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cnet128

Banned
Aku no Hana 12

Why do I suddenly feel like Kasuga is not being a completely spineless failure of a character with no redeeming qualities whatsoever? I find myself actually approving of some of the things he is doing. This feeling is alien and it scares me. I guess
making his decision and choosing Nakamura over Saeki
finally removed most of the horrible indecision and trying-to-be-two-different-things-at-once that was plaguing his character for most of the series.

It's still incredibly awkward that he's
telling Nakamura he's going to try to become a true pervert
when his actions are still those of
a decent guy with no real perverted tendencies whatsoever
. But you can see that he's acting from the heart now, and that's definitely an improvement from just running away from everything.

All the scenes with Kasuga and Nakamura's dad were very low-key, but at the same time very engrossing. Nakamura has always felt more like an uncontrollable force of nature than a relatable person, so it's fascinating to get this look into a side of her life that she doesn't let anybody see. Her dad actually seems kind of similar to Kasuga as a character - a decent person with good intentions at heart, but too weak and pathetic to make anything of those good intentions. I wonder if Nakamura's utter disgust with Kasuga lately has anything to do with him reminding her of her father. I also wonder how she'll react when she finds Kasuga intruding into her personal life like this.

And then at the end of the episode Kasuga
goes into Nakamura's room without permission despite the giant fuck-off STAY OUT message painted across the whole door
, which feels in a way like the perfect representation of the continuing contradiction in his character. Should he go in there? Well,
that's certainly what a pervert would do, so on one level, Nakamura would probably approve
. But is that why he's going in there?
I doubt it. Possibly he's going in there precisely because he thinks that's what a pervert would do and Nakamura would approve, in which case the whole thing is justified in his head and so not perverted at all.
Or he could be going in there
simply because he's desperate to gain some level of understanding of Nakamura, and he thinks what he finds in there might help him to do that.
Either way, he's doing what is outwardly an indecent thing for bizarrely decent reasons, which ironically makes him exactly the opposite of the indecent person Nakamura wanted him to be. My head hurts.

Have I mentioned I love this anime?
 

Regulus Tera

Romanes Eunt Domus
Basically, yeah. Although I'd probably be significantly less jaded if I hadn't pushed myself through most of the bad seasons in the past few months.
Watching three different seasons of Precure at the same time has been an enlightening experience, to say the least. More and more I feel like Heartcatch was a "happy accident" and that, while there are some sporadic moments of brilliance, the franchise doesn't do nearly enough to justify putting up with so much mediocrity. Which is weird because I do not think Heartcatch was that mind-blowing in terms of scope, either, but that show managed to tap into a more innocent facet of my anime tastes that I thought had long disappeared.

I don't know if I'm explaining myself, but I don't care.
 
Dokidoki precure 20

I don't know what to think about this week episode... i probably need to go to sleep and watch it again tomorrow.

WOW i wonder if toei has any idea how to handle the second part of the show ?

They plan to explain everything at some point , right ? right ?
 

CorvoSol

Member
I guess I'd better get on with watching bad anime, then. What's next? Slayers? Meh, like Gourry is even half as cool as Kirito. Doesn't even wield more than one sword, isn't a Beater. Meh.
 

Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
After my 450-episode ascent to the mountaintop, the truth that I learned there is that it's actually the output of the fan community that sustains my enjoyment of the franchise and that the shows themselves are only occasionally good for something other than fueling new fan creations, so I'm okay with this.
You sound exactly like an MLP fan.
 
Watching three different seasons of Precure at the same time has been an enlightening experience, to say the least. More and more I feel like Heartcatch was a "happy accident" and that, while there are some sporadic moments of brilliance, the franchise doesn't do nearly enough to justify putting up with so much mediocrity. Which is weird because I do not think Heartcatch was that mind-blowing in terms of scope, either, but that show managed to tap into a more innocent facet of my anime tastes that I thought had long disappeared.

I don't know if I'm explaining myself, but I don't care.

I do think, personally, that part of Heartcatch's appeal for me came from the fact that I watched everything before it, and bathed in their flaws and strengths, so watching Heartcatch felt like a breath of fresh air where NONE OF THOSE ISSUES EXISTED! And so everything else just made Heartcatch look even better.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
From what I've seen, I get the impression that the Sailor Moon marketing machine was even an order of magnitude more massive than Precure's with a tenth of the grotesque product placement.

