InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Welp making the Steins;Gate OT while I'm waiting for it.
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Spring 2011 Anime Thread of ZAWA ZAWA, Money, emo Cyclops, and fun^10xint^40=Ir2
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You haven't seen Super Dimensional fortress macross right? you could always give that a view, it's probably one of the best examples of space opera anime even with the j-pop and all. (it's no-where near as good as the shows you listed though.icarus-daedelus said:
And a friend was telling me about irresistible captain tylor today, although that is a comedy series.
Hellsing321
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Hanasaku Iroha
Wow that was a really great first episode. Hope it keeps the quality throughout the season. This is shaping up to be one of the best season in years.
Wow that was a really great first episode. Hope it keeps the quality throughout the season. This is shaping up to be one of the best season in years.
lordfroakie
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Steins Gate Ep 1
What the hell did I just watch? So confused...
What the hell did I just watch? So confused...
vectorman06 said:
Well I haven't watched Steins Gate but since it is from the same writer as Chaos Head be prepared to be confused for quite a bit.
I don't plan to watch it either btw, I'll play the vn one day though. After having played the Chaos Head vn I watched the anime adaption and I see no reason to watch Steins Gate.
It will probably be a horrible vn adaption just like Chaos Head was.
I started Infinite Ryvius last week as well but am only on episode 3, it just isn't really clicking for me. And I think I've seen you gripe on it but the music is just really bad and out of place.icarus-daedelus said:
I've convinced myself that everyone is watching it just to guilt me into watching it but I know the world doesn't really revolve around me, still dreading completing Glass Fleet none the less.icarus-daedelus said:
Mr Nash
square pies = communism
Sebulon3k said:
I guess the other thing he could be in the show is some sort of life line when she's stressed out with her grandmother, because he mom sure doesn't seem like much help. We'd also need to find out just how far apart the two are. Is it as easy as a simple train visit away, or would it be a hike for him to go visit her? I don't think the show has spelled out how far she moved, besides it being far enough that she'd need to change schools. We'll see. It sounds like the show is more about Ohana getting used to her new life, so I'm having trouble seeing Ko playing a huge roll at this point.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Well so far it has gotten some positive feedback, but I haven't seen it yet. I've read a bit of the VN so I should be able to put this in perspective a bit.Rektash said:
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Pretty much why I bought the game recently! So wait if you wish.Rektash said:Input is very welcome. It won't change my plans to play the game first though
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
Tiger and Bunny 1:
Well, that was pretty good. There were a lot of really funny moments, but also some great sincere moments along the way. The first episode did a great job setting up the world and the characters, which I think is important. I'll be keeping my eye on this one.
Well, that was pretty good. There were a lot of really funny moments, but also some great sincere moments along the way. The first episode did a great job setting up the world and the characters, which I think is important. I'll be keeping my eye on this one.
InfiniteNine said:
Definitly waiting since I have quite a big vn backlog atm. Remember 11 still lying around unplayed and recently bought the DVD batch releases of Umineko. 999 is still unplayed too.
Too much I want to play and too little time because of university. I am in no rush though since Chaos Head is quite fresh in my mind, finished it about 1 year ago or something.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Steins;Gate OT up!
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=26902653
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=26902653
A Black Falcon
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mAcOdIn - I'll reply to that post soon, but if you've been reading my and Geneijin's IS posts in the last few pages, what do you think of my theory that
1) IS has awful writers. They're trying to make a show that makes sense and has a consistent plot, and planned things out ahead of time, but they consistently fail because of how bad they are.
2) IS's writers just don't care and are making up stuff as they go along.
It could be either of these really. And I know that it's based off of a light novel series, but I don't know how good those are, so depending on that this could apply to the novel's writer (if the anime is just like them) or the anime's (if it's different).
As for a reply to that quote:
(better, in comparison to the other shows on this list)
Daimao
Samurai Girls
Infinite Stratos
(more talked about)
Koihime Musou would go on top of that list (above Daimao) if it counted, because it's based off of a harem h-game, but the male main character guy isn't in the anime, so it sort of doesn't.
the white-haired girl in Ichika's unconcious dream might be the "spirit" of Byakushiki, his IS?
Geneijin said:
Perhaps so. Is there actually a clear time when Byakushiki moved on its own in the series, though, or is it just a reference to something new we didn't know about? Oh well... in this series who knows.
As far as plot goes, I think that one of the two following things is true:
1) IS has awful writers. They're trying to make a show that makes sense and has a consistent plot, and planned things out ahead of time, but they consistently fail because of how bad they are.
2) IS's writers just don't care and are making up stuff as they go along.
It could be either of these really. And I know that it's based off of a light novel series, but I don't know how good those are, so depending on that this could apply to the novel's writer (if the anime is just like them) or the anime's (if it's different).
As for a reply to that quote:
Laura's IS transformation is just like Chifuyu's? Either they did it to not have to make a new animation, or yeah it has something to do with Tabane, the cores, etc.
Also, so if it's the basis of IS, then where does Byakushiki come from? Did Tabane invent it but she doesn't know what she invented, or are you implying that it's some alien artifact or something...
Also, so if it's the basis of IS, then where does Byakushiki come from? Did Tabane invent it but she doesn't know what she invented, or are you implying that it's some alien artifact or something...
Just another mark of its great quality! But seriously, perhaps because it's often easier to criticize than praise? I don't know why really, you people just want to talk about it. The worse the show, the more people want to discuss it? I mean, in 2010-11 action harem shows, quality and volume of discussion seem to have a somewhat inverse relationship...
(better, in comparison to the other shows on this list)
Daimao
Samurai Girls
Infinite Stratos
(more talked about)
Koihime Musou would go on top of that list (above Daimao) if it counted, because it's based off of a harem h-game, but the male main character guy isn't in the anime, so it sort of doesn't.
Crash Station
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Mai-Hime 5
Starting to see glimpses of when things apparently get bad. And once again, the Madoka comparisons pop up, albeit much lighter. Being Hime is indeed suffering.
Starting to see glimpses of when things apparently get bad. And once again, the Madoka comparisons pop up, albeit much lighter. Being Hime is indeed suffering.
Iroha 01
That was incredibly solid, Jesus. The writing was so on point, even though I find it kind of funny how they used her writermother as a method to justify her almost novelesque speech mannerisms. Growing up in such the environment rubbed off on her, haha.
Production was almost awing at points, and the direction failed to falter.
Show of the season, so far.
And Crunchyroll has earned a subscription. Not only is their catalog on point this season, their mobile app works beautifully. I just watched this whole EP while out, and it never fcked once. A few more features would be nice though.
Typing on a phone bites...though, Gingerbread has made it much nicer.
That was incredibly solid, Jesus. The writing was so on point, even though I find it kind of funny how they used her writermother as a method to justify her almost novelesque speech mannerisms. Growing up in such the environment rubbed off on her, haha.
Production was almost awing at points, and the direction failed to falter.
Show of the season, so far.
And Crunchyroll has earned a subscription. Not only is their catalog on point this season, their mobile app works beautifully. I just watched this whole EP while out, and it never fcked once. A few more features would be nice though.
Typing on a phone bites...though, Gingerbread has made it much nicer.
Glass Fleet 9
Opening monologue could be referencing watching this show.
Awesome photograph.
The costume designer really should win some kind of award.
Vetti faceplanting into the roses would make another awesome gif.
So Vetti finally reveals his true goal... and it's even stupider than I imagined.
Opening monologue could be referencing watching this show.
Awesome photograph.
The costume designer really should win some kind of award.
Vetti faceplanting into the roses would make another awesome gif.
So Vetti finally reveals his true goal... and it's even stupider than I imagined.
Crash Station
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Branduil said:
That black cross design makes it look like the head and body aren't even connected.
A Black Falcon said:
The possibility of Byakushiki being autonomous never existed until whoever wrote the script shoehorned it into Episode 12.
What do you mean by the latter question?
What do you mean by the latter question?
I say both. They're awful. If you do reply to my Episode 11 response to your Episode 11 comments, you'll see why. Episode 11 is their magnum opus of awfulness. It's easier to use that as a reference point. And they don't care. I wouldn't say they were making stuff up. The narrative lacked a sense of cohesive throughout, failing to connect anything. I'm all for wish-fulfillment, but there are better bad animes out there that have done better.
Remember when Laura's IS mutated during the team battle? I'm talking about that incident, and also, when Ichika yelled at Laura's mutated IS for stealing Chifuyu-nee's sword techniques. Not how her transformation or formatting was similar to Chifuyu-nee's.
As for Byakushiki, I'm thinking it could be the very first IS created by Tabane, and the IS cores were based off of Byakushiki's. Only reason I'm questioning Laura's mutated IS is because now Tabane is a hacking genius and an ingenious scientist who hacked an unmanned drone from some government base in the last few episodes, so her little sister and Ichika could show-off. Unless IS wants to spin and play a Germany conspiracy card and relate Ichika's kidnapping to tricking Chifuyu-nee to letting them borrow her for a year, so they could secretly gather data upon her to create the best IS.
I really don't know where I'm going with either of these speculations.
As for Byakushiki, I'm thinking it could be the very first IS created by Tabane, and the IS cores were based off of Byakushiki's. Only reason I'm questioning Laura's mutated IS is because now Tabane is a hacking genius and an ingenious scientist who hacked an unmanned drone from some government base in the last few episodes, so her little sister and Ichika could show-off. Unless IS wants to spin and play a Germany conspiracy card and relate Ichika's kidnapping to tricking Chifuyu-nee to letting them borrow her for a year, so they could secretly gather data upon her to create the best IS.
I really don't know where I'm going with either of these speculations.
Yeah, it's easier criticize. No doubt about it. I actually don't mind the talk too much. It was aimed to stir up last season's reaction on IS being talked so much.
Some of my most favorite animes feel flawless because I don't know how to praise them. And some of them are easier to highlight bad things about them that I've noticed despite liking them as much as I do.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Well the first episode of Steins;Gate blew threw the beginning of the game pretty damn quickly. I guess they are trying to get the groundwork for the story set up quickly. I liked that they copied the camera angle for Alpcaman from the VN.
jman2050 said:
Just finished Mai Hime ~ and what a rollercoaster ride the end was. I don't really want to dwell on the weaknesses of the show because they are quite apparent. All in all I enjoyd this anime quite a bit. Loved the diverse cast of personalities and wasn't annoyed be the teenage angst factor. Through and through solid show.
The "prolog" after the final battle was hilarious in many different ways and was probably the best thing in the last two episodes, which by themselves have been relativly weak.
Would watch again.
Toradora 1 - Started watching this, just now. All i can say after 1 episode is this taiga girl is a real psychopath, if i ever met a girl like that irl, i wouldn't even go near her, i mean come on she tries to kill the main character with a wooden sword!
Overall - it seems amusing enough, but I'd haft to admit if it wasn't for the overall popularity of the series here and the number of people who are bugging me to watch it, i probably wouldn't even bother with it past the first episode, but i will watch the whole thing.
Overall - it seems amusing enough, but I'd haft to admit if it wasn't for the overall popularity of the series here and the number of people who are bugging me to watch it, i probably wouldn't even bother with it past the first episode, but i will watch the whole thing.
A Black Falcon
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Elastic didn't exist before the later 1800s. No modern-style underwear without it. You need stretchy rubber products to get elastic, and even that wasn't discovered (to make tires, etc.) until the 1840s.mAcOdIn said:
El Cazador was good. It's not as good as Noir, sure, but it's good. Noir definitely is the best of their three "girls with guns" shows, and the only one of the three I'd consider calling a great show, but El Cazador's in a solid second. Madlax of course I didn't like as much.
Hey, I write about shows I consider good as often as ones I don't, probably... it's not my fault if it's the ones I don't that get most of the replies. (Or if other people's tastes differ on what they consider good.)
Like, for shows so far this year I've written posts about IS (horrible but amusing in how bad it is), Rio (bad, fanservice-centric), Oniichan no koto... (horrible but often funny), and Gosick (decent to good show, depending on the episode. More often good than not. I like it). So one good one, but nobody wants to talk about that show since they dismissed it for having "not mysterious enough mysteries". Oh well.
