I can't believe I forgot about this post, it's only 2 posts below mine, how embarrassing xD
that looks really nice, is the rest of the anime worth watching?
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Pizzaroll is banned, Rzel.
Watch it be another piece of concept art preceded by a bunch of hyper active text on-screen.
Come now, that's not nearly pessimistic enough.
You have to predict that it'll be a piece of concept art we've already seen preceded by a bunch of hyperactive text on screen.
Yes, please. Absolutely no new art would be the only disappointment for me... and it's sad because it could happen; it's not likely, but it's definitely not impossible.
So, so, so wrong. An now I'm craving one. Gonna have to stop at the market on the way home.
Yes, absolutely! probably best show this season, check the OT for more impressions.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=536160
My school had plenty of rainy days. Louisiana is a very wet state. Veeeeery wet.
Yes. she is.
Thats one big reason!
Mad P the best way to deal with all this is to just ignore people. There will always be haters and detractors who might not agree with your chosen lifestyle but know what? Who gives a shit about them? they arent living your life and they deal with things differently. they might like something else. so what? Let them be them and you only concern yourself with what makes you happy. Fuck what they think. Seriously.
Your avatar is magnificent and stands out Corvy Kun. youre our favorite raven!
I have several hobbies. I dont read much besides fact books and car magazines, but I like anime, listening to classic rock, reggae, and classical/orchestrated music, studying other cultures and sampling their cuisines, freshwater fishing, origami (not not the bitch from Date a Live the paper folding art), drawing, occasionally videogaming, collecting various things, car culture, nfl football (New Orleans Saints), studying severe weather patterns and tornadoes, and even trying out different kinds of tea at this point lol. And of course collecting cute things to surround myself with. That doesnt even count all my internet activity. I guess I keep rather busy.
Pretty much yeah. Fuck those people. With a spoon.
Only language I kind of know besides english is French/cajun french. Cant help knowing some from growing up in Louisiana forever.
This show will only get more interesting as time goes by. Hopefully you enjoy the twists and revelations because this show will surprise you. I think you will come to like Kyoko a lo once you find out her story.
You poor poor thing. *hugs corvy kun
Yea the stigmas of certain things here is really stupid and should stop but the culture involved will never allow it to. Just gotta ignore it and keep rolling. Thats the only way to deal with it. Its not worth acknowledging such hateful judgemental acts. Just associate with the people who care about what you care about and if you venture outside of the comfort zone, make sure you know what you are talking about. and if you dont know, then just be prepared for the good old avatar judgement. It is what it is.
Escaflowne will always stay in my heart. Lots of my friend love it and many of them moved on with life and I havent spoken to them in years but we had a lot of fun watching it together.Its one of those shows that has a lot of flaws but you really dont care because its just really special.
Backlog time! I blame TLoU.
Gargantia 12-
Yep someone called this twist and the show did properly foreshadow it. That said, my main issue with the series is that it's too diluted. The idea of different societies competing against one another was enough. Having organics vs. inorganics is too much as the series doesn't focus enough on it to be crucial driving point for the narrative. It is an earlier theme but instead of focusing on the differences in human societies, it feels like an unnecessary sidetour. If this series was longer, this could have led into an interesting second half focusing on the society in the Galactic Alliance. As it is, it feels rushed. They should have probably cut one of the fanservice episodes and focused on Chamber. That might have helped flesh out this 'third side'.
Gargantia 12-
Yep someone called this twist and the show did properly foreshadow it. That said, my main issue with the series is that it's too diluted. The idea of different societies competing against one another was enough. Having organics vs. inorganics is too much as the series doesn't focus enough on it to be crucial driving point for the narrative. It is an earlier theme but instead of focusing on the differences in human societies, it feels like an unnecessary sidetour. If this series was longer, this could have led into an interesting second half focusing on the society in the Galactic Alliance. As it is, it feels rushed. They should have probably cut one of the fanservice episodes and focused on Chamber. That might have helped flesh out this 'third side'.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
This came on my timeline today. Might as well share it here for the sakuga lovers.
Who needs CGI am i right?
Who needs CGI am i right?
Basileus777
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All of this show's attempts at social commentary and any sort of meaningful message have been a failure. Their hamfisted attempts at that ruined episode 11 so I'm glad they didn't focus on it here. They should just leave that stuff be, with one episode remaining there really isn't any room for it.
I kinda like the art direction, I'll get on it as soon as possible.
Chet Rippo
Member
Do you have a hand fetish?
Theonik
Member
Urobochi is writing the last episode. RIP
I should also mention that the shading and storyboarding ep.12 for Gargantia were pretty good.
Also I know it's bad form of me but I still kept watching that the mechas were 2D during that sequence.
I admittedly don't think the social commentary in the show hasn't been that great. That said, the way things are, the 'twist' feels unnecessary and a bit out of left field. Again I might be fine with it if the show ran for a longer time period so it could be discussed just a bit more.
RIP indeed for many characters. Watch Gargantia get blown up.
Also I know it's bad form of me but I still kept watching that the mechas were 2D during that sequence.
I admittedly don't think the social commentary in the show hasn't been that great. That said, the way things are, the 'twist' feels unnecessary and a bit out of left field. Again I might be fine with it if the show ran for a longer time period so it could be discussed just a bit more.
RIP indeed for many characters. Watch Gargantia get blown up.
nintendoman58
Member
Kyoko is best Magical Girl. You shall soon see why.
Pretty much yep.
K. Yoshinari > Y. Yoshinari
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Caught up on some AMVs earlier...holy shit, this was the last song I expected to see paired with Nichijou:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBj4eV3k8Co
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBj4eV3k8Co
Joe Molotov
Member
I hope in Star Wars: Episode VII, all the laser blast sound effects are George Lucas going "pew pew! pew pew!"
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Yeah that was awesome, holy shit.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Mad Pierrot, I read your post and value your feedback. I don't really disagree with anything you said and I have nothing to add. I'm glad my post before was able to give you some context and better understanding. I also like cooking.
Eden of the East 01: I picked up a prince
I was recommended this by Aeana after her and Mumei made fun of my list of can'ts and won'ts when it comes to taking anime recommendations. Since it is freely available for streaming and available dubbed and a short series, I am going to make a good faith effort to watch through it. I hope you won't mind if I share my impressions, noting that I definitely approach things from a different perspective than most here. This is the first TV anime episode I've watched in 3 or 4 years.
First and foremost I don't actually like per-episode recaps or criticism, but it's the style in here so I'll do that.
Dub vs Sub
First, I wanted to say why I'm choosing a dubbed version. I am a fluently bilingual person, English-French, and I live in a bilingual country. So I don't view myself as an ignorant "English is the only language on earth" kind of person. And I know French well enough to appreciate that every language has expressive strengths that other languages might lack. So I can appreciate that some Japanese works are probably best enjoyed in Japanese.
I am also aware that a lot of child-focused content that came to the US in the 90s was butchered (both for censorship purposes and just comprehension errors) in the dubbed versions. Finally, I understand that dubs often try to take the product out of its original cultural millieu and that for works set in the real world especially this is unfortunate.
However, I don't know enough about Japan that I'm going to catch that kind of stuff whether it's done through subtitles and editor's notes--which frankly seem to be more like a lesson and an info dump than an organic way of exposing people to something new--and I feel like, given that this is a professional dub, the quality and nuance in the acting is likely to be at least as good as what I'd pick up from hearing Japanese that I don't understand and reading subtitles.
Premise and Opening
The first episode starts with a mysterious voiceover and doesn't do much to establish the scene. The show is set in a sort of current day period. The opening credits have gibberish or decontextualized English over them ("noblesse oblige" "The King has come! With justice till the end" "To save us from the dark Who could ever doubt? We have faith", a rotating crest with "The Abuse of Greatness""). This makes me think it's about someone reluctantly taking a position of authority, assuming a heavy burden. The theme song is by Oasis.
Animation
The characters have a wide-eyed but generally well-proportioned style. Fashion seems to be normal. The backgrounds appear to be a mixed of hand drawn and computer graphics in a fairly realistic style. Visually this is appealing to me.
This however is not:
In some anime that I've seen characters have, uh, I don't know what to call it--when they have an emotional reaction, there's like unusual doodles. Like if they get angry, there's squiggly lines floating in the air. Or they blush in a very heavy way. Or their eyes get super screwed up. Floating teardrops. Etc. I'm sure you guys know it. It's incorporated here, sparingly, but I really don't like it as an animation flourish.
Although I like the designs and drawings, the animation is fairly cheap and seems to have relatively few frames. I think my expectations here are probably unfair coming from mostly having seen film anime which have a higher budget. I'd like to open up a random western pre-CG cartoon to see how the frame counts compare. Is there a name for styles that have fewer or more frames? How does this show compare to others?
Even the characters who are apparently white north Americans look Asian in terms of features. The sidewalks and buildings, by comparison, feel very American.
What Happens in the Episode
We open in Washington DC. A young girl is visiting, but is disappointed that everything is not as amazing as in the brochure. Across the street, we see a naked man. Both appear to be Asian. Cut to a man in a car saying that although "Subject 9"--an experiment? A test?--is confounding expectations, it ends now. The naked man is holding a cell phone and a gun. He snaps back out of it and is confused. So we have an amnesia situation. His phone says noblesse oblige--which is basically an expression meaning that nobility carries with it responsibility. The naked man waves at the girl but realizes he probably looks like a weirdo, nude and with a gun. The girl is very uncomfortable because she can see the guy's dong. She gives him some clothing. He runs away in a girl's coat.
The previously naked man looks through the phone he has but finds nothing. He calls his "concierge", but doesn't know who she is. She tips us off that there is memory erasing tech and that he doesn't have a new identity. He's given a location on a map.
The girl realizes her passport was in her coat pocket. Well, that's what you get for giving your clothes to naked strangers, lady. She runs down the road and finds him, after seeing another stranger give him some pants. Chase scene ensues as the man seeks the map location and the girl tries to pursue him. The map location is a very run down building. The man runs into someone in the building and says "My place is on the second floor right?" the stranger says "3B" and exits the building. Then the girl asks the stranger where his apartment is, and the stranger says "3B". Maybe that stretches credulity a bit.
The apartment is a dump but it has a map with some photos. It also has tools which look like bomb or weapon parts, and a massive cache of guns ammo and some passports. So it's pretty clear this guy is some sort of programmable memory-wiped secret agent. He thinks he's a terrorist. *pause* When I think Japan and terrorism, obviously I think the Aum Shinrikyo sarin gas attack. So that's the cultural context I have, that I would bring to the table at this point. I have no idea why someone with no memory would assume that guns and passports mean terrorist rather than spy. I know Japan doesn't have a formal military, I know the Japanese constitution pretty well, but why would the assumption be terrorist?
The girl arrives at the apartment and asks for her passport back. The girl's name is Saki Morimi, born 1989. The date of issue is 2010, so the show is probably set 2010-2011. The guy compares her real Japanese passport to one of his fakes. His name is Akira Takizawa on that passport. He puts the rest of his fake passports in the toaster???
Police arrive at the apartment, suspicious of the naked man and the girl who was at the White House. Akira tries to sneak past the police with Saki, pretending that they are a couple. When the officer confronts him with a picture of him nude, he jokingly drops his pants, showing that he has nothing to hide. This apparently works, and the officer lets them go. I did laugh at Saki going kind of catatonic when he dropped his pants. We see the toaster in the apartment burn the passports.
Akira asks Saki when she's going to Japan. She says today. He says "OK let's go back together". She says she needs her bag which she left near the White House--wait, she doesn't say "Err, no, you pervert, I'm not going with you???". They take a cab together to the police, although we don't know why. We cut to the airport, where we learn they filed a police report for the stolen bags and the Japanese embassy replaced their tickets. We learn this through a weird exposition dump, very cheap.
Finally Saki asks Akira why he was nude at the white house, and he jokingly says he's a terrorist but then says it's an exchange student prank. Saki says she graduated college and was touring NY and only came to DC to see the White House. She thinks it's the center of the world. I know that feeling. I like that Saki has a sort of naive but determined geopolitics that she's describing here. She expresses that Japan is paralyzed politically, unable to help itself. I hope the series proceeds in an explicitly political direction.
We learn Akira was "born" the day after Saki. It's been a strange day. Saki wonders "Could he be the prince I'm looking for?"
BREAKING NEWS: MISSILES HIT TOKYO
Closing credits
Japanese, subtitled in nonsense fate destiny what will be our future nonsense English. Cool sort of paper cutout stop-motion style showing the missile attacks. This was a really cool animation, I wish it didn't have credits over it. I like different styles of animation for sure.
My thoughts
So, I watch a lot of TV and especially a lot of pilots. By definition a pilot needs to tell us what the show is about and set up a degree of intrigue for future episodes. I think this did that. Maybe a little too much time was spent on Akira getting to his apartment and Saki chasing him, I'd have liked to see more time really constructing the world that these characters live in, but the last 3 minutes were great and I am really excited to see the show's arc.
Eden of the East 01: I picked up a prince
I was recommended this by Aeana after her and Mumei made fun of my list of can'ts and won'ts when it comes to taking anime recommendations. Since it is freely available for streaming and available dubbed and a short series, I am going to make a good faith effort to watch through it. I hope you won't mind if I share my impressions, noting that I definitely approach things from a different perspective than most here. This is the first TV anime episode I've watched in 3 or 4 years.
First and foremost I don't actually like per-episode recaps or criticism, but it's the style in here so I'll do that.
Dub vs Sub
First, I wanted to say why I'm choosing a dubbed version. I am a fluently bilingual person, English-French, and I live in a bilingual country. So I don't view myself as an ignorant "English is the only language on earth" kind of person. And I know French well enough to appreciate that every language has expressive strengths that other languages might lack. So I can appreciate that some Japanese works are probably best enjoyed in Japanese.
I am also aware that a lot of child-focused content that came to the US in the 90s was butchered (both for censorship purposes and just comprehension errors) in the dubbed versions. Finally, I understand that dubs often try to take the product out of its original cultural millieu and that for works set in the real world especially this is unfortunate.
However, I don't know enough about Japan that I'm going to catch that kind of stuff whether it's done through subtitles and editor's notes--which frankly seem to be more like a lesson and an info dump than an organic way of exposing people to something new--and I feel like, given that this is a professional dub, the quality and nuance in the acting is likely to be at least as good as what I'd pick up from hearing Japanese that I don't understand and reading subtitles.
Premise and Opening
The first episode starts with a mysterious voiceover and doesn't do much to establish the scene. The show is set in a sort of current day period. The opening credits have gibberish or decontextualized English over them ("noblesse oblige" "The King has come! With justice till the end" "To save us from the dark Who could ever doubt? We have faith", a rotating crest with "The Abuse of Greatness""). This makes me think it's about someone reluctantly taking a position of authority, assuming a heavy burden. The theme song is by Oasis.
Animation
The characters have a wide-eyed but generally well-proportioned style. Fashion seems to be normal. The backgrounds appear to be a mixed of hand drawn and computer graphics in a fairly realistic style. Visually this is appealing to me.
This however is not:
In some anime that I've seen characters have, uh, I don't know what to call it--when they have an emotional reaction, there's like unusual doodles. Like if they get angry, there's squiggly lines floating in the air. Or they blush in a very heavy way. Or their eyes get super screwed up. Floating teardrops. Etc. I'm sure you guys know it. It's incorporated here, sparingly, but I really don't like it as an animation flourish.
Although I like the designs and drawings, the animation is fairly cheap and seems to have relatively few frames. I think my expectations here are probably unfair coming from mostly having seen film anime which have a higher budget. I'd like to open up a random western pre-CG cartoon to see how the frame counts compare. Is there a name for styles that have fewer or more frames? How does this show compare to others?
Even the characters who are apparently white north Americans look Asian in terms of features. The sidewalks and buildings, by comparison, feel very American.
What Happens in the Episode
We open in Washington DC. A young girl is visiting, but is disappointed that everything is not as amazing as in the brochure. Across the street, we see a naked man. Both appear to be Asian. Cut to a man in a car saying that although "Subject 9"--an experiment? A test?--is confounding expectations, it ends now. The naked man is holding a cell phone and a gun. He snaps back out of it and is confused. So we have an amnesia situation. His phone says noblesse oblige--which is basically an expression meaning that nobility carries with it responsibility. The naked man waves at the girl but realizes he probably looks like a weirdo, nude and with a gun. The girl is very uncomfortable because she can see the guy's dong. She gives him some clothing. He runs away in a girl's coat.
The previously naked man looks through the phone he has but finds nothing. He calls his "concierge", but doesn't know who she is. She tips us off that there is memory erasing tech and that he doesn't have a new identity. He's given a location on a map.
The girl realizes her passport was in her coat pocket. Well, that's what you get for giving your clothes to naked strangers, lady. She runs down the road and finds him, after seeing another stranger give him some pants. Chase scene ensues as the man seeks the map location and the girl tries to pursue him. The map location is a very run down building. The man runs into someone in the building and says "My place is on the second floor right?" the stranger says "3B" and exits the building. Then the girl asks the stranger where his apartment is, and the stranger says "3B". Maybe that stretches credulity a bit.
The apartment is a dump but it has a map with some photos. It also has tools which look like bomb or weapon parts, and a massive cache of guns ammo and some passports. So it's pretty clear this guy is some sort of programmable memory-wiped secret agent. He thinks he's a terrorist. *pause* When I think Japan and terrorism, obviously I think the Aum Shinrikyo sarin gas attack. So that's the cultural context I have, that I would bring to the table at this point. I have no idea why someone with no memory would assume that guns and passports mean terrorist rather than spy. I know Japan doesn't have a formal military, I know the Japanese constitution pretty well, but why would the assumption be terrorist?
The girl arrives at the apartment and asks for her passport back. The girl's name is Saki Morimi, born 1989. The date of issue is 2010, so the show is probably set 2010-2011. The guy compares her real Japanese passport to one of his fakes. His name is Akira Takizawa on that passport. He puts the rest of his fake passports in the toaster???
Police arrive at the apartment, suspicious of the naked man and the girl who was at the White House. Akira tries to sneak past the police with Saki, pretending that they are a couple. When the officer confronts him with a picture of him nude, he jokingly drops his pants, showing that he has nothing to hide. This apparently works, and the officer lets them go. I did laugh at Saki going kind of catatonic when he dropped his pants. We see the toaster in the apartment burn the passports.
Akira asks Saki when she's going to Japan. She says today. He says "OK let's go back together". She says she needs her bag which she left near the White House--wait, she doesn't say "Err, no, you pervert, I'm not going with you???". They take a cab together to the police, although we don't know why. We cut to the airport, where we learn they filed a police report for the stolen bags and the Japanese embassy replaced their tickets. We learn this through a weird exposition dump, very cheap.
Finally Saki asks Akira why he was nude at the white house, and he jokingly says he's a terrorist but then says it's an exchange student prank. Saki says she graduated college and was touring NY and only came to DC to see the White House. She thinks it's the center of the world. I know that feeling. I like that Saki has a sort of naive but determined geopolitics that she's describing here. She expresses that Japan is paralyzed politically, unable to help itself. I hope the series proceeds in an explicitly political direction.
We learn Akira was "born" the day after Saki. It's been a strange day. Saki wonders "Could he be the prince I'm looking for?"
BREAKING NEWS: MISSILES HIT TOKYO
Closing credits
Japanese, subtitled in nonsense fate destiny what will be our future nonsense English. Cool sort of paper cutout stop-motion style showing the missile attacks. This was a really cool animation, I wish it didn't have credits over it. I like different styles of animation for sure.
My thoughts
So, I watch a lot of TV and especially a lot of pilots. By definition a pilot needs to tell us what the show is about and set up a degree of intrigue for future episodes. I think this did that. Maybe a little too much time was spent on Akira getting to his apartment and Saki chasing him, I'd have liked to see more time really constructing the world that these characters live in, but the last 3 minutes were great and I am really excited to see the show's arc.
Jex
Member
I remember when we used to 'joke' about Miyazaki going senile.
It's not funny anymore.
nintendoman58
Member
Hellsing321
Member
Cats and dogs living together!
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Sure, you start with Eden of the East and it's cool and stuff. Next thing you know you'll be knee-deep watching Max Heart.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
I just Googled this: "This is a list of episodes for the Toei Animation anime television series, Futari wa Pretty Cure Max Heart, a direct sequel to Futari wa Pretty Cure. in 2006, it was replaced by Futari wa Pretty Cure Splash Star."
If me watching that happens, you get my admin job and the contents of my bank account.
Dedication Through Light
Member
Reminds me that I need to rewatch Eden of the East on BD. Would be interesting to see how it is at a resolution higher than 360...
Jex
Member
But I'm so lazy, why would I do that?
@Stump: It is refreshing and weird to see someone so removed from anime culture review a show like Eden of the East.
It really underscores how deep down the rabbit hole this thread is.
http://www.youtube.com/user/cookingwithdog
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9YbEqkxd5Y
It really underscores how deep down the rabbit hole this thread is.
RIP in peace animegaf
http://www.youtube.com/user/cookingwithdog
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9YbEqkxd5Y
Crash Station
Member
So Risette is gone for good? That's too bad 
Basileus777
Member
If only Eden of the East didn't suffer from terrible writing.
Crash Station
Member
Welcome (for now) to the community, Stump! Try not to lose your sanity.
I think it's an amazing premise and world that ends up being ruined by a main plot that makes zero sense and a set of characters who's actions are at times incomprehensible.
Maybe the show will click with Stump, though.
Ultimadrago
Member
Sweet.
Ah, I've been slightly curious about this show for a while. If I recall correctly from past posts, it has some unfortunate slips with how it handles science fiction. But I'm looking forward to more of your impressions! And on the format, you did swell! As stated previously, it's refreshing to have someone share their likes and dislikes of certain anime patterns without being overly simplistic or annoyingly arrogant.
The first thing that you need to know about AnimeGAF: sometimes we watch anime because it's bad, just to see how bad it can get. For some of us, Max Heart was unquestionably the worst we'd ever seen.
Just to give you an idea, not even taking the various narrative elements into account, it was probably farmed out to rural North Korea:
The less emphasis on precure non-stop in this thread, the better
nintendoman58
Member
Huh, stump watching Eden of the East. Unexpected. But welcome to the community!
I wonder how he'd react to Madoka Magica...
I wonder how he'd react to Madoka Magica...
Watching it right now, I say it hits a crapton of the major points that he said he didn't want from a show. So, I think he'd hate it.
R_thanatos
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