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Spring Anime 2013 l OT One l All roads lead to this
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Jex
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Hey, F.lux has been around for ages and there's no excuse not to be using it at all times! Unless you need to know what colour things actually are, of course.
I honestly have no idea either. Was it the whole MMORPG thing? It was pretty boring.
This surely is a sign
for me to finish Angel Beats!
Best show right here.
peaceiscloser
Member
I'm using F.lux right now, on top of dark GAF.
So perfect.
Also I apologize if my screens of School Days are a little sepia
Hahaha, every time I think I'm going to have someone to hang out with there it fails anyway. No worries.
Attack on Titan 12
Jex
Member
I think I can get behind this.
The harsh truth is that all 80s cartoons are horrible.
But they are a special, lovable kind of horrible from a simpler time.
wa-wa-wowwwwww
Jex
Member
Stardust Memory is the worst thing created by man. It makes SAO look like The Citizen Kane of Anime.
It's boring, but worse than SAO or even Gundam AGE for that matter? Nah, I cannot agree.
Psycho_Mantis
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There are worse entries into the Gundam series alone, and none of them are as bad as the second half of SAO.
Last I checked Nina Purpleton wasn't Kou Uraki's sister.
Mechs > transforming pink cars
But Eva's aren't mechs.
Do I want to start this semantics argument?
Yes, yes I do
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
So many Utena and Eva spoilers.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Maou-sama 12
Heh. Last week I hoped that Urushihara would get a moment of awesome, and he sure as hell did.
Also, loved the subtle humor in
.
I wonder where they're gonna go from here for the last episode, though. That really seemed like the final battle, and next episode doesn't look too action-y from the preview.
Of course, I'm hoping for a second season!
Heh. Last week I hoped that Urushihara would get a moment of awesome, and he sure as hell did.
SHORYUKEN!
Also, loved the subtle humor in
Maou pointing out that Emi's tits were showing, then in the next scene having a handprint on his face from her slapping him
I wonder where they're gonna go from here for the last episode, though. That really seemed like the final battle, and next episode doesn't look too action-y from the preview.
Of course, I'm hoping for a second season!
Pfft.
Mechs > transforming pink cars
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Imagine if Anno were in charge of Rebuild of Utena. CGI DUELISTS.
Eva is so soaked into anime culture that I don't think you can ever complain about spoiling the old series. It'd be like complaining about spoiling Final Fantasy VII.
Weak sauce.
Can't compare with mech that actually Zeus's hand.
Further proof Utena is superior, no one else does their car thang.
peaceiscloser
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Kiss Dum: Engage Planet 04:
awwwww yeah, we're getting into the mysticism bullshit now. Nothing says DEEP like constantly cutting to a female soldier fighting in her underwear.
How many times does Aiba have to reaffirm that he's the Necrodiver through various feats of Necrodivery before he actually is the Necrodiver?
awwwww yeah, we're getting into the mysticism bullshit now. Nothing says DEEP like constantly cutting to a female soldier fighting in her underwear.
How many times does Aiba have to reaffirm that he's the Necrodiver through various feats of Necrodivery before he actually is the Necrodiver?
They are referred to at one point as the Evangelion Android, though. And while Asimov makes a distinction between an Android and a Robot, the idea is similar enough to say that Shinji is still piloting a giant robot. Especially since after awhile the line between robots and
Gods
a demon and a God of Destruction
The Devil Gundam is something essentially alive and undoubtedly demonic.
is referred to as a God in the end of the series.
For this reason, in addition to "Any sufficiently advanced type of science is functionally indistinguishable from magic," and "Any sufficiently advanced alien species is functionally indistinguishable from Gods," might I propose "Any sufficiently powerful giant robots are functionally indistinguishable from
Gods
Any biomechanically produced Gods of an insufficient level of power, eg. non-God state Evangelions, are functionally indistinguishable from mechs.
GOMENASAI!!
Too late, Sempai is displeased.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
For the purposes of the role they play in the narrative, the EVAs are mecha.
Someone had to pander the gamer market at one point or another. And most of the stuff is so grossly awful (Stay Alive) that merely being awful makes it seem good. It probably gets a lot of points for being serious. That moe backlash has people clinging to whatever they can find.
Jex
Member
I haven't seen every work in the Gundam franchise (nor do I wish too) but Stardust Memory is hateful, appalling series.
Ooh, now i'm really excited to start watching it again. Let's see if it even comes close.
While you point out a lot of interesting thematic sensibilities most Super Robot style shows share, I still believe that there is a massive difference between something that has a biological base and a mech. Moreover, I think the Eva's seemingly will of their own separates them even farther from traditional mech. These are less piloted machines and more akin to horses whose destructive capabilities are guided by human riders toward the right targets. That unique will is a major piece of what differentiates the evas from mechs.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
You forgot DFC.
For the purpose of the narrative, they fill the mech roll, but that doesn't make them mech. I feel mech have to be purely piloted. They must purely respond to the will of the pilot and not be able to move and make their own decisions.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
That core looked pretty round to me!
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Muromi-san 12
Why do I feel like I just watched a softcore hentai?
Why do I feel like I just watched a softcore hentai?
Uniboob?
Ikuhara show how its done.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
This might be a question for Jex to answer, but surely there are examples of super robots who have acted on their own before?
Alien anatomy is weird.
KirbYuuYuu
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Ojamajo Doremi 15
Pop is suspicious, so she messes around in MahouDou. And has Majo Rika in her grasp.
We have mini SOS groupees and Pop has White Knights. In Kindergarten. Must be sexually active this early in this universe. At least it's in their own age range.
Apparently, Plush-chan dying was the most traumatic thing to the entire class though, either they're sheltered, or everyone has great lives (and Pop lives in a household filled with DOMESTIC VIOLENCE so lord knows.)
Pop is suspicious, so she messes around in MahouDou. And has Majo Rika in her grasp.
We have mini SOS groupees and Pop has White Knights. In Kindergarten. Must be sexually active this early in this universe. At least it's in their own age range.
Apparently, Plush-chan dying was the most traumatic thing to the entire class though, either they're sheltered, or everyone has great lives (and Pop lives in a household filled with DOMESTIC VIOLENCE so lord knows.)
Super robots moving on their own usually fall into one of a couple categories. Either they somehow tap into human emotion, and thus are still following the human pilot's orders, or they have some entity or AI controlling them. The second idea gets a bit more tricky as I'd say, semantically, that makes them fall more into the Robot or giant Android category rather than mech.
Not sure if Chet would approve here.
You need to watch more mecha show then.. Its not a invention made by EVA at all.
Would so silly if you playing SRW and say some legendary mech not a mech because doing what you described.
Tell that to the Devil Gundam. It has cells of its own, a fully functional mouth by the show's end, cells, and a parasitic reproductive system which enables it to essentially breed.
I'm not saying it isn't bad. I'm just saying Gundam still has shit like Destiny, AGE, and 00 that are so much worse than it that it seems tame by comparison.
It's a good analogy, but the EVA still function like mecha do, even if they are biological in nature. It's hardly uncommon for a mech to have its own will, too. Whether that be via artificial intelligence, like Full Metal Panic's AL/Arbalest/Laevatein, and Gargantia's Chamber (both of whom are fully capable of functioning without their pilot and performing combat operations autonomously), or something a little more supernatural, like the Nirvash Type ZERO from Eureka Seven (which actually addresses Renton by the show's end).
The only situation I can come up with that's directly comparable to the Evangelions would be Brain Powerd, and even then, Super Robot Wars just shrugs and considers them mechs, because they function exactly as a mech would. So even if they aren't actually mechs in the sense of a machine piloted by a human, they're functionally the same thing, since they work exactly as one would.
peaceiscloser
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- School Days 01
And so it begins.
....running into a train, eh? This reminds me of a certain imouto anime I just watched, *COUGH KOI KAZE*
Of course he has to gasp audibly when trying to be inconspicuous. That's anime at its finest.
Oh gosh they're friends. This is going to be a huge problem, isn't it. ISN'T IT AGHHH
Still trying to determine if our MC is hapless harem protag yet. -- backing a girl into a fence, huh well then
Sekai means world. Thank you for that. I think a Japanese person would know what "Sekai" means. Even I know what sekai means. (Maybe this is a Crunchyroll sub thing?)
We're just setting up for a horrifying love triangle now, aren't we
"A-a--ano... d-d-domo..."
Hapless MC protag. For sure. Never EVER tell a girl you're in love with another one, especially when she's obviously got the hots for you too. KNIVES TO THE HEART
Sekai, honey. Stop doing this to yourself. Please. Stop.
Shit. Right in the kisser. SHIT
I want to ask who best girl is.
I sorta hope its neither
Ultimadrago
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The .gifs previously posted made me think on it.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
There's no turning back now.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Yeah. Technically anything that uses energy to achieve a certain goal can be considered a machine but the more common meaning would be the use of mechanical power to complete goals.
This is a semantics argument, so I'd say that those other robots that have their own will like chambers are more akin to traditional robots or androids that happen to be pilotable rather than mechs.
As for your second point functioning as something and being that thing are two fundamentally different ideas I'd argue. Top Gear made cars that functioned as boats, yet the cars were still cars. They weren't boats. The eva style organic beings function at mechs, but at their core they're actually an idea that's pretty different.
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