze Baby or anything. She's more like the "herp derp" parents form Hayate the Combat Butler.

I mean, the other "angst" moment was when the childhood friend confesses his feelings to Ohana and even that isn't like, slit your wrists Toradora level angst. It just happens and both characters move on, Voices of a Distant Star style.
 

BluWacky

Member
7Th said:
Shows I'm expecting to remember once they're over: nothing
Shows I'm expecting to enjoy, at least during their run: Tiger & Bunny, Enma-kun, HanaIro, AnoHana, X-Men
Shows I'm watching because I have nothing better to do: Nichijou
Shows I'm not watching: everything else

Did you really not like C, 7th? I thought Nakamura's direction elevated it above the poor art (clearly Toei have been working on One Piece for too long) and the writing was half decent at least. It's hardly what I'd think of as a Noitamina show, though, and I guess it has none of the things that made Bakemono/Mononoke interesting in it at all.
 
firehawk12 said:
Yeah, but she isn't exactly the mother from Aishiteru ze Baby or anything. She's more like the "herp derp" parents form Hayate the Combat Butler.

I mean, the other "angst" moment was when the childhood friend confesses his feelings to Ohana and even that isn't like, slit your wrists Toradora level angst. It just happens and both characters move on, Voices of a Distant Star style.

Being fair he finally sent back a fucking message so the show is still acknowledging his existence.



BluWacky said:
Did you really not like C, 7th? I thought Nakamura's direction elevated it above the poor art (clearly Toei have been working on One Piece for too long) and the writing was half decent at least. It's hardly what I'd think of as a Noitamina show, though, and I guess it has none of the things that made Bakemono/Mononoke interesting in it at all.

the hype got to him again lol
 

Lafiel

と呼ぶがよい
Infinite Justice said:
Being fair he finally sent back a fucking message so
Considering he's being mentioned in like every episode past 1 so far, I'm expecting him to appear in the series somehow later on!
 

Jerk

Banned
duckroll said:
Because Ohana is superior to Menma.

icarus-daedelus said:
Ohana is also superior to Jintan, comparing protags by their first episodes, though there's nothing clearly wrong with him [other than being crazy but at least he recognizes it] yet. So that's a plus I suppose.

Who the hell are these people? Should I care?

Also:

Hanasaku Iroha 3

This is totally not the sort of thing that I normally watch, but I cannot help my self. If only they would change that damn OP...
 

Jex

Member
Lafiel said:
Considering he's being mentioned in like every episode past 1 so far, I'm expecting him to appear in the series somehow later on!
Maybe he'll be some kind of ghost that solves peoples problems!
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
Infinite Justice said:
Being fair he finally sent back a fucking message so the show is still acknowledging his existence.
I swear he's in the OP, but it could be another guy. Anime dudes all look the same I guess.

Lafiel said:
Considering he's being mentioned in like every episode past 1 so far, I'm expecting him to appear in the series somehow later on!
Which is why I made the Voices of a Distant Star reference. :lol

Also, it's very Aria like if you consider that every episode of that ended with an email being sent.
 

Lain

Member
Lafiel said:
Considering he's being mentioned in like every episode past 1 so far, I'm expecting him to appear in the series somehow later on!
Only to get (mistakenly) cut down, I hope.
 

Dresden

Member
Childhood friend commits suicide, returns to haunt his crush?

That's some drama right there. Add in lots of father-issues and you could almost have Mass Effect.
 

Jex

Member
firehawk12 said:
I swear he's in the OP, but it could be another guy. Anime dudes all look the same I guess.
He is, but it looks like a flashback to Tokyo. It stills seems relevant, it's not like they're going to let that plot thread dangle with 26 episodes to spare.
 

jman2050

Member
The first episode of AnoHana gave me Bridge to Terabithia vibes, although not anywhere near as engaging. That would actually be a good thing if that was actually the story and not merely the setup.
 
Clannad 02 - Yeah, the main character's pretty broken isn't he. His relationship with his father is really bad, the guy's usually a jobless drunk and even when he does sort of try his son just gets angry at him and flees the house.

During this episode this main character goes between broken, being a jerk, and being a generic harem protagonist. He covers all three at different points, it is a little odd. The generic harem comedy parts are decently done if generic, but that's most of the show so far, so I can't say much about the drama side.

Instro said:
Generally speaking the first season a lot of harem type stuff mixed with some drama, the 2nd season is pretty much all drama and overall significantly better than season 1. I think what separates the protagonist of Clannad from Air and Kanon is that his growth and change as a character is pretty significant and relatively well paced over the course of the 2 seasons. Also what I liked about Clannad vs the other two is that basically every major character in the show has their backstory's pretty well fleshed out by the end of the show.
Well Clannad is 4 times longer than Kanon 2002 or Air and twice as long as Kanon 2006, I'd hope that it would have more character development in all that additional time...

Longer doesn't necessarily make things better, though.

KuwabaraTheMan said:
The student/teacher thing may seem creepy, but pretty much everything we see of Fujitaka indicates that he really is the perfect father, and not the type of person who would take advantage of such a relationship. I think they're just trying to make a point that if two people love each other, why should it matter what society thinks of that relatonship? Yeah, not allowing students and teachers to date (or marry) is logical, and I'm not going to argue it should be different, but I get the point they're trying to make.
But it doesn't matter if they love eachother, it's pretty much impossible for such a relationship to not exploitative in some way. That's my point, "love conquers all" is a very flawed premise in this case.

doomed1 said:
Heh, it might just be guilt. I mean, imagine you were some aloof self-righteous young teacher, and a high school girl falls for you. Cool story bro! You hit that? Hi-fives everywhere! What's this? she wants to marry? Eh, seems sorta clingy, but hey, maybe this way I won't get fired if people find out! Also, free poon! And then... Shit, she died? And now you have two kids? Rough time bro, now I sorta feel bad convincing you to tap dat...