Sometimes, people don't need to be manipulated into purchasing products if they enjoy a show because the show is actually good. Imagine that!

Yes, but how do you explain lesbians and girls turning into boys to a tween. :p
 
Yondemasu yo Azazel-san Z. 12

IoxAUW1l.jpg


All that glorious character breakdown and
NTR
.
 

Regulus Tera

Romanes Eunt Domus
I do think, personally, that part of Heartcatch's appeal for me came from the fact that I watched everything before it, and bathed in their flaws and strengths, so watching Heartcatch felt like a breath of fresh air where NONE OF THOSE ISSUES EXISTED! And so everything else just made Heartcatch look even better.
Heartcatch was my first Precure (and first magical girl show in years, for that matter), so I don't think it's "only" good in comparison to previous seasons.
 

cnet128

Banned
Sword Art Online, 25

I have to tell you all, that without a doubt, Sword Art Online is my favorite anime ever. It is absolutely the best piece of animated fiction I have ever seen. Allow me, if you will, to detail to you all exactly why this touching story of love, adventure, and heroism should be the first anime each and every one of you watches.

[snip]

Ultimately Sword Art Online is simply the most superlative, sublime, endearing animated masterpiece which I have ever had the inestimable pleasure of experiencing. Nothing will ever come close to being as special, as wondrously captivating as this show. I pray every night to God that there will be a second season so that I can continue to journey with Kirito, Suguha, and Asuna in the world they loved. The ending to this show had me crying into my pillow, so awe-struck was I by its simplistic, intrinsic, masterful beauty.

Ow, my sarcasm meter. You broke it.

There will never, ever be a show quite like Sword Art Online again.

Dammit, you broke my sincerity meter too!

...Now go watch Accel World, because I'd be honestly interested to see what you think of that series.
 

madp

The Light of El Cantare
Pretty much sums up my feelings after dealing with this. Although I probably enjoyed this ascent more than most.

The fanbase is great. I literally think one of the reasons why I started watching Precure was because someone said it had the Best doujins. So I watched all of this just so I can enjoy them more.

I was more generally referring to fan interpretations of the characters and how fanarts and comics are typically way more entertaining than the show itself. I've never looked at a Precure doujin, true story.
 
I for real loved Heartcatch and I don't read doujins.

For whatever that's worth.

Well at least find fanart

Heartcatch was my first Precure (and first magical girl show in years, for that matter), so I don't think it's "only" good in comparison to previous seasons.

Not what I mean. I mean Heartcatch in its basics is already good enough to recommend to someone without needing to watch everything else. That is how good it is. Watching everything else before just basically gives you a more descript reason of why it is fucking awesome.

I was more generally referring to fan interpretations of the characters and how fanarts and comics are typically way more entertaining than the show itself. I've never looked at a Precure doujin, true story.

You're going to have to PM some of these so we don't turn this place into an image dump of Precure.
 

yami4ct

Member
Hunter x Hunter 85



And BAM. There it is, the first true "wham" moment of the arc! I imagine people that haven't read the manga had the same reaction as the people that watched Attack on Titan episode 5 with no knowledge of the source.

The moment of hope and optimism quickly snatched away was PERFECTLY portrayed, right down to the audio and direction. Goddamn do Madhouse know what they're doing with this arc.

Man, tonight's the night for this one, isn't it? I've been waiting for/dreading this episode for a long time. I'm going to be an emotional wreck after this. I still remember when I read it in the manga. I couldn't even touch the next few chapters for days after I read it.

Needless to say, I think this is the most excellent, surprising, well crafted and emotional moment that Togashi has written in the series thus far. That's saying something, given how supremely well written HxH is.
 

Seraphis Cain

bad gameplay lol
Kuttsukiboshi 2

Wait, so Aaya's brother dies off screen... okay. And then Aaya proceeds to trap and rape her ex-girlfriend... Uh... I don't think that's “Making it up to her” Aaya. That's just making it worse! … And yet she enjoys it. GAAAAAAAAAAAAAH. This is sick and depraved. Can I even call this Stockholm Syndrome?

