I agree with you re: Sugu's feelings, at least (though not Kirito because he's a dunce), but I got none of that stuff out of the setting of Alfheim, at least as portrayed in the show. In-show how seriously characters take the game and its internal fiction is heavily undermined by the fact that it's far more apparent that it is just a game to the majority of players. Alfheim being a game to most of its inhabitants should've been played up more, but instead it was treated as serious business (the make-believe racism and politics was so stiflingly moronic it was hard to be invested in any of it) and the show suffered for it.
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I agree with you re: Sugu's feelings, at least (though not Kirito because he's a dunce), but I got none of that stuff out of the setting of Alfheim, at least as portrayed in the show. In-show how seriously characters take the game and its internal fiction is heavily undermined by the fact that it's far more apparent that it is just a game to the majority of players. Alfheim being a game to most of its inhabitants should've been played up more, but instead it was treated as serious business (the make-believe racism and politics was so stiflingly moronic it was hard to be invested in any of it) and the show suffered for it.
Swort Art Online had a ton of problems. The concept was interesting enough, had a nice art style and some solid action. But then it gets into some weird waifu shit and everything goes downhill. And even before that, it seemed like every girl in the game wanted Kirito's dick really badly, though I wasn't too bothered by it when I watched the show.
My big issue with SAO is that Alfheim and everything after should not exist. Its stupid in both concept and execution. Why on Earth should I give a fuck about Alfheim? They have this subplot about different factions and Kirito gets involved but why the fuck should I care? We barely get to see any of that world, Kirito honestly doesn't give a fuck about it and is only there to same his girlfriend, magic is lame, all of the characters from season 1 got the boot - its just awful.
At least with Aincrad, had they developed it fully and given it time, it could have been amazing. We could have spent the entire show there, and we should have. That whole Sachi nonsense could have been done over an entire season so we actually have reason to care about her. They could have built up to a proper climax rather than just throwing an ending out of the blue just to end it faster.
So in short: Alfheim is unforgivingly stupid, the fanservice was awful (Tentacle scene was shameful), waifu shit was horrible and Aincrad was rushed.
My big issue with SAO is that Alfheim and everything after should not exist. Its stupid in both concept and execution. Why on Earth should I give a fuck about Alfheim? They have this subplot about different factions and Kirito gets involved but why the fuck should I care? We barely get to see any of that world, Kirito honestly doesn't give a fuck about it and is only there to same his girlfriend, magic is lame, all of the characters from season 1 got the boot - its just awful.
At least with Aincrad, had they developed it fully and given it time, it could have been amazing. We could have spent the entire show there, and we should have. That whole Sachi nonsense could have been done over an entire season so we actually have reason to care about her. They could have built up to a proper climax rather than just throwing an ending out of the blue just to end it faster.
So in short: Alfheim is unforgivingly stupid, the fanservice was awful (Tentacle scene was shameful), waifu shit was horrible and Aincrad was rushed.
Love that show. So want a second season.
Yeah, I want one as well. The action scenes were pretty damn fun to watch.
Admiral Woofington
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Imho it gets even better. But considering how many times they've attempted to remake that show it makes me think the audiences aren't there even if studios think it's a good property.
This is the peril of adaptation, I think. Aincrad is pretty straightforward adaptation-wise aside from inserting some short story stuff early on to better help develop the world. Wholesale rewrites would be nice to make things flow better but I figure there's all sorts of issues there, be it artistic integrity of the original work or failing to give the fans what they want and move discs/manga/LNs.
Yeah. I found Alfheim as a setting boring as anything.
As for Kirito/Sugu...I think the idea of a characters having feelings for each other in the avatar relationship, could be an interesting if tragic story. In fact Tolkien did such a thing in the Silmarillion though in that case one of the siblings was an amnesiac and the siblings hadn't met.
ZachDeKoromaru
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Yozakura Quartet HNU pandered to me in almost every way possible and therefore maintained its exellence throughout. Ryo-timo please save us for another season!
Admiral Woofington
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Spoken like a monster girl fan.
The whole setting in the show was boring and terrible. Maybe Im just not an mmorpg fan but such lack of imagination. Accel World was more creative.
Urusei Yatsura - 12-17
Loved the Mendou introduction episode. I feel like he'll mesh with the rest of the cast well. He's also exceedingly Rumic. I'm starting to see a few episodes that feel a little bit less inspired and produced than others which I'm guessing belong in the pot of episodes madp was warning about though they're still great on average. I really dig the dead pan, sort of non-punchline endings they sometimes throw out. Notably the episode involving Lum seeing if Mendou or Ataru were more compatible that concluded with their entire class turning into star constellations. Good stuff. Still feels like the show has great momentum.
Loved the Mendou introduction episode. I feel like he'll mesh with the rest of the cast well. He's also exceedingly Rumic. I'm starting to see a few episodes that feel a little bit less inspired and produced than others which I'm guessing belong in the pot of episodes madp was warning about though they're still great on average. I really dig the dead pan, sort of non-punchline endings they sometimes throw out. Notably the episode involving Lum seeing if Mendou or Ataru were more compatible that concluded with their entire class turning into star constellations. Good stuff. Still feels like the show has great momentum.
BassForever
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Damn those beat testers, yeah they share information with us and are stuck in the same boat as we are but they're dirty rotten cheaters
I've already accept I'm going to die in the game and attempt to commit suicide, so instead of just being happy to be alive and living it town I continue to go on adventures with my friends and pre-record christmas cards because I know I'm going to die sooner or later
Oh hey I know that's a trap, better not let them know it'll probably get them killed or else it'll reveal that I'm a higher leveled beater, oh wait they activated the trap and died... there was nothing I could do
Some random guy walks into my shop, breaks my best sword, and takes me on an adventure with him. Despite the fact I do jobs for people all the time I KNOW he's special and I love him... oh wait my BFF is seeing him better make him an EXCLUSIVE client while crying behind a bridge that the guy I've known for a day is in love with someone else
My wife was getting more confident in this video game and stopped being my perfect trophy wife so I paid people to kill her so she can live in my memories forever
A women isn't something you own *4 episodes later is a thing characters fight over... and 4 episodes after that is literally a trophy wife in a cage*
I made a death game which killed almost 4000 people because... I don't remember lolol
ZachDeKoromaru
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You just can't handle delicious harpy asses.
No, you are correct, even the premise of SAO was terrible.
Admiral Woofington
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When a monster is named like a Pokémon I think there are underlying issues. Isn't one of them named like Lapras or something?
KuwabaraTheMan
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All these people sitting around defending the worst thing on the internet since child porn. I don't get it.
BassForever
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And was basically glorified for what he did, not by the new antagonist but by the main protagonist.............................................
AquaWateria
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Yeah while the series didn't have that many action scenes like SAO.It used world building and character development to make you feel for the world there in and the characters. Which is why I feel Log Horizon was executed much properly than SAO, and it blended comedy, action, and politics so much better. In the long run it was better.
ZachDeKoromaru
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There's probably an anthropomorphic Lapras out there, it's a big internet.
Admiral Woofington
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You just don't comprehend how anti heroes work. He had to Kiritsugu everyone because the blood of the innocent was enough to save the world by bathing Kirito in sweet child blood that gave him the strength to win.
MetroidPrimeRib
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Wow this place turned into a warzone.
We should talk about less divide-y and or bad shows, like Valvrave or Attack on Titan.
We should talk about less divide-y and or bad shows, like Valvrave or Attack on Titan.
Admiral Woofington
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Or your favorite anime
Well I thought that whole show was crap. The only positive was that it allowed a short fat kid to be the protagonist.
This is why I simply cannot wait for SAO S2.
BassForever
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Nah better to light the fire with more of the same things anime fans always argue round and round about, like that FMA 03 is garbage compared to FMA:B or that Kill La Kill and Space Dandy are two of the best anime in recent years that are saving anime
You have no idea how happy I am to discover that I'm not the only fan of Moyashimon. I love that show so much.
Hellsing321
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The best part is when kirito says Hitler did nothing wrong.
Accel World is happysquee awesome. Kuroyukihime is one of the greatest characters ever.
It was pretty good. Mostly cause of Ao and how very much I love her but it was quite fun to watch!
Nah better to light the fire with more of the same things anime fans always argue round and round about, like that FMA 03 is garbage compared to FMA:B or that Kill La Kill and Space Dandy are two of the best anime in recent years that are saving anime
This season seems to be Ping Pong that is making people lose their minds.
Razgriz-Specter
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All the more reason to dislike it, it has incredible potential which is wasted or ruind episode by episode.
BassForever
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I saw a few pictures and wondered where the back grounds were and why the characters looked unfinished and decided it was clearly not a show for me
I think I'll do a concurrent .hack//sign viewing...
That's pretty much why I barely made it through episode one. Meanwhile I'm fine with how Baby Steps looks, which everyone else seems to rage about.
Oh but that is because the show is so stylish and artistic and ugly.
I've never seen that. SAO was I think my first anime that used 'trapped in a game'.
ZachDeKoromaru
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Ao was certainly a cutie, and definitely pushed my mofu buttons.
Yeah. It started out alright but by the halfway point it shot the shark to death and pogo sticked on its remains
BassForever
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So it's this season's Flowers of Evil but with a less interesting plot but with slightly better animation (unfinished > rotoscope shit)
This isn't even taking into account the pacing problems, which are numerous and glaring. Like the fact literally half of the first episode is exposition that has no relevance to literally anything. It's 15 minutes of exposition on a topic that doesn't matter in the slightest.
Not really about plot, Ping Pong is about the characters, also the animation is better.
You've got a friend in me.
BassForever
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But if you didn't have the 15 minutes of exposition then you'd have no idea how the characters were able to pull off such amazing attacks in a VRMMORPG!
I mean either way Ping Pong is still a sports anime about ping pong which is one of those fun for 5 minute things you do in the basement then get bored and go do something else.
That's every sport ever. It's fun until it isn't.
MetroidPrimeRib
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This misconception again.
chickdigger802
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fuck, love live ios/android game was localized.
fuck climate change, america is waifued.
its all over.
fuck climate change, america is waifued.
its all over.
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