Of course though, we also discussed Escaflowne, which I at least think is great, and I wrote some about The Twelve Kingdoms too, did you forget that one? And I mentioned a few others too, here and there. I finished (and posted about) Speed Grapher and Pani Poni Dash in January, I thought both were pretty good and I believe you disagreed like usual. I rewatched and made some posts about Angelic Layer, which I still like for sure. I watched/wrote about my opinions on a couple of movies too, including Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex: Solid State Society (quite good but confusing as always from the franchise) and The Sky Crawlers (unique, perhaps, and well made, but so boring...). Etc.
I guess I just don't hate enough shows, though there certainly are some I do, and don't use screencaps to get attention to things either.
No, it'd probably be less interesting that way. And did you really not disagree with my statement that the rest of the club members aren't any better than Haruhi, or did you just drop that point? (I'm guessing the latter)
But both are partially true. It's mostly meaningless, but not entirely.
As my list above shows, your opinions on which shows are bad are often wrong.
But as for things like that, sure, perhaps. You got the "ISes are actually spirits or something" thing too, apparently.One Piece aside, I just thought the fact that he went from calling them "my friends" to admitting he liked one showed a bit of character development, for pretty much the first time... of course it's in a traditional, very cliche harem-show interrupted scene, but it probably was better than going to the end with him maintaining his "they're just friends" thing to the end. It just needed more character building in between, as I said. It's a pretty basic thing, that IS failed at even that is kind of amusing.
Considering that if it continues it'll just keep going nowhere most of the time it doesn't really matter, and it was predictable that he'd end up with her on the "first girl" basis, but come on, IS is uncommonly bad at giving any kind of consistency between its episodes. I think that the way they did it does make the plot even stupider.
As for whether he loves all of them, he's the ultra-caring protagonist guy, so he's got to, right? But he knew Houki first so he loves her a little more than the others, maybe. (repeat "what in the world anime, why do you care so much about childhood friends" criticism here)
Wow, you managed to guess it so early? Impressive, perhaps... I didn't. And yes, I agree with you, as I said.
My guess is Ichika can control the IS because of his immense compassion for everyone. Yeah, I think it's going to be that cheesy. That the IS's are all created with the spirit of a female and usually only females can operate them because they love and feel more compassion but Ichika is like a fountain of love and compassion and Tabane met him once a long time ago and recognized this and figured he could pull it off.
Ugh, sounds horrible and cheesy enough to maybe be on the right track.
Perhaps, if something alien or magic-like or spiritual is involved... I'm not sure she was telling the truth there though, her statements were evasive. If she is telling the truth, then yeah, it could well be that.
Quite possible, that'd fit the genre well for sure. I'm not sure if it'd admit it though, that stuff is sometimes left unstated, as the actual reasons behind why it's happening while the show pretends that no, of course we have story-based reasons, like IS's in that conversation... while of course you're right, it's much more likely that they're just excuses for why the conventions are going to be followed.
Yeah, that is probably true.
Lafiel said:Toradora 1 - Started watching this, just now. All i can say after 1 episode is this taiga girl is a real psychopath, if i ever met a girl like that irl, i wouldn't even go near her, i mean come on she tries to kill the main character with a wooden sword!
Overall - it seems amusing enough, but I'd haft to admit if it wasn't for the overall popularity of the series here and the number of people who are bugging me to watch it, i probably wouldn't even bother with it past the first episode, but i will watch the whole thing.
Keep going on, Toradora is pretty much as good as the general tsundere romance gets. Personally I liked it most for the characters, some really great exectued scenes and awesome seiyuu work. The comedy didn't really click for me except Inko-chan but then again my humor as most of my friends say plain sucks.
Hanasaku Iroha After seeing all the positive posts on it here I decided to check it out since I haven't much else to watch lately. It was surprisingly enjoyable. The animation was great and every character introduced so far has potential to be interesting. Definitely looking forward to seeing how everything continues.
Nichijou Had some really good moments. I'll most likely keep an eye on future episodes.
I'll probably be checking out Steins;'.,!*:?Gate (seriously what's up with that semi-colon?) in a bit.
Nichijou Had some really good moments. I'll most likely keep an eye on future episodes.
I'll probably be checking out Steins;'.,!*:?Gate (seriously what's up with that semi-colon?) in a bit.
A Black Falcon
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Bakatest Matsuri OVA 02 - Yeah, that wasn't very good at all. Painfully generic and bad at the better parts, just boring at the worse ones, there wasn't much here about what's good about the series... the idea of morons winning a primarily knowledge-based tournament through cheating is not something that I am going to like. Blatant cheating like that should get you disqualified... "they're going to reveal it, we need to stop them"? As if you didn't in several rounds, when you used stupid, underhanded measures out in public during battle to get your opponents to quit? Ugh. And as for the good fighting ability they have in this episode, I don't remember them having that before... there's a one line attempt to justify why they have it now, but it was lame. This episode was so bad, the plot completely fell apart but because it fits enough of the stereotypes they decided it was good enough anyway, I guess. I knew they were going to win but were rooting against them in every round.
As for jokes, I think I might have laughed once or twice... no more than that, though. It wasn't very funny. At the beginning I was hopeful it'd improve after it got to the main plot (it starts with an incest segment about how his sister loves him but is a bad cook), but it just went downhill from there...
Oh, and as I suggested above, it was incredibly predictable. Everything that happens could be guessed a mile away, there are no surprises. I'm sure some people are going to like this episode, but I didn't.
Last Exile (I just finished writing this part, so I decided to put it in a new post)
I mean, talking about Last Exile without even mentioning the great ship designs, the interesting and unique take on the world that the series has, the original world design, and more? Yes, I like the story and characters too, but the outstanding presentation and world design, and the solid CG work too for the flying and fight scenes, are some of the show's stronger points. The "flying ships in a world of sky" concept isn't often done nearly that well. And as a huge fan of Skies of Arcadia, I like such settings.
And on the note of the characters, the motivations for the countries were strong -- the world has very limited resources, people are fighting over what's there. Disith is facing environmental collapse, pushing them even harder to win. Anatoray is trying to resist them. The characters have fine motivations and backstories too, I thought. I have no complaints there that I can remember.
As for your plot criticisms though, first, on the point of the failed mission, the attempt was a miserable failure. Someone died, and they did not get through. Afterwards isn't it entirely reasonable to say 'it can't be done, you'll just fail and maybe die too'? I'd say that's an understandable reaction.
For how Alvis escaped the Guild, I forget if they explain how that happened or not, but what matters for the plot is that she did, not how. I've seen the series twice, and never cared about that point. And yeah, you don't really learn what exactly she is, except that she has some strange tie to Exile. I did wonder, but oh well, it works as it is.
As for the Guild, Alex hated her partially for what she'd said, but also because he knew enough about the Guild's system to know that he thought it was wrong and needed to be fought against, yes? And in the end he gets his revenge and the Guild is defeated, and the world has a chance to progress.
And as for the plot and the ending, yes it is confusing. However, you can make sense of it with time. The thing they are finding is the world-ship that brought people to this very strangely shaped planet (on that note I do wish the show had made it clearer in the show somewhere how odd the planet looks, to explain why you have to go through the sky to reach the other nation...). Once they activated it it'll release resources badly needed, I believe, or something like that; perhaps it instead takes them (and others) inside, where they travel to another world with more resources (the latter is the explanation Wikipedia goes for). Remember that the Guild's excuse for why they oppressed everyone was that because of the world's scarce resources the nations could not be allowed to advance beyond what the land could sustain. In addition to defeating the Guild, finding the Exile is vital for breaking that system. Despite its hard to understand nature, I like the ending; sure, it's not clear exactly where they went at the end, the villains were defeated, and at least we do know that the characters will be happier now and in the future and there won't be suffering and war over scarce resources. Maybe they'll fight over other things, but not that. And Mullen isn't dead either, the ending reveals that he survived somehow. So yeah, it was a decent if confusing ending for a pretty good show.
As for jokes, I think I might have laughed once or twice... no more than that, though. It wasn't very funny. At the beginning I was hopeful it'd improve after it got to the main plot (it starts with an incest segment about how his sister loves him but is a bad cook), but it just went downhill from there...
Oh, and as I suggested above, it was incredibly predictable. Everything that happens could be guessed a mile away, there are no surprises. I'm sure some people are going to like this episode, but I didn't.
Last Exile (I just finished writing this part, so I decided to put it in a new post)
It's like your Escaflowne complaints, sort of, minor complaints about things that either are explained or aren't too important...mAcOdIn said:
I mean, talking about Last Exile without even mentioning the great ship designs, the interesting and unique take on the world that the series has, the original world design, and more? Yes, I like the story and characters too, but the outstanding presentation and world design, and the solid CG work too for the flying and fight scenes, are some of the show's stronger points. The "flying ships in a world of sky" concept isn't often done nearly that well. And as a huge fan of Skies of Arcadia, I like such settings.
And on the note of the characters, the motivations for the countries were strong -- the world has very limited resources, people are fighting over what's there. Disith is facing environmental collapse, pushing them even harder to win. Anatoray is trying to resist them. The characters have fine motivations and backstories too, I thought. I have no complaints there that I can remember.
As for your plot criticisms though, first, on the point of the failed mission, the attempt was a miserable failure. Someone died, and they did not get through. Afterwards isn't it entirely reasonable to say 'it can't be done, you'll just fail and maybe die too'? I'd say that's an understandable reaction.
For how Alvis escaped the Guild, I forget if they explain how that happened or not, but what matters for the plot is that she did, not how. I've seen the series twice, and never cared about that point. And yeah, you don't really learn what exactly she is, except that she has some strange tie to Exile. I did wonder, but oh well, it works as it is.
As for the Guild, Alex hated her partially for what she'd said, but also because he knew enough about the Guild's system to know that he thought it was wrong and needed to be fought against, yes? And in the end he gets his revenge and the Guild is defeated, and the world has a chance to progress.
And as for the plot and the ending, yes it is confusing. However, you can make sense of it with time. The thing they are finding is the world-ship that brought people to this very strangely shaped planet (on that note I do wish the show had made it clearer in the show somewhere how odd the planet looks, to explain why you have to go through the sky to reach the other nation...). Once they activated it it'll release resources badly needed, I believe, or something like that; perhaps it instead takes them (and others) inside, where they travel to another world with more resources (the latter is the explanation Wikipedia goes for). Remember that the Guild's excuse for why they oppressed everyone was that because of the world's scarce resources the nations could not be allowed to advance beyond what the land could sustain. In addition to defeating the Guild, finding the Exile is vital for breaking that system. Despite its hard to understand nature, I like the ending; sure, it's not clear exactly where they went at the end, the villains were defeated, and at least we do know that the characters will be happier now and in the future and there won't be suffering and war over scarce resources. Maybe they'll fight over other things, but not that. And Mullen isn't dead either, the ending reveals that he survived somehow. So yeah, it was a decent if confusing ending for a pretty good show.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Well going through Steins;Gate right now since the first episode pretty much covered everything I've read so far. Kurisu made a Back to the Future reference in her lecture! So awesome.
Lafiel said:Re-watched the first Hanasaku Iroha episode. (something i rarely do) and it's still as good as ever! ;_; it would be heartbreaking if this show ended up sucking, because everything feels so perfect to me.
And heh i think Chiaki Omigawa character (dat voice) is easily the most interesting one in the series so far, I'm kinda eager to see how she develops down the line.
Woah woah woah woah wait a minute, she's in this!?! How did I not notice this!?
*Checks up on this*
No wonder, her voice has been very low, and the sentences very short, me likes.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Anime- When it airs on TV.Uchip said:
Game- XBOX360 version.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Note to self: Geneijin is in it for the pantsu.
pieatorium
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Irohah 1
Really enjoyable. Looked great
Steins Gate 1
Setup episode, kinda eh
Really enjoyable. Looked great
Steins Gate 1
Setup episode, kinda eh
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