“Do you hate me for just that?” Um... I wouldn't call screwing your brother a “just that” kind of thing Aaya. It's kind of creepy. VERY CREEPY. And yet... Kawakami is okay with looking past that. Uh huh.

… Is it me or is Aaya kind of like an abusive boyfriend? … ON THE DAMN TRAIN? GODDAMIT AAYA. And it even shows the sleeping passengers, as if to mock me. GAAAAAAAAAAAH.

“I'm leaving Japan tomorrow.” Good riddance? So she wants to fuck like rabbits all night until she has to leave... I don't get why Kawakami is even letting her do this.

“I want to make love to you before I die.” OH JOY. She's entirely stupid for going along with this stupidity. I get your brother is about to die from a tumor, but there are things you SHOULD NOT DO.

SISCON. GODDAMIT.

“It'd be great if you would lock up before you leave.” Aaya REALLY treated that like a typical one-night stand.

… SHE CAN TELEPORT NOW? Oh that's just lovely. I suppose now they'll have a happily ever aft- Okay, she's using HER powers to be obsessive....

WHERE THE HELL ARE THEY? So now they're just going to screw for all eternity on a distant alien world? How... Why.... AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

Glad you liked it! :D
:looooooooool

Now watch BRS TV.
 

CorvoSol

Member
Shit, SAO has already given you brain damage.

Whatever do you mean? I think nothing but the highest of SAO.

Maybe not Utena and Anthy, but there's still plenty of incest. :p

I do applaud Nanami for the audacity to actually keep fighting Utena after the match was over. That was pretty cool.

Utena might actually be exactly what he needs to mend the scars left by SAO.

But SAO is special!


Also, 'cuz I been thinkin' too much 'bout Burton's avatar, has anyone noticed that, stripped of its orange, NuGAF has all the same colors as Wii Fit Trainer?
 

yami4ct

Member
Aku no Hana 12

Why do I suddenly feel like Kasuga is not being a completely spineless failure of a character with no redeeming qualities whatsoever? I find myself actually approving of some of the things he is doing. This feeling is alien and it scares me. I guess
making his decision and choosing Nakamura over Saeki
finally removed most of the horrible indecision and trying-to-be-two-different-things-at-once that was plaguing his character for most of the series.

It's still incredibly awkward that he's
telling Nakamura he's going to try to become a true pervert
when his actions are still those of
a decent guy with no real perverted tendencies whatsoever
. But you can see that he's acting from the heart now, and that's definitely an improvement from just running away from everything.

Have I mentioned I love this anime?

Having just blown through most of what's out of manga because I really, really am enjoying this story, this whole moment is super weird to me. From a character development standpoint, Kasuga's decision here makes zero damn sense. It was hardly built to I feel like. Him
ultimately choosing Nakamura, who has up to this point shown zero emotional or human quality
just feels super off. I feel like they could have rectified it by making Nakamura less of a force of nature and more human before they pulled anything like that. All that being said, where they go with it is absolutely amazing. It's totally worth it. At times, though, it makes it feel like an amazing story built on a faulty foundation. One wrong move by the author and it'll come crashing down. Luckily, it still manages to deliver.

Maybe I should get around to watching the anime version now. Despite the wonky rotoscoping stuff, it'd be nice to see this story get animated/voiced.
 
Mobile Suit Gundam 0083: Stardust Memory 1-5

Thought I'd continue on my quest through the UC until I get to, well, UC. I was going into this one with low expectations because I remember someone on GAF hatin' on it big time. I want to say it was Jex for some reason but I can't say that with any certainty. Anywhosit, I like stuff and I don't like stuff.

The Gundams look great and the fights are pretty cool. I feel like the battles involve a lot more, what's the word, maneuvering than what I'm used to in the series. Shit moves around a lot and it looks cool; that's what I'm trying to say. But as for the stuff I don't like, the characters aren't really all that great. Uraki's a pretty weak lead, and Nina's just... weird. She only got that way in the last episode I saw, where she got all bitchy for no apparent reason and then got super sad and sentimental after
Uraki got wrecked, which looked pretty cool by the way
, but I couldn't tell if she was more concerned for Uraki or the Gundam.

Right now I like the other girl more since she's pretty down to earth and kick ass. And Uraki's bro with the glasses is much more interesting a character than he is. But I forget his name. It sounded like Kiefer Sutherland so I'm going with that. He's forever Kiefer Sutherland. Also, the dub is kind of bad. I'd like to think I'm one of the more dub-liking peeps on AnimeGAF, but even I find this one kind of grating. Thorton's decent as the antagonist dude, but Uraki's VA flat out sucks, and Nina's makes lewd noises when she's trying to be emotional.

From what I've seen so far, I like Stardust Memory for the most part, I just hope the characters develop and become more likable. Probably wasn't the best idea to go from War in the Pocket to this, but it's enjoyable enough. Also, Nina Purpleton is a stupid fucking name.
 

Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
This was painful to read. I can only imagine what it was like to write it.

Incidentally I just watched Passion of the Christ for the first time so I'm on the other end of the spectrum of quality entertainment lol
I didn't know incestual tentacle rape and antisemetic torture porn were opposites.
 

CorvoSol

Member
Mobile Suit Gundam 0083: Stardust Memory 1-5

Thought I'd continue on my quest through the UC until I get to, well, UC. I was going into this one with low expectations because I remember someone on GAF hatin' on it big time. I want to say it was Jex for some reason but I can't say that with any certainty. Anywhosit, I like stuff and I don't like stuff.

The Gundams look great and the fights are pretty cool. I feel like the battles involve a lot more, what's the word, maneuvering than what I'm used to in the series. Shit moves around a lot and it looks cool; that's what I'm trying to say. But as for the stuff I don't like, the characters aren't really all that great. Uraki's a pretty weak lead, and Nina's just... weird. She only got that way in the last episode I saw, where she got all bitchy for no apparent reason and then got super sad and sentimental after
Uraki got wrecked, which looked pretty cool by the way
, but I couldn't tell if she was more concerned for Uraki or the Gundam.

Right now I like the other girl more since she's pretty down to earth and kick ass. And Uraki's bro with the glasses is much more interesting a character than he is. But I forget his name. It sounded like Kiefer Sutherland so I'm going with that. He's forever Kiefer Sutherland. Also, the dub is kind of bad. I'd like to think I'm one of the more dub-liking peeps on AnimeGAF, but even I find this one kind of grating. Thorton's decent as the antagonist dude, but Uraki's VA flat out sucks, and Nina's makes lewd noises when she's trying to be emotional.

From what I've seen so far, I like Stardust Memory for the most part, I just hope the characters develop and become more likable. Probably wasn't the best idea to go from War in the Pocket to this, but it's enjoyable enough. Also, Nina Purpleton is a stupid fucking name.

I actually think that Stardust Memory is the least offensive of the bad Gundam shows. That said, there is one turn at the end of the series that had me flabbergasted.

Also, Ensign Kou Uraki Doesn't Eat His Carrots.

Slayers TRY 13

Meh. I mean, Valgaav didn't even try to assault Filia sexually, Almayce's tentacles are good for nothing, Gourry wasn't dual wielding and nothing was in CG. Why would anyone watch this show? Maybe Zel and Amelia are related. I mean they have similarly shaped hair.
 

madp

The Light of El Cantare
Watching three different seasons of Precure at the same time has been an enlightening experience, to say the least. More and more I feel like Heartcatch was a "happy accident" and that, while there are some sporadic moments of brilliance, the franchise doesn't do nearly enough to justify putting up with so much mediocrity. Which is weird because I do not think Heartcatch was that mind-blowing in terms of scope, either, but that show managed to tap into a more innocent facet of my anime tastes that I thought had long disappeared.

I don't know if I'm explaining myself, but I don't care.

Nah, you're fine and I actually think that this is just about word for word what I've come to believe. Heartcatch was my first Precure and my first magical girl anime, and even then I originally only tried it because of Umakoshi since I adored Casshern Sins. I tried it with a lot of trepidation thanks to having a really distorted concept of what magical girl anime entailed thanks to the pedo-tastic genre parodies in a lot of otaku shows, but, like you, the innocent fun was a revelation for me--something that I'd completely forgotten that anime was capable of--and the color, optimism, energy, and guilt-free enjoyment was just the thing that I needed at a really really dark time in my life. I was severely mentally unstable when I marathoned Heartcatch, and I honestly credit it with getting me out of that; perhaps this is why I developed an attachment to the franchise that transcended the actual quality of what I was watching. It's probably the same reason that I watched all of Bleach even though I only really liked Soul Society at a formative time in my youth.

Looking back, though? I trust my own critical faculties enough to be able to say that, my bias for Heartcatch aside, it is an anomaly in a franchise that is, for the most part, perfunctory, unengaging to the adult mind, aesthetically horrifying, creatively and artistically bankrupt, and disgusting in how deeply the need to encourage empty consumerism in small children is woven into the very fabric of the material. All seasons have individual episodes that are good, but most of the reason for my recent meltdown over the remarks on the high incidence of Precure discussion in the thread is that I finally allowed myself to accept that, other than Heartcatch, none of the other seasons are enjoyable in their entirety, and so I've felt terrible regret for aggressively pimping it for so long. Even Smile, which I typically gushed over while it aired, seems not that great in retrospect. I don't really regret watching it all, but I'll never again encourage anyone else to. I'm being honest with myself so that I can be honest with other people, and I kind of hope that eventually "Precure" won't be the first thing that comes to others' minds in association with me.

You sound exactly like an MLP fan.

welp!

Yes, but how do you explain lesbians and girls turning into boys to a tween. :p

Because Japan is totally cool with that sort of thing!
 

yami4ct

Member
I actually think that Stardust Memory is the least offensive of the bad Gundam shows. That said, there is one turn at the end of the series that had me flabbergasted.

The only real problem I had with Stardust, if I'm remembering it right, is that it's really quite boring. The characters in particular just aren't interesting. It's really pretty though, so that makes up for it.

Come to think of it, my opinion of that is almost the same as it is of Char's Counterattack and Unicorn. Both have the same kinds of issues, but are redeemed by being gorgeous to look at. Unicorn at least has the pretty awesome Marida story going for it, though.
 

Branduil

Member
Attack on Titan 12


Yeah, they've complete screwed up this arc with the terrible pacing. The material itself is serviceable but not when it's stretched out like this- I have no idea what possessed them to adapt at a one-to-one chapter-to-episode rate.
 

Narag

Member
The only real problem I had with Stardust, if I'm remembering it right, is that it's really quite boring. The characters in particular just aren't interesting. It's really pretty though, so that makes up for it..

It's kinda aimless and meanders around before getting back to the whole impetus of the show. Also Kou is the worst Gundam protagonist whose defining moment is not eating his carrots.

Attack on Titan 12

Yeah, they've complete screwed up this arc with the terrible pacing. The material itself is serviceable but not when it's stretched out like this- I have no idea what possessed them to adapt at a one-to-one chapter-to-episode rate.


I don't feel so bad about falling behind now.
 

CorvoSol

Member
The only real problem I had with Stardust, if I'm remembering it right, is that it's really quite boring. The characters in particular just aren't interesting. It's really pretty though, so that makes up for it.

Come to think of it, my opinion of that is almost the same as it is of Char's Counterattack and Unicorn. Both have the same kinds of issues, but are redeemed by being gorgeous to look at. Unicorn at least has the pretty awesome Marida story going for it, though.

I'm only part way through Unicorn, but Marida's story is pretty great. That said, the problems I had with Stardust Memory are basically that it was really boring, Kou was a complete loser and
dropping a colony for the umpteenth time in a Gundam story is just a bad way to make a big deal in a Gundam series. Also the Nina x Gato relationship that came out of left field. Also Nina in general. And the idea of a nuclear weapon carrying Gundam in general.
 
Attack on Titan 12



Yeah, they've complete screwed up this arc with the terrible pacing. The material itself is serviceable but not when it's stretched out like this- I have no idea what possessed them to adapt at a one-to-one chapter-to-episode rate.

Wouldn't it best less than a chapter to make this terrible pacing or something considering it's a monthly series?
 

cnet128

Banned
Shingeki no Kyojin 12

Yep, this is Shingeki all right.

I dunno, I'm not really feeling all the pacing issues that people are constantly complaining about. It's a little slow, sure, but nowhere near the offensive levels of things like Naruto Shippuuden or the later One Piece anime arcs. It just feels very...deliberate. Like every moment has weight. There's a high ratio of talking (er, shouting) to action, but that's part of the style of the series and it would be strange to change it.