Basically, I think it's a sort of interesting reading to frame Fujitaka as a man who is driven by guilt to be the perfect father, that his late wife's death drove him to be the man that she "saw" and as thus, Sakura sees with the best of her memory and Toya being too young to really understand. The narrative that Sakura hears is a romanticism of what happened between them. Technically "true" in most respects, but from a point of view that wouldn't be utterly traumatizing to a normal 10yo girl. By all respects, Fujitaka is that perfect father to Sakura, but he hasn't remarried nor dated nor done anything to try and put a positive female role model in his children's life. This isn't the behavior of the "perfect widower father", this is the behavior of a man wracked with guilt, but knows better than to show it to his children!

Or am I reading to much into this? :p
It would be so awesome if that was the actual explanation... that one's actually realistic. :)

mAcOdIn said:
Now since I sin less will my stay in hell be better or will it be worse since I know what a grave sin it is to like Sora no Woto? Hmm????
Oh come on, look at his list there. Star Driver, better than SnW? Yeah, you quite overstate things here to say the least.

mAcOdIn said:
He'll probably pick Ta
n
tami Galaxy.
What's that spoiler about? Haven't watched that series.

It's rare I actively try and hurt myself, I don't feel like it right now, I've already comitted myself to Glass Fleet once I'm done migrating everything on my PC.
So only one show you dislike at a time, then, you mean? :)

Lol, so, but it could be better! This is what I'm talking about with Gonzo, you're so happy for them to just aim for mediocrity when greatness is so close, I like to dream bigger.
Last Exile is way better than mediocre.

I dunno! I think some of it was to flesh out some of the concepts, like we didn't know really what a Kirin was so they showed us one "growing up" but just somewhere else, but it seems like they followed the order of the novels so I don't think it's the anime's fault. As for some of the other stuff, like King En's arc, it does somewhat tie into Youko's but I think there was more of a theme than a story with The Twelve Kingdoms that makes everything not related still related, almost as if a message rather than a single story was meant to be conveyed, I dunno how to put it.
Hmm, perhaps. I'm not sure. If having the stories was necessary, though, it could have been presented better. Fantasy series often have multiple viewpoints, but most modern fantasy series and movies do it by alternating between them, not by having big blocks with each one. It's a better design because it keeps things moving without bogging you down for too long in any one storyline if you like one less. The Lord of the Rings books did stick with each group for a long time, but the genre in general has not followed that lead, and indeed even the LotR movies changed things to go to the more standard frequent-switches approach, which I think is better.

Now, sure, you could say that the nature of the sidestories in The Twelve Kingdoms would make that approach harder, but still, I'm sure there's a way that it could have been done.

It's few major flaws were pretty major though, in a decent season Sora no Woto has no right being highly ranked so Sora no Woto's biggest asset was nothing on it's part but the below average quality of it's competition.
It did have flaws, but no, it was better than that.

Still, I ain't going to like them.
You can say that on a probable basis, but not without certainty unless you watch it.

Oh and I gotta know, Iroha or AnoHana?
Didn't I say already? Nichijou! :)

(Again though, on that comparison it'll have to wait a bit until I can watch AnoHana.)
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
Jexhius said:
He is, but it looks like a flashback to Tokyo. It stills seems relevant, it's not like they're going to let that plot thread dangle with 26 episodes to spare.
I expect him to come visit anyway - it seems like they're setting that up slowly by reminding us of his presence.

Oh, and maybe Princess Curls girl is only a figment of her imagination... she's the ghost of her mother, come back in school girl form!
 

dimb

Bjergsen is the greatest midlane in the world
Episode 2 of Hen Zemi has done a lot to restore my faith in the TV version. Much, much better.
 

Lafiel

と呼ぶがよい
BluWacky said:
Did you really not like C, 7th? I thought Nakamura's direction elevated it above the poor art (clearly Toei have been working on One Piece for too long) and the writing was half decent at least. It's hardly what I'd think of as a Noitamina show, though, and I guess it has none of the things that made Bakemono/Mononoke interesting in it at all.
I think at this point it's really hard to judge whether the show will be more interesting than mononoke or not. The second episode will probably make or break the show at this point, but the first episode definitely had me intrigued in what potential directions they are going take the series in.
 

Lafiel

と呼ぶがよい
It's not going to be more interesting than Mononoke, unless you mean like "potentially interesting failure" type of interesting. You can quote me on that later if you'd like! :p
Sure when you turn out to be wrong, and the show ends up to be a another nakamura masterpiece.:p
 

Erigu

Member
[Puella Magi Madoka Magica]
doomed1 said:
The universe doesn't "LOSE" energy in entropy, energy cannot be lost! And yet, the death of the universe is coming because the universe is losing energy in entropy. This is bad science.
Not a specialist (so please correct me if I'm wrong), but I believe it's correct in the sense that energy (overall) is conserved, yes, but free energy isn't, because of entropy (hence the heat death of the universe). And I'd assume Kyubey is interested in free energy, not unusable energy.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom