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Spring Anime 2012 | Welcome Home, Space Cowboy

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Well we'll see who is right then pretty soon. Any word on how far they are going with this, or is it only a 1 or 2 cour show?

There's some rumors that it's like 40ish, which could be good for the introduction of a certain character.

Here's the way I see it.

Pre-genre shift: Unremarkable Baka Test clone
Post-genre shift: Above average-good
Post-Kumagawa introduction: God tier

Of course people are free to see things differently, but I think I got a few posters on my side regarding the glory of said character. ABF and Envelope seem to be the only people that aren't a fan.

I hope its 1 cour and pure romcom just to fuck with everyone.

It's not, one of the dudes post-genre shift is in the promo art.
 

Thoraxes

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There's some rumors that it's like 40ish, which could be good for the introduction of a certain character.

Here's the way I see it.

Pre-genre shift: Unremarkable Baka Test clone
Post-genre shift: Above average-good
Post-Kumagawa introduction: God tier

Of course people are free to see things differently, but I think I got a few posters on my side regarding the glory of said character. ABF and Envelope seem to be the only people that aren't a fan.

Which means I view you as correct :lol
 

wonzo

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Guys, tonight is a motherfucking disaster at work.
Post cute things.
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Articalys

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Current Winter Temporal Sales Rankings:

12,828 *2 Inu x Boku SS [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/21
10,345 *2 Natsume Yuujin-chou Shi [DVD+BD]: 2012/02/22
*9,121 *1 High School DxD [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/21
*6,128 *1 Ano Natsu de Matteru [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/23
*4,973 *2 Brave10 [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/21
*4,588 *2 Mouretsu Pirates [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/07
*4,454 *1 Senki Zesshou Symphogear [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/28
*4,012 *2 Papa no Iu Koto wo Kikinasai! [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/07
*3,089 *1 Rinne no Lagrange [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/23
*2,353 *1 Tantei Opera Milky Holmes 2 [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/21
*2,192 *1 Another [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/30
*1,525 *1 Zero no Tsukaima F [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/21 (v2 sales)
**,686 *1 Kill Me Baby [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/07
 
Hanazawa is in Zetman? I guess I'll have to try this.

Current Winter Temporal Sales Rankings:

12,828 *2 Inu x Boku SS [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/21
10,345 *2 Natsume Yuujin-chou Shi [DVD+BD]: 2012/02/22
*9,121 *1 High School DxD [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/21
*6,128 *1 Ano Natsu de Matteru [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/23
*4,973 *2 Brave10 [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/21
*4,588 *2 Mouretsu Pirates [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/07
*4,454 *1 Senki Zesshou Symphogear [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/28
*4,012 *2 Papa no Iu Koto wo Kikinasai! [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/07
*3,089 *1 Rinne no Lagrange [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/23
*2,353 *1 Tantei Opera Milky Holmes 2 [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/21
*2,192 *1 Another [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/30
*1,525 *1 Zero no Tsukaima F [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/21 (v2 sales)
**,686 *1 Kill Me Baby [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/07

JC Staff really blew it by waiting too long on ZNT/Shana.
 

wonzo

Banned
Current Winter Temporal Sales Rankings:

12,828 *2 Inu x Boku SS [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/21
10,345 *2 Natsume Yuujin-chou Shi [DVD+BD]: 2012/02/22
*9,121 *1 High School DxD [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/21
*6,128 *1 Ano Natsu de Matteru [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/23
*4,973 *2 Brave10 [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/21
*4,588 *2 Mouretsu Pirates [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/07
*4,454 *1 Senki Zesshou Symphogear [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/28
*4,012 *2 Papa no Iu Koto wo Kikinasai! [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/07
*3,089 *1 Rinne no Lagrange [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/23
*2,353 *1 Tantei Opera Milky Holmes 2 [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/21
*2,192 *1 Another [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/30
*1,525 *1 Zero no Tsukaima F [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/21 (v2 sales)
**,686 *1 Kill Me Baby [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/07
so far so good!
 

Articalys

Member
Full weekly rankings list for March 26 - April 1:

DVD
*1, 4,048 *,*20,485 Prince of Tennis: Eikokushiki Teikyuu Shiro Kessen! Deluxe Edition
*2, 3,006 *,**3,006 Sekaiichi Hatsukoi 2 vol.4 Limited Edition
*3, 1,662 *,**1,662 Lupin III Master File
*4, 1,406 *,*11,155 Gintama' vol.9 Limited Edition
*5, 1,353 *,**1,353 The iDOLM@STER vol.6 Limited Edition
*6, 1,209 *,**7,126 Inu x Boku SS vol.1 Limited Edition
*7, 1,132 1,129,460 My Neighbor Totoro
*8, 1,123 *,**1,123 Shakugan no Shana III vol.4 Limited Edition
*9, *,984 *.***,984 Beelzebub vol.10
10, *,898 *,**6,468 Persona 4 The Animation vol.5 Limited Edition
11, *,823 *,***,823 Senki Zesshou Symphogear vol.1 Limited Edition
12, *,811 *,***,811 Maken-Ki! vol.4 Limited Edition
13, *,806 *,**4,975 Ao no Exorcist vol.10 Limited Edition
14, *,737 *,***,737 Tamayura: Hitotose vol.4
15, *,713 *,**3,624 Rurouni Kenshin: Shin Kyoto Hen vol.1
16, *,610 *,***,610 Gosick vol.12 Limited Edition
17, *,609 *,**2,725 Uchuu Senkan Yamato: Fukkatsu-hen
18, *,603 *,**3,926 Natsume Yuujinchou Shi vol.2 Limited Edition
19, *,551 *,***,551 Nichijou vol.10 Special Edition
20, *,539 *,**3,538 Brave 10 vol.1
21, *,528 *,478,217 Kiki's Delivery Service
22, *,486 *,**2,911 Eiga Suite Precure♪: Torimodose! Kokoro ga Tsunaku Kiseki no Melody♪

Blu-ray
*1, 5,834 *5,834 The iDOLM@STER vol.6 Limited Edition
*2, 4,104 *4,104 Mawaru Penguindrum vol.6 Limited Edition
*3, 3,754 *3,754 Tamayura: Hitotose vol.4 Limited Edition
*4, 3,631 *3,631 Senki Zesshou Symphogear vol.1 Limited Edition
*5, 2,730 19,426 Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon vol.4 Limited Edition
*6, 2,710 *2,710 Shakugan no Shana IIIh vol.4 Limited Edition
*7, 2,192 *2,192 Another vol.1 Limited Edition
*8, 2,170 *2,170 Lupin III Master File
*9, 2,025 19,946 Persona 4 The Animation vol.5 Limited Edition
10, 1,932 *1,932 Maken-Ki! vol.4
 

duckroll

Member
I think there's a better chance that the two shows are Medaka Box and Shirokuma Cafe or something like that. Crunchyroll and TV Tokyo are bed buddies after all.
 

Defuser

Member
Current Winter Temporal Sales Rankings:

12,828 *2 Inu x Boku SS [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/21
10,345 *2 Natsume Yuujin-chou Shi [DVD+BD]: 2012/02/22
*9,121 *1 High School DxD [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/21
*6,128 *1 Ano Natsu de Matteru [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/23
*4,973 *2 Brave10 [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/21
*4,588 *2 Mouretsu Pirates [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/07
*4,454 *1 Senki Zesshou Symphogear [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/28
*4,012 *2 Papa no Iu Koto wo Kikinasai! [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/07
*3,089 *1 Rinne no Lagrange [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/23
*2,353 *1 Tantei Opera Milky Holmes 2 [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/21
*2,192 *1 Another [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/30
*1,525 *1 Zero no Tsukaima F [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/21 (v2 sales)
**,686 *1 Kill Me Baby [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/07

Brave 10 beat Rinne and Another wut.
 

Articalys

Member
And music sales:

Single CD
*1, 119,833 119,833 Doraemon: Nobita and the Miracle Island - Animal Adventure "Ikiteru Ikiteku"
*7, *10,068 *10,068 Senki Zesshou Symphogear Character Song vol.4
*9, **9,384 **9,384 Danball Senki W "Brave Hero"
22, **3,695 **3,695 New Prince of Tennis "Last Phase"
26, **2,742 *44,787 Guilty Crown "The Everlasting Guilty Crown"
29, **2,538 *21,299 Smile Precure! "Let's go! Smile Precure!" "Yeah!Yeah!Yeah!"
31, **2,407 *55,634 Mouretsu Pirates "Mugen no Ai"
33, **2,174 *16,767 Senki Zesshou Symphogear Character Song vol.3
36, **1,887 *39,478 Guilty Crown & Black★Rock Shooter "Kokuhaku" "Bokura no Ashiato"

Wait, what?
 
Current Winter Temporal Sales Rankings:

12,828 *2 Inu x Boku SS [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/21
10,345 *2 Natsume Yuujin-chou Shi [DVD+BD]: 2012/02/22
*9,121 *1 High School DxD [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/21
*6,128 *1 Ano Natsu de Matteru [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/23
*4,973 *2 Brave10 [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/21
*4,588 *2 Mouretsu Pirates [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/07
*4,454 *1 Senki Zesshou Symphogear [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/28
*4,012 *2 Papa no Iu Koto wo Kikinasai! [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/07
*3,089 *1 Rinne no Lagrange [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/23
*2,353 *1 Tantei Opera Milky Holmes 2 [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/21
*2,192 *1 Another [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/30
*1,525 *1 Zero no Tsukaima F [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/21 (v2 sales)
**,686 *1 Kill Me Baby [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/07

Yay! S2 for both of those, here we come!
 

frostbyte

Member
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Fate/Stay Night (2006)

"There are two kinds of dreams. One for which the person is too small to grasp, and one which is too great for anyone to grasp."
- Fate/Zero

This series was a bit of a mess. But it was the kind of mess that all animes should aspire to be. In the end, Studio DEEN was too small to grasp the dream, they weren't given the kind of budget they would have needed, they didn't have the talent they needed, and they weren't given the number of episodes they needed. But in many ways, the dream was too great for anyone to have grasped, unless the show was at least 3 (and probably 4) seasons of 13 episodes each in length and had the kind of budget a Gundam series normally would command. I don't think ufotable could have done that much better considering the limitations that DEEN faced in 2006. Fate/Stay Night was just a dream, but it was the good kind of dream, the kind that all animes would benefit from chasing if they at least tried and failed rather than have never tried at all. Once you've suffered through enough half-assed J.C. Staff animes, even an anime that puts forth effort and doesn't quite succeed is something noteworthy.

Within the limitations of the producing studio, and the budget, and the number of episodes given, this show was given all the effort that Studio DEEN could muster. They really tried to animate every fight to the best of their ability, they really tried to cover as much of the story as they could while condensing the 3 routes of the VN into an omnibus format, and they really tried to give the whole affair a life of it's own. I found Shirou insufferably annoying most of the way through, but without knowing the source material it's difficult to say how much of this was exactly as it was in the VN. The other characters were enjoyable, even if the anime didn't find it relevant or interesting to ever tell us what anybody's real motivations for their actions were for it's entire run.

Like the Servant a Master summons into the world, F/SN was both alive with it's own vibrance and yet fundamentally dead, because ultimately it couldn't cohesively convey the story of the VN without the viewer having previous knowledge of it beforehand. There is no way I would have known anything that was going on if I hadn't watched the first half of Fate/Zero before tackling this series, and that is pretty much the worst crime an adaptation of source material from another medium can commit. Having not read the VN, I can't speak to how well it stands as a companion piece to it, but as a standalone anime it puts forth a monumental effort and falls just short in key areas like explaining why people are doing what they are doing.

Therefore, the irony of the F/SN anime is that in 2006 it would have failed utterly to convert anyone to becoming a fan of the franchise or Type-Moon properties in general. In 2012, when viewed after the (far superior) F/Z anime, it is a reasonable continuation of the story begun in it's prequel. If nothing else, the maddening way the show just jumps from set piece to set piece without explaining why anything is happening will encourage people to go and read the VN so they find out. Maybe that was the goal all along, but annoying the viewer to death by having people do things just because they apparently feel like it isn't the right way to encourage that because most people will just get mad and quit.

I'm assuming the ending of the show matches the Fate route it mostly adapts, and so it's not really a happy ending, but it was a good ending. As a proud member of the All-Around Mustache Club, I don't really have a ton of criteria for judging how good an anime really is besides was the animation pretty and did it have a good ending. The animation wasn't pretty, and Shirou's character stood out as being exceptionally ugly though the other characters fared better. But I did cry several times at the end, and that always counts for something when I rate animes.

Fate/Stay Night
"Shirou's Law: The dumber the shounen lead is, the more awesome his love interest will be."
Final Rating: 7.5 Sabers Rins Ilyas out of 10

I'll agree with your assessment that DEEN did the best they could. I honestly think it's ok as a standalone piece, as a first foray into the Fate universe. It just can't compare to the VN; it's inferior in every aspect.

My only dislike about DEEN's adaptation (other than the lacklustre animation) is the fact that they tried to fuse some plot points from the UBW and Heaven's Feel route. Not only did they not do the Fate route justice, they spoiled the other routes as well. <_< Not the best decision, DEEN...

As you said, both this series and the UBW movie rely far too heavily on people actually having read the source material. Thrusting the viewer into the plot does not a good anime make. To me, both were just visual eyecandy/fanservice for F/SN fans who wanted to see GARcher in action.

Was the anime OST any good? I honestly don't remember anything from it so I guess it was forgettable? The VN's OST was pretty good though. Especially the use of Sorrow in the
final scene of Fate route
, which is only time where it's used. If you're planning to play through the VN, you might not want to listen to it though.

I actually really like Kirameku Namida wa Hoshi ni (Fate/Stay Night OP2). I wish the anime could have been better but oh well.

The OPs are literally the only thing I even like about the F/SN anime.

That's why Ufotable should remake it properly along with Heaven's Feel route for maximum awesomeness and CG. Then we'll forget all about DEEN's atrocious turd.
 
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