I guess the series would probably be improved if it moved a little faster, but it doesn't feel bad to me as it is, and I say that as someone who's read the manga and always knows exactly what's coming next. Maybe the pace doesn't bother me because I always know what's coming next? I dunno.
 

yami4ct

Member
I'm only part way through Unicorn, but Marida's story is pretty great. That said, the problems I had with Stardust Memory are basically that it was really boring, Kou was a complete loser and
dropping a colony for the umpteenth time in a Gundam story is just a bad way to make a big deal in a Gundam series. Also the Nina x Gato relationship that came out of left field. Also Nina in general. And the idea of a nuclear weapon carrying Gundam in general.

Story wise, Marida's stuff has been pretty much the only continual saving grace for Unicorn. The main Laplace Box plot is way over complicated, yet boils down to one fetch quest after another episode after episode. Banagher is also way too much of a meat and potatoes gundam hero. There's nothing to really separate him from your basic 0079 Amuro archetype and that makes him boring as hell. You then add Riddhe on top, who's become just a despicable human being, and his story hasn't been great either. The mobile armor girl from episode 3 had an interesting story, but it was way underdeveloped to matter. Hey, at least it has Sinsnju (Best gundam villain suit) and some of the prettiest animation around so it's rarely a boring watch overall.

As for Stardust, yep, that's exactly what I remember. And, hey, I kind of thought Nuke Gundam was sort of a cool idea. Poorly executed, but cool.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
I want to post that meme pic of Louis CK here. What the fuck, firehawk? How do you explain lesbians to a tween? By talking to them and saying some girls love other girls. Duh.
Think of the average American parent who thinks sex education shouldn't be taught at school and that fathers should make virginity pledges with their daughters when they turn 13. lol

Of course, in my mind, Japan is a billion times more conservative than conservative America, so that probably colours my response here. :p
 

CorvoSol

Member
Story wise, Marida's stuff has been pretty much the only continual saving grace for Unicorn. The main Laplace Box plot is way over complicated, yet boils down to one fetch quest after another episode after episode. Banagher is also way too much of a meat and potatoes gundam hero. There's nothing to really separate him from your basic 0079 Amuro archetype and that makes him boring as hell. You then add Riddhe on top, who's become just a despicable human being, and his story hasn't been great either. The mobile armor girl from episode 3 had an interesting story, but it was way underdeveloped to matter. Hey, at least it has Sinsnju (Best gundam villain suit) and some of the prettiest animation around so it's rarely a boring watch overall.

As for Stardust, yep, that's exactly what I remember. And, hey, I kind of thought Nuke Gundam was sort of a cool idea. Poorly executed, but cool.

I'll give you Banagher being meat 'n tatos, but I'm enjoying Audrey and Full Frontal so far, and also DAT THEME OF UNICORNS. I'm sort of odd when it comes to Gundam, though, I guess. I did not like 00 at all, and I consider Zeta to be inferior to ZZ.

And my problem with the nuclear Gundam, aside from it feeling entirely like Metal Gear Gundam, was just that I couldn't really see the need for it to be carrying a live nuclear weapon the day it got stolen.
 

SDBurton

World's #1 Cosmonaut Enthusiast
DokiDoki! Precure - 20

So
Regina finally comes to her senses only to be swept up by the selfish trio with Ange in tow.
Some good Mana x Regina moments in this episode, but it looks like the following episode will deliver.
 

yami4ct

Member
I'm sort of odd when it comes to Gundam, though, I guess. I did not like 00 at all,

Overall, that's not an uncommon opinion. You liked season 1 far less than the normal gundam audience, but I think with season 2 and the movie most would end up agreeing with you.



II consider Zeta to be inferior to ZZ.

Well, you are strange at this one. It's an impossible difference for us to reconcile. Heck, you may be completely alone is this opinion, haha. We all have our weird personal tastes.
 

Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
Think of the average American parent who thinks sex education shouldn't be taught at school and that fathers should make virginity pledges with their daughters when they turn 13. lol
They are the problem.

Of course, in my mind, Japan is a billion times more conservative than conservative America, so that probably colours my response here. :p
Which is why tentacle rape exists.
 
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